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[quote name='Kevin Kingswell' timestamp='1320729055' post='2841502']
OOC: Hope you don't mind me posting, if you do ignore this post.
Watching the skies Kassandra Kamarov followed the Midwest Republic jets as they came in and dropped their payload. She could quite clearly see the black shapes of the bombs falling downwards before they detonated in a shower of paint coating the ground and surronding landscape. A smirk crossed her face, the long scar pulling her left side upwards giving it quite the malicious grin. Well that was one less problem to worry about.
Still there was the distance between her current position, prone underneath a burned out and collasped apartment block, and the muesum nearby. Of course there was two routes avaliable a quick run through open terrain with only the odd burned out husk of an automobile for cover or a slower route through a number of houses and other buildings and then there was always the possiblity of the ground or walls collasping around her.
Pulling her short barreled AK47 to her chest she turned her head from left to right taking in all the details, then satisifed the way was clear for now she crawled forwards until she could stand before setting off at a quick pace into the ruins of the nearby buildings. Sure it would be slower but it also gave her the best cover against prying eyes.
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The MRAF aircraft's thermal sensors picked her up, and they proceeded to drop several bombs on her as well. The decaying buildings shuddered from the paint explosions and dust fell from the ceilings and walls but she was relatively safe. -
About two hours later:
As the scavenger neared the museum, there were whistles and roars of jet engines echoing through the air.
The practice bombing run had started.
One missile locked onto the scavenger and when it was only 5 meters above his head, it exploded.
Then the explosion splattered a cloud of paint in a 10 meters radius. The scavenger was frightened and proceeded to try and run back out of the giant bombing practice field. He would be hit with at least a few dozens of paint missiles and bombs on his way out.
Luckily for him and future scavengers, the high air force command decided that dropping live munitions for accuracy practicing/testing was a waste of money and that cheaper munitions should be used. Since bombs loaded with expired paint (and possibly leaded paint as well) were extremely cheap compared to explosive ones, why not buy dozens of thousands of them in a bulk? -
As the jeeps came to a stop, one of the drivers mumbled something about forgetting handcuffs...
[i]"WHAT?!"[/i] the squad leader screamed loud enough for the adventurers to hear it clearly about 50 meters away.
One of the jeeps turned around to get the handcuffs while the other two parked close to the group. The helicopter didn't even get to take off when the pilot was told to cancel the assistance.
Elsewhere, only less than 200 meters away, another scavenger hopped the fence as the commotion diverted the poorly funded security force's' attention. The only problem is that he was even less prepared than the other adventurers, no maps, water or any other equipments, and it doesn't help the fact that his plan was to drive one of the museum's tanks out of New City. Something that would surely catch some attention assuming he doesn't get accidentially bombed first.
The military assumed that only at most one person would barge in per month and funded the security team accordingly. The poor security force was going to be overrun by trespassers after trespassers. -
Radio communications:
[i]"Large group of trespassers spotted at Sector 5's, they have scaled the security fence. They appear to be moving on foot."
"Dispatch the jeeps and get moving fast. A helicopter will also be sent to help stop the trespassers. Next bombing practice starts in about two hours from now and you know how much they hate delays."
"Understood."[/i]
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As three jeeps closed onto the group of adventurers, one of their megaphones barked; "Hey! You are to stop and put your hands up immediately! You have trespassed on Midwest Republic Restricted Access Zone and will be prosecuted for it! Do not force us to chase you or lethal firearms will be used!!" -
[quote name='Generalissimo' timestamp='1320470689' post='2839409']
I’m at the end of my night so I’ll have my post tomorrow.This thread should open to anyone’s adventurers but HHAYD reserves the right to kill every would-be-relic-hunter with extreme prejudice in a single uncontested post.
Death is often an unavoidable side effect of ignoring warning signs and walking into a bombing range.
Is someone;s weight in gold (or cash) - no questions asked - really worth that sort of risk?
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It won't be instant-bombing, sorry for exaggerating it.
The question is, can you get in and get out before the next scheduled bombing takes place while avoiding too much attention? Get too greedy and try to run with too many artifacts loaded up, oh look, there's something to target.
The museum won't be targeted until next week. You can either go in now or wait until the building gets scorched. Though if you drive a tank out of the museum (and there are some in there), better move fast. -
[quote name='Generalissimo' timestamp='1320355602' post='2837938']
Right now, if necessary. You don’t even need me to start.
Just remember that the [i]Procinctia National Museum[/i] will pay your weight in gold for the good stuff.
For anything invaluably unique the [i]Procinctia National Museum[/i] will pay your weight in cash - no questions asked.
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Here it is: http://forums.cybernations.net/index.php?showtopic=106436 -
New City, (OOC: located on RL location of St Ignace OOC: ):
As rain poured heavily, loud whistles echoed through the piles of rubble, crumbling buildings and tall wild vegetation. Then, bright flashes, shortly followed by large clouds of dusts and smoke. A building was set on fire and would burn for quite a while before the rain puts it out.
The city was the capital of the now-defunct Great Lakes States and is currently more than 70 years old. It had a population of 500,000, large amount of glass-steel buildings and green spaces in the outskirts and glass-concrete buildings in the much denser center area. Most of the national government buildings were clustered in a two square miles area, including the large glass dome of the GLS Memorial Museum, the location of the original Legislative building. Inside the museum contained 50+ year old military equipments and vehicles that were used in the first civil war. Next to the museum was a massive cemetery that sheltered all of GLS's dead soldiers marked with polished black granite headstones.
However, the city crumbled and fell into disrepair as GLS buckled from constant onslaught of internal instability. The last of the residents left shortly before Michigan joined the USA. Surprisingly many Midwestern archeologists and historians didn't care about the city and raised little voice regarding the preservation of it.
Today? The Midwest Republic Air Force was paying it's respect...
By using it as their live practice/test bombing field. The MRAF saw New City as a great site for their pilots' practices and weapon testing since no structures needed to be constructed, which would save a little over $100,000 per year, much more if bombing practices and weapon tests were intensified. It was estimated that the city would last about another ten to fifteen years before MRAF is forced to build a new site for their weapon testing, the bombing practice could last for about another fifteen to twenty-five years before the city needs a minor "reconstruction".
The occasional trespassers were arrested on sight, but a small handful of them made it through. However, some of them were unlucky enough to be caught in a scheduled bombing run. Others caused too much commotion such as lighting up dozens of fireworks and being a general nuisance, which resulted in an somewhat "scheduled" bombing run on the area. The Midwest Republic military had a mentality of, "Only idiots run through a clearly marked death zone."
Today the cemetery received a dose of an experimental thermobaric deep bunker buster, which uplifted and destroyed dozens of coffins and headstones. Elsewhere, a bird nest located in the one of the city's parks' trees was hit by a laser/GPS guided bomb and such explosion reduced half of the one square mile park into a crater, the other half was engulfed in flames or completely coated with dust.
Next week, an experimental high-tech incendiary missile was to be dropped on the museum to test the missiles' effectiveness against infantry camping inside buildings without excessively damaging the buildings. The only issue is that most prototype weapons tend to inflict overkill on the targets, and the incendiary missile would be no exception. -
[quote name='Generalissimo' timestamp='1320205597' post='2836928']
We need an adventure, a journey through the Midwest Republic’s bombing site to a derelict museum to rescue artifacts - all whilst being bombed.
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When do you think we can start RPing?
[quote name='Generalissimo' timestamp='1320205597' post='2836928']
You have some of the craziest designs>? Like the aluminum tank!
Are you sure there’s no way to get any of that stuff, Procinctia will pay top Peso to get that salvaged from the bottom of the Great Lakes.
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You'll find at least one vehicle/equipment (that was still in service or in prototype stage by the time the mass-dumping started) listed in this GLP factbook: http://forums.cybernations.net/index.php?showtopic=86812&st=0&p=2322544&#entry2322544
I also forgot to mention the four Bay class battleships and Ontario class stealth submarines. All of them are at the bottom of the southern part of the Hudson Bay, in pieces. Two of the battleships' nuclear reactors exploded shortly before being sent to the bottom, irradiating them.
Salvageable, sure. The tough part is finding them since most of them are partially buried by the mud (except for the slightly radioactive battleship pieces). -
There's a museum in the defunct Great Lakes States' abandoned capital, New City (located on the RL location of St Ignace), containing some of their military's equipments that were used in their civil wars. I'm pretty sure the artifacts are at least 50 years old according to the 1 RL month=1 RP year.
And when I mean "abandoned", it's been used by Midwest Republic Air Force as a practice live bombing site. That includes the museum. And no, the Midwest Republic's government won't stop it because it's cheaper to bomb a ruin than to build a new bombing site.
There's also Great Lakes Provinces' military stuff, surprisingly some of them are still intact as most of them were destroyed. The problem is that they're sitting on the bottom of the Great Lakes. -
[quote name='Triyun' timestamp='1319923407' post='2834692']
Just as a note (and example of poor technology usage and foolishness) HHAYD is case in point here. He's talking about unescorted bombers going over a city. If somebody has a supposedly godly bomber, and they're physically flying over the target rather than firing stand off munitions from outside enemy SAM ranges, nine times out of ten they're being pretty dumb. [b]Also having a stealth fighter escorting a big ass radar cross section bomber is being pretty dumb. [/b]
The easiest solution here is common sense. Simply don't make something that is way way out there.
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Having escorts would help if the enemy can and will scramble fighter jets and if the escorts can also take out the SAMs. I recall a year or two ago somebody tried to spam unescorted paradrop aircraft against my air base, without softening up the anti-aircraft defenses or destroying the fighter jets. -
[quote name='TheShammySocialist' timestamp='1319913401' post='2834581']
Triyun could sell his F-1s or F-2s to an ally, but if that ally does not correctly use that technology in a tactical environment, taking care to actually utilize that technology correctly, they could be squandering the advantage they have by making ill-informed tactical decisions.
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Agreed.
For example, ordering unescorted bombers and paradrop aircraft to attack heavily defended military bases and cities. Or throwing thousands of unescorted landing ships at a heavily defended harbor that also has four battleships parking in it.
No amount of tech superiority would cover up such massive blunders. -
[quote name='Generalissimo' timestamp='1319863849' post='2834252']
In CNRP the man with the most detailed schematics often wins by default.
Is Technology in CNRP becoming too complicated?
Why not streamline everything!
Are arguments about technology disrupting battlefield narrative in CNRP?
To avoid arguments about technology detailed technology descriptions should not be mandatory.
If a country has X technology their fighter jet performs at a level of X technology – details not necessary.
Maybe relative performance based on technology levels?
100 tech < 1,000 tech < 10,000 tech < 100,000 tech
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We already have the tech scale.
You also have to consider that some RPers like to customize their military, for example, designing tanks to be geared toward urban combat and anti-air. -
[quote name='Mogar' timestamp='1319843721' post='2834076']
thats why i figure perhaps a retired CNRPer, I definitely agree anyone making rulings on technology needs to prove their qualifications to actually make a ruling that is set in reality, I dont believe someone with an art major would have any clue on the mechanics of aircraft.
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Almost all retired CNRPers have retired from CN as well, or are tired up with CN politics. -
[quote name='TheShammySocialist' timestamp='1319832862' post='2833877']
After reading this last line of conversation going on in this court, I might have a suggestion that could be beneficial.
Since I've been part of CNRP, I've seen the level of arguing about technology continue to increase at a exponential rate, and rulings involving technology have become more and more prevalent. This has basically split the job of GM into two actual categories; enforcing the rules, style, doing spy rolls, et cetera in terms of making sure everyone is roleplaying [i]correctly[/i] with the parameters that have been laid out, and enforcing rulings on technology.
Something I would like to throw out there for discussion, is the possibility of splitting GMs into two different categories; a set of technology GMs, and the other making more generalized rulings. In all honesty, I think that the roles of the GMs are two specifically distinct jobs; enforcing general rules, and making rulings on technology. Having two groups of GMs that are focused in one certain "area", [b]would increase effectiveness, and spread out authority, as well evenly spreading out the workload.[/b]
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This. I don't see how our current GM system will work under the current workload and the ever increasing tech-complaint workload. Slapping more GMs into a single court would only increase the time that it takes to get something done.
[quote name='Mogar' timestamp='1319843314' post='2834074']
I'd support the GMs not being RPers, perhaps retired RPers or something, then accusations of bias couldn't really be thrown around, since they wouldn't have a stake in a ruling.
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The main issue is, what if the GMs don't understand CNRP because they haven't been involved with it and makes unpopular rulings due to misunderstanding? -
Midwest Republic - HHAYD
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Midwest Republic News:
Two bills have been passed with overwhelming majority. "The Neutrality Act of 2039" and "The Cash and Carry Act of 2039".
The first act announced that Midwest Republic will not join the war unless provoked. The second act allowed its businesses to sell supplies and equipments to combatant countries but all payments must be in cash, not credit. The combatant countries are responsible for transporting their purchases and Midwest Republic will not provide protection of the shipments from other countries' attacks.
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OOC: Reformatting my computer, won't be able to reply for a few hours. -
[quote name='Centurius' timestamp='1318273769' post='2822369']
Putting my own stats out here:
Army:
Regular ground forces: 1,211,700
Reserves and conscripts: 7,449,410
[b]Tanks: 86,611[/b]
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Do tanks also fall under the conscription multiplier? -
Classified:
[quote]To: Republic of Noveria
From: President Cornwell of Midwest Republic
We can ship supplies, equipments, vehicles and infantry to you through your protectorate. Do be warned that the public is generally pacifist and that would handicap our ability to help you, but many of our businesses would be more than happy to sell needed war goods.[/quote] -
Midwest Republic News:
The average price per oil barrel increased from $81.05 to $93.89 and is expected to continue to rise as the St. Lawrence River remain closed. Oil isn't the only one being affected, every imported raw materials are also affected. The economy is expected to enter a recession until the trade traffic over land picks up.
The Legislative narrowly passed an economical sanction on Empire of Pravus Ingruo by 67 to 33 but President Cornwell vetoed it. The Legislative is expected to override the veto.
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Classified:
Pravus Ingruo would notice a small buildup of forces along the southern Indiana-Ohio border and a seemly much larger buildup along the northern part of the border. A large reserve force was also positioned behind the northern buildup as well.
Along the border of PI's Missouri protectorate, a seemly large military force was also being built up with additional seemly large reserve forces positioned about 30 miles east.
In the Lawrence Naval Air base, beach-landing practices continued and naval exercises in the Gulf of St. Lawrence started.
PI would have to play a guessing game, which area would Midwest Republic attack, their eastern coastline, Missouri, Ohio, or all of them at the same time? -
Midwest Republic News:
Protests had resurfaced again after the anti-government/drafting protests died down only a few weeks ago. This time the protesters, in smaller numbers, are expressing their outrage against Pravus Ingruo's closing of the St. Lawrence River's access to them. Numerous businesses also expressed their dissatisfaction and lobbyists are pressuring the Legislative to do something about it.
President Cornwell had not yet commented on Pravus Ingruo's announcement.
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Classified:
[quote]From: President Cornwell of Midwest Republic
To: Pravus Ingruo
I wish to know your reason for closing the St. Lawrence River to us.[/quote] -
This idea has been brought up many times before, and was consistently shot down. Many RPers dislike the idea of idea of RPing something that occurred outside of their control (except for wars or other diplomatic stuff).
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[quote name='Kzoppistan' timestamp='1318908293' post='2827565']
Run.
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No, I'm going to stand here like an idiot with no nukes, navy (except for one landing ship), air force, tanks and just enough soldiers to prevent anarchy. Oh, and don't forget the small amount of war wonders. I'm the worst prepared active member in TPF. -
[quote name='Letum' timestamp='1318823187' post='2826817']
This is a clear CB.
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[quote name='Mergerberger II' timestamp='1318823701' post='2826835']
Agreed 100%
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[quote name='Gopherbashi' timestamp='1318823919' post='2826842']
Roll him now.
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[quote name='Wilhelm the Demented' timestamp='1318829275' post='2826942']
Godspeed to his destroyers.
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And what about people who hate Star Wars?
[size="1"]like me?...[/size] -
Classified:
[quote]To: Republic of Noveria
From: President Cornwell of Midwest Republic
We asked Pravus Ingruo if Dobbs Doctrine was still active, this was what they replied:
[quote]The Dobbs Doctrine is not a document that covers attacks on American soil. Former President Dobbs held the ideal that America should be for Americans, and would defend any American nation from attack by a foreign power. However, this ideal is certainly not achievable in the current global, interconnected world that we live in. The Dobbs Doctrine is still alive and well, but it is not whatever mutation of it that you think it is.[/quote]
Currently we're in a staring contest with them. They have a large operational navy, ours is still mostly mothballed. We have a significantly larger and more advanced army and air force. They have numerous static defenses, the Appalachian Mountains, and control of the St. Lawrence River. We have a pacifist public that doesn't want us to go to war, they have full public support. I fear they may attempt to delay us as long as possible to stop us from attacking PI's master, UFE.
We will send a total of 30 tanks, 5 mobile anti-aircraft vehicles, 200 heavy transport trucks, 60 other vehicles, 2,000 infantry, 50 artillery guns, and six shiploads of supplies before the brief staring contest turns bloody and after you tell us where to drop off our assistance. Maybe more if they wait longer than expected. Expect it as our only assistance until we capture St. Lawrence River and neutralize their navy.
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Lawrence Naval Air Base:
Ten cargo ships that were originally meant to dock at the base's harbor were instructed to sail onto Republic Noveria. Hopefully Noveria's government figure out where they want the ships to dock by the time the ships enter Noveria's water.
Run the gauntlet
in Fantasy RP (IC)
Posted · Edited by HHAYD
[quote name='Generalissimo' timestamp='1320728107' post='2841492']
About two hours later:
She was still stalking him through the city. . .
Whistles and roars of jet engines echoing didn’t particularly bother the stalker because this man obviously had a brilliant plan.
A missile exploding over the scavenger’s head splattering color only validated her confidence.
It was only paint. He clearly knew that beforehand! Otherwise why would someone be out in the open in a live fire range?
As the scavenger ran panicked across the bombing practice field whilst being aerially bombared with paint the stalker followed – surely all part of a cunning plot?
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The stalked person continue to run until he jumped headfirst into a pond in the crumbling street, created by a bomb blast.
The problem?
There was an unexploded high explosive bomb in the pond, and when he accidentally crushed it with his forehead while jumping in, it set it off. The ensuing explosion threw all of the water into the air, no remains of the stalked scavenger would be found.
In the sky, the squadron of aircraft flew away after dropping all of their paint munitions, their target practice was over. It would be another four hours before the next practice run took place.