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I'm honored to win this. I'll be honest there hasn't been a lot to go on for awards, but it's good that the stuff we've been able to do/are doing despite our inactivity is recognized.

You were talking about Astro Empires; flipwhich was talking about Lunar Wars.

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This is dynamic!

None. Sorry.

Well, we're not peaceful, so best of luck.

Like majik said, we don't really care that much at your level. There were less than five that could have hit you. The fact that you seem to think people are operating as high of a level as they did the last time you fought in 2009 or 2010 shows how out of touch you are. At the end of the day, this a bucket list thing and the main objective is reducing Hime. He can say that his nation was there to help OBR, but in this instance all it has done is it make it a target and the rest of you are in the stone age comparatively to him. There are some other big war dodgers like Astralasia on your alliance, but most of you do not factor into our goals aside from bringing some war to nations that don't fight. You're collateral damage.

Well, glad you recognize it.

Not really. People had more democracies before but gave up on it and no longer set their alliances by democratic or not democratic fairly early on. For the vast majority of players, it's been about war and internal alliance communities. Most people only really showed up during wars, which they also tended to use as drop off points. Maybe for the leaders some were experimenting with systems of government like Gremlins with the rank system, but that had a limited lifespan. You could argue it was about imposing political will through force, but there weren't many ideological battles aside from raiding vs anti-raiding. Most wars were motivated by things relating to previous wars. For instance, there were a lot of people who sharpened their knives for Karma because someone did something to their alliance in the past or they were offended by the power projection. I don't really see those ideological struggles rather just people trying to accrue power or get revenge on those who had it. There were definitely "keep talking and I will roll you" threats back then. Probably on a more significant level than now.

Tbh this makes Banned look even better.

We're all very grateful for the content being produced here. It's been a five star production thanks to Hime. Halin had a point about this being a much more lucrative content mine than GPA.

Neutrality on here has usually been to avoid intervening in wars/maintain isolationist stance in world affairs. It basically means it's a way to grow unimpeded if people ignore you if there are other sizable political actors. Worked pretty well for GPA with almost 10 years of peace since the Woodstock Massacre.

You're assuming people would care about what happens after.

Yeah, that's really bad. 9 years. Christ.

OBR and OG fought and now are allied, so everyone else needs to move on as well regardless of their Citadel nostalgia.

Blood for the Blood God! Skulls for the Skull Throne!

You're assuming it's worth the effort to do anything else here. Hint: It's not and no one cares.

I don't think it's really meant to mean the whole of Oculus would be taken down. Obviously some nations wouldn't be possible to fight. It would be feasible to pin down large portions of Oculus/Polar if a large enough coalition was assembled and that's the perceived intent. Given it appeared TTK perceived itself to have won via being difficult to keep down vs Maroon 3, a larger version of that could happen.

To the contrary. The issue is this is a 10 year old planet where the stats matter and the gaps between nations are too big and the more active like people like yourself are a tiny minority and often do not have statistical heft themselves. Nation rulers who grew in size and weren't hardcore junkies gradually gravitated to just maintenance rather than wanting to actually do things. It is a mere keepsake for many. Action happens when there are enough people who are willing to fight the wars and urge it. The leaders are ultimately not able to make people press the buttons if they aren't willing to roll out. Like update availability would be pretty high up there, almost no one is willing to do it in this day and age. If everyone was willing to roll out at a moment's notice, then you'd probably have seen more action in recent years. Any war at this point is people trying to get blood out of a stone and will be comical in how little gets done or if it did get done it'd be at a snail's pace like the MONGOLS war and not that exciting. Maybe Grub's suggestion that you pool actives together could work, but are there that many left? I'm not so optimistic. Any setting where the individual's statistics do not matter and new people can step in is much more vibrant.

They can try to overthrow it. I doubt anyone would care though at this point. I barely do. If they can muster the activity, then I'll be impressed. Every coalition war takes hours of work and constant planning. If they could even maintain staggers on anyone, it'd be a true feat.

I was talking about superblocs and 10 v 1 beat downs as he put it. Obviously he's bitter over MI6, but lol. It's just there's no reason for me to logically put the hours into shepherding inactives in a coalition when there's little animosity or things to fight over when the inactivity in this world is so bad. For a long time, I had the objective of keeping NPO down and the Disorder War presented an opportunity to do it and the reason was I thought it would be bad for us NPO to do well due our historical animosity. Few others were invested in keeping NPO down since they wrote it off due to NPO being low tech at the time and cared more about TOP/IRON while at the same time not actually wanting to do either of those themselves. So we pushed it and got a moderate resolution with the terms since our side's ability to keep them down due to the massive low-mid tier was limited in part due to inactivity, but it was clear there was no longer any momentum for further warring on them and NPO put the effort into resolving the animosity, so there was no longer any reason to want to fight them.

How did they kill the game when activity and player count were on a downwards spiral for a lot longer than that and wars were between coalitions that often half-assed due to inactivity and failed to meet objectives? Like holy !@#$, this is the stupidest argument ever. The game is dying because the players moved on with their lives and it's not attractive enough to newer people. 2 of the Oculus alliances disbanded even and I'm sure more will and it had nothing to do with people being bored with the politics.

With the context provided it's pretty clear, all Grub told them is they have to actually ask and talk about peace and shouldn't expect Polar to do a unilateral withdrawal.

Don't think he necessarily meant just the war as the crosspollination with regards to certain parties, it goes pretty far. I'm not gonna comment since I wasn't on the Sparta forums myself, I don't think this is your place given your views on the subject given you see holding OOC: grudges out of game as legitimate. Your own first sentence here shows your own bias. Given I don't believe Sparta has actively sought peace, I don't think it's Polar holding them at war. Their gov just doesn't care, which is fine.