Daeryon

Winter break is normally a good time to bet on a war.

[quote name='Anger' timestamp='1341937163' post='3007855'] Everyone. [/quote] This is truth.

I thought about participating in this thread, but have decided against it.

Congrats to everyone on a very fun war!

[quote name='east westovia' timestamp='1323771010' post='2876413'] Karma war was 3 months long. Must have been oh so dark. [/quote] Right, Yeah. I forgot that at the time we had psychically divined that peace was going to be reached. I'm glad the tarot cards made sure we knew what was going to happen before it did. You missed the point skippy.

[quote name='He Who Has No Name' timestamp='1323587184' post='2873593'] We are who we are, and we don't fit in, and it pisses everyone off because we break their little systems, and we're good at it and we love it. Sticking your tongue out at us, trying to sound pithy, and attempting to smarm us into doing things the way you prefer...? The NPO couldn't pull it off. What makes you so cocky you think you somehow can? [/quote] There's a difference between forging your own path and being a pain in the butt. FAN has been admirable in many ways, especially for surviving VietFan. I know during our own darkest hour at the end of Karma war one of the things that kept us going was knowing that if you guys did it, we could too. However since winning VietFan I'm not sure you guys have done anything other than be one note. And I'm not sure repeatedly attacking NPO is forging your own path. I'm pretty sure that's just being a pain in the butt.

[quote name='Omniscient1' timestamp='1323621865' post='2873946'] I honestly don't give a flying $%&@ who you have a grudge against. I just asked you to hit TLR so that I could burn you all. Please, try to read better before barking craziness on the OWF. [/quote] You sound pretty bitter frosty. Santa would not approve.

[quote name='foxfire99' timestamp='1323589455' post='2873669'] Oh good, I was just worrying that there were too few people on Sparta. [/quote] Glad we could help.

Ride to war ponies! Ride! [img]http://i43.tinypic.com/2elxrhe.jpg[/img]

I think the moral of this thread is we all love gun porn. We should declare peace, form a mega-bloc and take over Bob. [img]http://gunsandbullets.files.wordpress.com/2010/04/swat-compact-2.jpeg[/img]

[quote name='Kanecyn' timestamp='1323453359' post='2871035'] sentance? Really? After that witty and sharp response, you can't even properly spell a word from 3rd grade english? Just stop. Now. Seriously. [/quote] I see you missed the point entirely. Please grade my Eeenglish some more mein furher.

[quote name='Kanecyn' timestamp='1323390000' post='2869842'] That's about right. All's fair in love and war son. Daddy shoulda taught you that. By the way, der furher grammar Goebbels wanted me to tell you its throes and not throws. Just for future reference and all. [/quote] Der Grammar Furher should also point out that "shoulda" is not a word, and "just for future reference and all" is not a sentance. But then again, it's kind of silly and childish to resort to goose stepping to Der Grammar Furher's beat while on a message board, eh?

You do a real good impersonation of a princess. I salute your roleplaying skills.

[quote name='SirSqueeboo' timestamp='1323383239' post='2869648'] I'm not going to waste resources on you or the rest of TPF, go ahead and attack me all you want and claim I'm turtling up, I'm just ignoring you and focusing on NPO. I will admit that your SDI is on steroids. [/quote] Yeah.....that puppy was worth every penny the other night. See you on the battlefield o7

[quote name='memoryproblems' timestamp='1323344699' post='2869009'] Why don't you get it right and call us what we are. We aren't lackeys, we're meatshields. [/quote] I prefer the term "expendables".

[quote name='SirSqueeboo' timestamp='1323304637' post='2867939'] Sorry, but it's been TPF who has been claiming we're hiding in peace mode. Quoting the wrong person is as easy as a typo. Good try though. [/quote] You are not hiding in peace mode. You are turtling nicely. I can vouch for you

There's a lot of problems with this game, and the person who started the thread identified some good ones, though if I were to fix the game, I'd probably not pursue the direction they would seem to want. IMO there are 3 core problems with the game, 2 of which were identified by the poster: #1. It is incredibly difficult for new players to achive any sort of relevancy in the game. The chips are too stacked against them. #2. The original core of people who drove the intrigue and gameplay have largely moved on, and haven't been replaced with the same level of dedication and creativity. There are leaders out there now, but is anyone really thinking outside the box? #3. (MY addition) The game mechanics are terrible in a lot of respects and need a complete re-work. Discussion on issue 1 - Any game where it takes 2 to 3 YEARS to be a relevant force in the game needs to change the rules. Regardless of how you do it, someone should be able to make a new nation and be relevant on a military scale within 2 months. Now this isn't to say that they should be equal to people who have been here 3 to 4 years, but they should be able to compete in some fashion. Discussion on issue 2 - There's not much to do here but hope for an influential second generation to take the reins. I'd encourage people to think outside the box: Just cause it's always been done that way...doesn't make it an official rule of the game. Think outside the mindless domino-effect treaty web. Come up with creative goals for your alliance. Discussion on issue 3 - There's a lot of mechanical problems with the game, but if I had to single one area out, it would be the war mechanics. A war system needs to be developed that does more to a player's nation. Right now I go to war, I hire mercenaries, I lob nukes about with casual flair, none of my stuff really gets destroyed, and then afterward I rebuild for about 6 months to a year. The following major changes should be implemented: Any nation should be able to declare on any other nation. - If I have a mega-nation, and I piss off an alliance of 200 small nations, they can't do squat to me right now. They should ALL be able to declare war on me. (I understand that managing such things would be a strain on the server, so if not all, then at least my 3 slots worth). During these wars there should be real consequences. - If I am nuked by this rogue nation I should stand a chance of losing a wonder. Why is my "great temple" immune to nuclear weapons? Why can't someone target my Anti-air defense network? If I am nuked 6 times over 1000 square miles, my AADN should be out of commission until I build a new one! Enabling this backwards progression and real consequences for wars would be a great equalizer, and would assist with issue #1. Also, if I lose enough infra so that I cannot support an improvement, I should lose that improvement! I shouldn't be able to carry 20 improvements through a war that I don't have infrastructure (or population) for! Other areas that need to be looked at are aid limits - Why can I only get $3 mill in aid at a time? That's silly. Bill payment/collection cycles - Why can I carry labor camps all month long, then swap for one day and not have economic consequences for using my population as slave labor?

I like "The Heptagon War". That's how I'll remember this one.

[quote name='Azaghul' timestamp='1323223773' post='2866566'] STA and TPF are two alliances that while I don't always agree with or like them, I give them credit for standing by their allies and not being cowards. [/quote] Yeah well Azaghul YOUR ALLIANCE IS A... Oh....I think he complemented us? This is weird.

[quote name='Guffey' timestamp='1323191406' post='2865769'] Are you being sarcastic, or did you not witness the last set of wars they've been through and on which side they were on. Lets see, KARMA with defending NPO-- nope that doesn't fit with your statement, the TPF war in early 2010-- nope that does not fit with your statement, the TOP-C&G war-- (TOP side) nope that doesn't fit with your statement the DH-NPO war- nope that doesn't fit either. so in every war from Karma up until now, your statement is invalid. Check your facts. However if your being sarcastic, then you should make it more clear. [/quote] [quote name='Brehon' timestamp='1323206563' post='2866033'] There are many things you can say about TPF to include - dedicated, loyal, supportive, honest and frankly insane (but its a good insane). Never have they done something that befits cowards or two faced. FAN... you signed terms that said the conflict was over. You lied... hello two faced I will happily side with TPF who have stood in the face of hell time and time again for their members are for their allies. Come on now Jack...senility hasn't set in has it? Erixxx... clearly there are issues between your alliance and TPF... You should return to obscurity. [/quote] High praise from two great and honorable alliances. Thanks friends! o7

[quote name='Erixxxx' timestamp='1323191026' post='2865760'] At least I'm not allied to you two-faced cowards anymore. [i]That[/i] was worth it. FAN, give them hell. [/quote] And I thought it couldn't get more funny. If you want a piece of us, we're right here Nancy.

[quote name='Princess Doomee' timestamp='1323183861' post='2865705'] We must give TPF credit for consistency here if nothing else. Once again they waited until the odds were totally stacked in their favor before risking the pixels. Kudos. [/quote] That's pretty damn funny. Pretty damn uninformed and ignorant, but pretty damn funny.

A salute to our partners TPC o7 I know this friendship will continue to grow and we will both prosper as a result.

[quote name='Schattenmann' timestamp='1323065824' post='2863425'] (3) When some idiot like Daeryon implies I'm missing out by not being in a coalition with TPF when I was [i]just [/i]in the worst coalition in recent memory with TPF (DH-NPO war), I [i]do [/i]Hulk-out, and that [b][i]was [/i][/b]a crappy, crappy coalition whose strategy I'll be hearing peacemode jokes about for years, so eat dirt, Daeryon. [/quote] You seem upset. Let me clarify: I was not implying that you were "missing out". I was implying that you are not IN TPF, know nothing about the situation, and have absolutely no reason to be attempting to interpret the treaties and relations of TPF and her allies STA and NPO. Never mind having the audacity of trying to sit back and lecture US on how OUR treaty system should work. In short I wasn't trying to say: "Schattenman join an alliance with us". I was trying to say: "Schattenman you don't know anything about what you are talking about, so mind your own business". But thanks for the unprovoked personal insults in the thread. They warm my heart.

[quote name='Schattenmann' timestamp='1323063669' post='2863359'] The last time I was in a war meeting with TPF, CoJ was ordered to spend 4 months in peace mode and pay $300,000,000 in reparations. You can save yourself the postage on any future war meetings. [/quote] Great. Then we find ourselves in agreement. We make our decisions without consulting you.