Wargarden

sweet! Good Luck fellas! o/

o/ OMFG Good luck guys!

Those terms are the kind of thing that makes wars fun again in CN. Good show IRON for standing up and fighting and good show to KARMA for trying to bring reasonable terms back into fashion. o/ allies o/ noble enemies

You guys are screwed now....... o/ the old guys! o7 the new guys!

Good to see white peace for a good group. Good luck OMFG! o/

After the last war we paid 2000 to NPO and 4000 to TPF and we finished early and with 59 nations. And they weren't deals, it was straight out payments of tech. So, nyah.

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Dear NPO, Love, =LOST= Unnecessary tl;dr =LOST= declares war on the NPO (MADP o/ CnG) for a 2nd time in our life. So nice, we did it twice.

Me mast went up a little with this 'ere announcement. o/ FOB!

I lold. Get 'em RAD.

Late. Tired. A little turned on by all this. o/ propaganda o/ MK give 'em hell guys

Not impressed yet. Waiting for the other shoe to drop.

o/ DICE Good to see you in action.

Double duty. You guys are awesome! o/ our new allies!

=LOST= DoW What hath Hell wrought that no man should stand and gape at the horrors unleashed lest he be driven to madness; clawing eyes, rending clothes, shrieking insanity? I say to you, it is we. From the screams for mercy, for the laments of those lost, to the cries for respite...where seeks one shelter and splendid silence and succor for the soul from these? I say unto you, no such place shall be found. Touched by the hand of wrath, drawn close to the bossom of vengence and having lain on the plank of nails called anger for so long, =LOST= summons its duty, its strength, its bloodlust and its malice and declares war on GGA. We bring to you the tortured souls of past transgressions mounted on steeds of burning fury. We will deliver you into the dark, fetid tombs of your complacense. Ye shall know only the warmth of sackcloth and shall feast on but ashes and salt henceforth. You're end is nigh. Hearlded by booming drum, screaming trumpet, wailing woman and crying child. Meet your end tall, for from memory, from history, from existence, you will be erased. Consumed by fire and trapped in the grey world of eternal unrest. You will know fear. You will know pain. And then, you will know death. You will know =LOST=. Wargarden: Emperor of =LOST=

Speculation. Again. Well the last one obviously did. The idea that this was planned way in advance and was just waiting for an opportunity is silly. There has been a pattern emerging for sometime now of resistance to evident despotism. There wasn't a concerted effort to throw someone to the wolves, just to get at another group. (Hyperion/MK anyone?) The cards fell where they fell and opportunity for effective resistance knocked. Conflicts are generally engineered, but this was not some longterm scheme. One side tried to trump up charges...again....and this time it backfired on them. Groups loyal to their allies came to their defense and due to the egregiousness of the violations, many more haver joined the cause. Thats not much of a plan. It may be opportunism, but its not a plan. Like I said, you've been seeing Bob for so long under the lense of a top down power structure with one power on top, that you can't imagine a world where no single hegemony rules things. Look, after all this is over, there will still be blocs and lots of them. And not a single one of them will have a good enough hand left to fill the vaccum singley. The power will spread out amongst the strongest of those. That makes it a multi-polar world. Like I said. One group or alliance isn't going to be capable to just roll in and say "we're in charge now." And i for one would like to see a less hegemonic world for awhile. An apologist doesn't apologize. Dictionary ftw.

Pure speculation. They could as easily let NPO off with white peace and still turn into this monster you're afraid of. Or they could as easily force NPO to disband, or worse, and be a beneficent entity. Or they could treat NPO however and just be some alliances. Again assumtion that there is some sort of leader position in this new possible hegemon. It obviously was the NPO conerning the last, but I see no direct evidence to indicate that there will be one in this new possible group. Like I said, I see a future free of hegemony, for awhile at least. And that similar ideal and goal was to centralize power over spheres of influence. The leadership position was not defacto granted but a planned course of exerting influence over as wide a reach as they could. Obviously these ideas and goals weren't the foundational force linking these alliances as most just bolted as soon as the leader piosition came under undefensible attack. The central power was the linch pin, not the ideals....unless the ideal is "bolt when things get heavy" and the goals are to "protect your interests at all costs." Too me that wreaks of the old hegemon beiong based around a central power firgure whose usefulness ended to them when it made a fatal mistake. Man I hate reaosning with apologists.

You're simply refering to justice being an eye-for-an-eye. This says nothing of what happens afterword. Your caught up in what's going on right now. If you're so sure, then of all the Karma alliances, who's the new global despot? Do you see anyone linked into the treaty web like NPO was through 1V and the Q? I sure don't. Thats why I'm saying your judging a post war world on how negotiations are going after only one round of negotiations. What I'm getting at is there is no "top spot", as you said, to be had. That group of alliances you refer to had a center piece as the NPO. No such globaly dominant alliance is at the center of the other group. Your shifting your points back and forth from a specific defense of NPO getting terms they should, to saying that these terms offered show us vision of the future ruled by some gaggle of power hungry alliances. Its not the same thing and using on to link to the other is non-sequiter. It doesn't follow from harsh terms = new global despot.

No one is replacing anyone. That's kind of the thing. Everyone is so used to the paradigm of having a unilateral power you can't imagine a multi-polar world. Well, you're gonna get one pretty soon. I for one look forward to Bob full of anarchy and treaty web simplification. New overlords will arise in time as nature abhors a vaccum. But until then, its blissful chaos.

Good. A fight. Good luck with that. o/ balls

lame.

Hawt! o/ CnG

wow. Impressive show of class. I don't know much of TORN, but this is cool. Good show.

Classy and Sassy all in one package?!?!?!! I'm likin' this! Also, page three and actaully NB4M0gar.

Maybe they have huge balls? This is an interesting move. Good show! o/ enemies of my enemies!