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Yevgeni Luchenkov

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  1. Paperless wouldn't further anything, but stagnation and the occasional curbstomp. We have had some of the closest wars this world has seen in its history and they have happened because people were able to maneuver an existing treaty web that gave them the knowledge of who they could count on if they were able to secure X and Y tie. People go to war because they know they have good odds of winning it. Nobody would risk a war in a paperless world: too much uncertainty. Even with proverbial spies, you'd still have half the world in the dark and that's for the well informed. Plus, you go paperless and I'm afraid half the alliances around here would disappear, with their leaders having nothing to do, now that they cannot sign treaties.
  2. The day after the war was always gonna be their peak. They navigated their FA to temporarily unite groups that would have never been united otherwise. When war came, the delicate balance became tougher and tougher to maintain but they did their best. After the war - and literally in the last days of it - you saw signs that it was going to implode. On the other hand, this "fall from grace" might be a paying move for the NPO, as it appears weaker and is less likely to become the next target. Staying at the top, juggling with several spheres of power, would have definitely painted them as the new kings. It's not a good position to be in.
  3. All threads must become about TOP, even indirectly.
  4. It was NG, MK, TOP, IRON. Then TLR, Umbrella and others. There was a TOP-MK-IRON-NG govt channel for ages. It was even used as the initial coalition channel. I'm not sure why you're trying to be obtuse: the name of the war is the [i]Grudge War[/i] (Revenge War for us but semantics). It's obvious as to who the main concerned parties were. IRON and ourselves started a war of aggression against Polaris. It was clear as the day. Why you are acting like it's a new demonstration is beyond me. IRON made it clear before the war that [i]they[/i] wouldn't take reparations but they also made it clear that they were perfectly fine with us taking some. We agreed that we wanted the ammount to be anywhere between 100k and 200k. When we opened the negotiations with you, no one was asking for an end to this war on our side. It went normally (high end offer <---> low end offer) until IRON decided that the war needed to end [i]quickly[/i]. We adjusted our demands, went with a less confrontational approach. Peace was reached rapidly. There was an unfortunate delay in gathering the signatures: Random was tough to get ahold. I imagine it was done on purpose, as you saw our negotiating position weakening quickly and probably thought about exploiting it a little bit. That's fair.
  5. Not really. We planned the war. We talked with IRON and others about it for a while. We made sure other wars didn't happen. Your trap isn't one. The Grudge War served other people's interests too, not only ours. People had rivalries and wanted to see other alliances dead. Unfortunately, many treaties prevented many people from hitting who they wanted. It led to another global war not too long afterwards. Planning a war and executing it are two entirely different things: I'm sure eQ had vastly different plans as to how the last war was supposed to unfold.
  6. They were not pushed aside during peace talks. We were told to negotiate it. They were more than welcome to be present; most of the time their own government was either not present or told us we were good to go. As far as the position goes, you understand the concept of negotiating. Let's not insult each other's intelligence. We had agreed with them on a high demand in order to get something we wanted. All of a sudden, they came to us and told us the war needed to stop. I'm sorry if their position evolved rapidly. We did what we could to adjust the demands. The fact that we achieved peace in a few days is a testament to our efforts in that case, not something that should be held against us. It would have been foolish to simply give up our entire position simply to spare a few days of fighting. You don't plan a war for a year and then spend two months fighting it only to completly abandon your political position in the last three days because your ally has a change of heart.
  7. I don't want to further derail this thread into TOP-IRON's Grudge politics but I'm the one who initiated most of the contacts between Polaris and our coalition. I talked with Polaris repeatedly. We didn't drag our feet, at all. When IRON notified us that they wanted the war to cease, we severely reduced our demands (that they had agreed upon previously) and negotiated peace with Polaris in less than 72 hours. What took several more days was the gathering of signatures, especially with Random being very hard to find at the time. There are many logs about that. We also didn't sit back. We provided aid, we covered all of the nations we could cover and all of our smaller nations - surely not a large number by any means - fought. IRON knew our alliance's tiers from Day one. They knew what we could provide and what we could not. We went above and beyond.
  8. Do provide them. I'll be happy to finally see the proverbial logs. It's a common thing we often hear about when it comes to TOP's history. [i]Logs[/i] would exist of our eternal malevolance, they are exchanged far from our evil watch but when it comes to producing them, they are suddenly very hard to find. In this case, timing is the key.
  9. Mompson, we didn't force IRON's hand during the Grudge War. We had also been clear from the get-go (actually, for more than two years) that we wanted revenge. IRON was fully on board. A few weeks before, they told us that they wouldn't take reps because they actually favored taking them "on the battlefield", in "blood". Let's not rewrite history. When IRON started talking about going for peace, we said we would try to speed things up. We simply weren't going to give it all up and go from a previously-agreed position to pure white peace just because they suddenly felt it needed to happen now. It would have been ridiculous. I see a little bit of that attitude in the cancellation: IRON seems to enter coalitions and then experience an afterthought: they knew full well who NPO's allies were and where they would be. Given IRON's past, they should fully sympathize with that kind of position, not lambast the NPO for honoring their treaty agreements. But hey, bold move, I'll give you that.
  10. Your alliance informed us in our embassy on day one, mate. ;) It was part of our advices to them: change your theme. We dared to hope that there might be something salvageable from that group of rulers; after all, it is not everyday that Digiterra gets over seventy new nations.
  11. If it had been due to social pressures, we would have cancelled on day one. No, it has to do with the fact that our first protection was a temporary measure to give them the time to organize themselves. We sent them a few messages with tips as to what they needed to be recognized as a legitimate alliance around here. We gave them a full week of protection. They have failed to do it. We hope that being on their own will give them an incentive to work harder or, else, seek new homes.
  12. [center][/center] This is simply to inform the world that "The Six Million" alliance affiliation is no longer under our protection. You can return to your scheduled talks about PZI (what is this, 2008?).
  13. I'd agree with you in the case of a well established nation. However, when a very small nation commits treason, I believe he should be kept at ZI for a while, so he cannot simply lose 100 infra and then walk free. Simply put: if he's rich, strip him of his riches. If he's not, keep him in jail for a while.
  14. PZI is often nothing more than "ZI for the time being", it rarely is [i]permanent[/i]. Given that the has betrayed their trust on several levels, it seems an appropriate measure.
  15. It's still my point. You made the argument that R&R had helped the creation of the SF-XX superbloc. However, I had already said as much. Treaties and blocs are not an end: they are means to an end. The problem with R&R and so many alliances is that they think that the goal in this game is to get treaties: it's not. Treaties are tools to achieve goals. Your argument is exactly what I reproach to R&R: you've spent years in one of the most powerful political position one could hope for. Yet, you did nothing [i]with[/i] it. Alliances like MK, NPO, TOP, Umbrella, Polaris and GOD (to name a handful) experience the ups and downs of this game because they use their political capital to accomplish things (less for GOD these days). That's why they also end up getting their comeuppance sooner or later (and global wars are centered on that objective). Your alliance is simply content to exist and sign treaties.
  16. I don't think the word "base" is the one you're looking for, mate. TOP has had absolutely nothing to do with SF-XX in the past oh three to four years. Remind me of those years when R&R has ever led anything? You've spent close to two years with an absurdly politically powerful position (bridging two influential blocs) and your alliance has never accomplished anything of note. I'm not trying to be mean there: I sincerely can't pinpoint any event initiated by R&R. As for the serf comment, we do hear it from time to time about our relationship with MK. So far, into the relationship, we've started one war and they have started one war. I'd call it a pretty even deal. Not that you'd know much about getting things done anyway. You spent those years riding fences, signing idiotic treaties left and right, which shielded you for a long time as there was always someone in the opposite coalition to object to your rolling. Again, given your list of treaties at convenient times in history, I wouldn't be throwing stones. We got rolled once, during BiPolar. We lost another war (which I wouldn't call a rolling by any means). You think we didn't have the foresight to see this last war was coming? Unlike your kind, we don't spend most of our time doing jokes about dicks and bacon. We knew full well the war was coming and we would be outnumbered. It took three years for that to happen. We stuck to our guns because it was the smartest thing to do. All you were able to achieve was an unconvincing white peace, scrambled hastily before your coalition collapsed because of infighting. When you are at the top, one day or another, you are bound to get killed. What is truly astonishing is that your mega bloc (SFXX) has spent the past three years being terrible in every possible way. You should bring back Xiphosis from the dead, at least when he was around, you had someone to give you a bit of leadership.
  17. Or maybe better themselves, cut their loose ties and either form a decent opposition (one less likely to be rolled) and be more likely to attract new friends or create a different powersphere. It's not like they're not currently circle jerking already. Anything is better than their current apathy.
  18. The reality is this: 1)If you base your treaties on friendship before politics, your alliance is worthless. People can be friends without being treaty partners but treaty partners should always align politically or give each other some sort of political benefit. 2)We are losing nations daily. In the past few years, we have went from over 35,000 nations to a little less than 12,000. That means less alliances, less blocs, less poles. 3)There simply isn't a lot of real leaders. Most alliances are led by people who shouldn't be in leadership positions because they're either too incompetent to occupy such a spot or lack any form of ambition or project. The problem with #3 is that we currently have two blocs and a half without any semblance of capable leadership. Worse, they seem to be happy to wallow in that state of apathy, doing nothing to better their situation, waiting for the next beatdown to happen. They remind me of broken prisoners who, after too much torture or a prolonged jailtime, end up accepting their fate and stop fighting. We used to think viceroys were horrible things; right now, it would be merciful to impose viceroys on that collection of beaten down states. Sparta, my hand is still extended. We can help you.
  19. Aside from the "herp derp lol trollolol" idiocy (OOC: hint: this isn't Reddit and we're not in 2009 anymore), I found the thread humorous.
  20. I'm surprised. I thought you'd still honor your old anti-raiding stance, Polar. We have that much in common, after all.
  21. Just a rectification for some people: We will provide the help they need if they seek us out. However, they are not our protectorate as per common Digiterran standards. We are simply extending our protection to them to give them a chance to organize themselves without having to fear organized raiders*. If they decide to use that protection to launch offensive wars, they will have to deal with the repercussions. We know it can be hard for a new alliance (OOC: coming from another world) to quickly organize their 70+ members into a cohesive unit.
  22. [center][/center] This is simply to inform the world that "The Six Million" alliance affiliation is under our protection for the time being. You can return to your scheduled micro drama.
  23. Fine treaty between two fine alliances. Hearty congratulations.
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