The Arbiter

[quote name='pezstar' timestamp='1284310305' post='2451061'] Three years after I attempted to do the Legion a favor, I'm the MoFA of a highly respected, well regarded, successful alliance. I've contributed in very real ways to that success. Most folks who dislike STA are still able to say that they respect us. Three years later, Legion is still a joke. Your alliance has the respect of few people. No one hates Legion because no one cares enough about them to feel that strongly. People feel sorry for your alliance because it's a shining example of what not to do. Legion is like the mentally challenged kid who lives down the street. You let him play because he's so pathetic that it's cruel not to. The evidence against your claims that I am a coward and a weakling is mountainous. If being a disgrace to the Legion means being the opposite of your alliance, then the evidence in favor of that position is plentiful. Damn right, I'm a disgrace to the Legion. Thank God. [/quote] We play the game how we want to play the game and have fun doing it and you call us a joke? No... you're the joke Pezstar. You think this game is so important, so real, so tantamount, that you're doing a favor by disbanding an alliance that 400+ people enjoy playing the game in just because other alliances see us as a joke. It's fine if people feel sorry for us, but we're not a shining example of what not to do. A shining example of what not to do is to try to disband an alliance. Despite the constant criticisms thrown at us, everyone in Legion loves the community and loves being there. For someone to attempt to take that away from us by declaring our charter null and void is sick and disgraceful. I don't see how you can equate Legion to a mentally challenged kid, I'll just ignore that and classify it as an apples to oranges logical fallacy. Nobody [i]lets[/i] us play. We play because we want to. We've gone through turmoil after turmoil and struggle after struggle to defend our right to play. If you think you [i]let[/i] us play, pezstar, you are sorely mistaken. Why don't you decide to not let us play again and try to disband us? That worked so well last time... You are a disgrace to the Legion and a disgrace to the spirit of the game, enjoy your reputation.

Nobody's blaming you for our current "failures." It appears HB was blaming you for being a coward, a weakling, and a disgrace to our alliance.

Worst Case Scenario - UPN defeats Casper, destroying 80% of its member base in the process as well as damaging the 20% of active nations. Best Case Scenario - Casper defeats UPN, destroying the 20% of active UPN members and only losing a fraction of its own strength. Casper deposes Peggy Sue and puts in place a new leader that logs in only to collect taxes.

MK's in second. Good job, guys.

Someone should spam UPN nations and tell the ghosts to switch to Casper AA and make Casper an unconditional protectorate.

Edit: Legion is the best.

[quote name='Cataduanes' date='18 July 2010 - 10:46 PM' timestamp='1279489549' post='2377808'] But I still cannot let go of the early memories CJ...surely the early days were worth something?? [/quote] ORRPLE had its day. Over time it disintegrated due to diverging foreign policies and lack of communication but it definitely was worth something at some point.

No, it was definitely one of those two.

[quote name='Alterego' date='16 July 2010 - 09:52 PM' timestamp='1279313543' post='2374977'] Who asked me what? You know Ive never held any position in BAPS rite? How does one pull a fast one by dropping a treaty you dont want. [/quote] Maybe it was Nobody Expects. One pulls a fast one by refusing to void the cancellation window and then goes ahead and posts the cancellation as "mutually agreed" before the window is up. Whatever. As Bud says, it really doesn't matter much.

To clarify, both treaty cancellations were done by Legion. I asked Alterego if we could void the 48 hour cancellation window and he refused. We were planning on making the announcement but BAPS pulled a fast one and announced it early.

Actually we canceled with Valhalla, this has nothing to do with the prank.

Best of luck to you guys as well.

[quote name='Sandwich Controversy' date='15 July 2010 - 01:20 AM' timestamp='1279153230' post='2371830'] Read the thread, jesus christ. Stalwart allies indee-[url=http://cybernations.wikia.com/wiki/GWI]http://cybernations.wikia.com/wiki/GWI[/url] [/quote] I stopped reading here: "On the 15th of July 2006"

Very poor taste.

[quote name='rabonnobar' date='14 July 2010 - 03:43 AM' timestamp='1279075412' post='2370087'] My guess is it is related to Kronos-GOD drama. Isn't Valhalla allied to Kronos? [/quote] GOONS accused Valhalla of spying on someone, GOD tells Kronos to cancel the treaty with Valhalla, Kronos gets angry, Kronos cancels treaty and threatens to DoW in 5 days. I'd think that Val being in peace has more to do with the GOONS thing than the Kronos-GOD drama although it is all connected.

No shoutout?

[quote name='Chief Savage Man' date='09 July 2010 - 02:46 AM' timestamp='1278639942' post='2364095'] In case you weren't aware, freedom of speech means that everybody is free to voice the opinions they wish, including the opinion that Legion should disband. This really is not complicated. [/quote] How is that even relevant? I'm saying that someone who loves freedoms so much should recognize our right to exist. I'm not saying that that isn't freedom of speech. And then you have the nerve to tell me it's not complicated when you can't wrap your brain around a simple statement?

[quote name='Chief Savage Man' date='09 July 2010 - 02:17 AM' timestamp='1278638235' post='2364063'] Speech and existence are different words fyi [/quote] If he's so butthurt that we told him to stop posting in a thread wouldn't it also be a breach of rights if we told him to stop existing?

[quote name='lmcfalcon12' date='09 July 2010 - 02:04 AM' timestamp='1278637478' post='2364046'] No better way to close this out. A friend great and true. I thank you for your kind words. And with REPLY number 300, I'd like this thread to be locked and die. Blah blah blah, good luck Legion. Love me or hate me, I'm not leaving anytime soon. We have had our differences, so good luck to us both. [b]Shape up or disband.[/b] These threads are nothing new. Mine is not the first, and it won't be the last. [/quote] You complain about freedom of speech and then you say something so disrespectful to our right to exist as a sovereign entity? You sir are the king of contradictions. This is about the 30th so far.

[quote name='lmcfalcon12' date='09 July 2010 - 01:51 AM' timestamp='1278636683' post='2364032'] Wow. Sorry for sticking it to a group of people who wronged me (or whatever the case may be. I certainly feel better). I didn't know I needed your approval to make a thread or join your alliance. The irony of your statement is, until now I don't even think I knew who LoSS was. Still don't really. Which means when I've ever mulled over who's alliance to join, they never come to mind. [/quote] We fought LoSS in the Karma War, you know [i]this[/i] Karma War: [quote="lmcfalcon12"]The IG's position is a waste of pixels and forum space. Its a position that once you get it, you're ridiculed and hated. No one wants the job, and the people who take the job have it for like a month at a time. As far as the bold part is concerned, I practically ran the MoD during the Karma war. You're Commodore was a mere, inactive figurehead taking a tag just to make it look like you had a 2nd in command for that ministry. I was up till 2 AM sending out target lists, organizing squads, assigning squads, taking battle reports, and fighting my own battles, while you hid in peace mode because you were a bank nation. Don't give me your bull. Working in the MoE is just an excuse to sit back and watch your fellow alliance members get the crap kicked out of them. You sit and don't fight, which as hard as it may be to believe, I've never sat out a war for Legion...no matter how stupid the cause. That's more than can be said for you or your ministry.[/quote] How could you run the Ministry of Defense without knowing who we fought?! I know I said I would stop posting but this is too good.

[quote name='lmcfalcon12' date='09 July 2010 - 01:31 AM' timestamp='1278635478' post='2363999'] I love Captain America. [/quote] I know I said I wasn't going to post anymore but the irony here is just too ridiculous to pass up. This is my sig on the Legion's private forums: [img]http://img37.imageshack.us/img37/4701/signaturexxv.jpg[/img] That is all. Going away now.

It's good advice RePePe and I probably shouldn't respond. It's hard though because every time lolmc posts it's just filled with nonsense and ridiculousness that must be smitten. But yes, I will stop now. I really want to see a response from him though to the page 14 thang. I'm done. It was fun but now it's just getting tedious.

[quote name='lmcfalcon12' date='09 July 2010 - 12:45 AM' timestamp='1278632686' post='2363938'] Oh wow. Would you like a cookie for the 20 nukes? Most long standing members of the Legion have taken 20 nukes. In my first nation I took 20 nukes. Contrary to you "bashing" in a "query", the rest of your government told me that you were bashing her publicly in her channel. Maybe not in front of her, but certainly in front of her members. As far as the corruption charge, you only pick projects within your alliance for you to get any glory, credit, etc. Oh I especially liked when you awarded yourself all sorts of economic ministry citations and awards in my second trip back. Classy to give yourself honors when your the Minister of Economics. Ironic how they got stripped the same day. That's been a laugh for years. Call me stupid cause you don't like what I have to say, but the truth kind of hurts. Did you ever get those awards back? Or were you not allowed to give them back to yourself? I'm sure the explanation for the "self-awarding" is very exciting and probably funny. I'm curious as to what it will be! [/quote] I know most long-standing members of the Legion have taken 20 nukes... I'm saying that I am not Minister of Economics to peace out of wars, which was your accusation. Peggy Sue said that NPO spies were taking over her alliance and I thought that was hilarious so I may have brought that up... lulz I don't even understand what you're saying... I only do work because of the credit? That's not corruption number one, and number two that's not true. I don't even know what you mean "pick projects" what are you talking about? I awarded myself the general econ medal during the first Econ Award Ceremony because I thought it was common practice for ministers to do so. Remember I became MoE only 2-3 weeks after joining Legion. I didn't know the customs. I stripped it myself after being told it was the wrong thing to do. I'm glad that you've had your laugh, lolmc, because we've been laughing at you for awhile too. I was awarded all awards including the life-time econ award during the next Minister of Economics' awards ceremony. Anyway, for someone who bashed Letum for bringing the topic off topic even though it wasn't, my medals aren't exactly on topic. You're a joke. Also you have yet to respond to the comments on the bottom of page 14.

[quote name='lmcfalcon12' date='09 July 2010 - 12:33 AM' timestamp='1278632002' post='2363932'] You're corrupt. An authoritarian bully. You're in the MoE as an excuse to sit out in wars. You are a racist who's gotten away with countless racist incidents with no more than a slap on the wrist. Yeah maybe disobeying the government was a poor choice on my part, but disobeying you? Heh. Doesn't even come to mind as wrong. Maybe if you hadn't been such a __________ to me over the years like you are to so many other members, you'd have gotten a respectful answer, and compliance with your BB gag. I'm not going to say it anymore, because the majority of the cyberverse knows what I'm talking about. Legion should be ashamed to even have you in their ranks, let alone as a minister, a government official, and supposedly an example to the younger crowd. Get over yourself. When you can stop harassing people, foreigners, in their own IRC channels then start talking again, because that will show me you know how to deal with others. See because bashing PeggySue on their channel, while you are government, is something you would accuse me of being capable of. But I'm not that stupid. See at least I know how to interact with foreigners and friends of my alliance. Something you're not old enough to know yet apparently. If you've got a reason for bashing alliance leadership in their channels...I'm sure we're all waiting for a response. Thanks! [/quote] I don't know if you're trying to get a rise out of me or if you're just really stupid. It's been addressed multiple times that nobody in the Ministry of Economics sits out in wars. I've taken 20 nukes to date, 14 in the Second Unjust War and virtually nobody except people who were on Leave of Absence peaced out during the last war. But you wouldn't know that because you weren't very active. I wasn't bashing Peggy Sue in #upn, I bashed her in query. Anyway, please respond to the post on page 14 I am dying to see your response. Edit: I forgot about your corruption charge. Please explain.

[quote name='lmcfalcon12' date='09 July 2010 - 12:09 AM' timestamp='1278630568' post='2363918'] I don't care what went down. I don't care about Legion anymore. The second you levied your retarded punishment for speaking my mind and basking in the glow that Legion had FINALLY achieved the biggest thing ever in that time, I stopped caring. You guys can continue to be as corrupt, savage, and backstabbing as you want. People already have their opinions of you and they aren't going to change. I disobeyed an order. Whoop de doo. Have you beat that into the ground enough? We've got 13 other pages of people saying, [i]"He broke a rule, but his punishment was out of control."[/i] Would you care to get with the times? Or could you just do us all a favor and stop posting if you can't stay in the present here? I know that only one page of replies has been added to this topic today. I know its going to be difficult to keep up with [i]ALL[/i] the new, fresh material, but if you could, that'd be great. Thanks ahead of time! Letum is spot on? I mean what? He couldn't stray farther from the thread if he tried. I think on page 11 or 12, he wanted to start a debate with me about civil liberties and freedom of speech. Really? I'm not interested in another debate about trivial, meaningless crap. If you want to debate something else, make another thread and discuss it there. Letum doesn't know WTF he's talking about and should do us all a favor and stop posting until he does know. And as far as why people are recruiting (already been recruited by an alliance thanks), maybe some alliances like members who are active, and not just sheep. Maybe speaking your mind every once and a while isn't such a bad thing. In my 6 weeks back at Legion and CN, I barely posted on Legion boards and never touched a CN board. That's why I got recruited. There's not a whole lot of alliances who like quiet, sheep like rule followers like you. Taking a few risks and growing some balls are a part of the game. [/quote] Are you saying that his opinions don't matter because a lot of people disagree with him? I guess you aren't really a champion of free speech... Shouldn't he be free to say whatever he wants, regardless of the amount of people on 13 pages who agreed with the fact that the punishment was harsh? What are you even talking about "get with the times?" What... Anyway, why don't you keep up with all the new material, two posts up from the bottom on page 14 has not been responded to. Thanks ahead of time! You are straying from the topic by talking about how atrocious I am at economics and how I am only 17 years old. That has absolutely nothing to do with the gag or anything to do with free speech. Letum has made the most intellectual and intelligent posts in this thread. He knows exactly what he's talking about. You on the other hand have gotten pretty much 70% of the facts wrong and post them as truth. You should stop posting until you "know." You think you were recruited because you were sheep? You're not that special, buddy. Recruiters send out mass messages to several hundred unaligneds a day. You were just one of those guys, you weren't singled out and virtually nothing was known about you other than your ruler/nation name when you were recruited.