BlkAK47_002

[quote name='Delta1212' timestamp='1293053602' post='2550415'] The fact that you are requesting your allies refrain from entering the conflict: [ ] means they are cowards (check this box if alliance in question is on the other side) [ ] is an honorable move (check this box if alliance in question is on your side) [/quote] ^ This pretty much sums it up

Hizzy......why

[quote name='King Louis the II' timestamp='1293033040' post='2550042'] 1- Spying is not cool. Never. 2- When we will see the orders of the orders announced? It is looking more and more likely. [/quote] The Orders of the Orders never existed, The Ordinance Of The Orders However.......

A lot of people out there feel the exact same way that you do NATO, o/ lmao at ODN members accusing people of being pixel huggers.

[quote name='NOMNOMNOMNOMNOM' timestamp='1292957669' post='2548537'] /I'm getting bored. WHERE IS THE COUNTER ATTACK? [/quote] Woah, chill out there tough guy. Try declaring on an alliance that's not a fraction of your size. I'm sure you would be singing a different tune.

Xbox 360 Gamer Gamertag: OctoberBrigade Favorite Game Genre(s): FPS, RTS, RPG, Games you play: Mass Effect 2, Fable 3, Assasins Creed Brotherhood, Halo Reach, Battlefield Bad Company 2, Gears Of War 2, Saints Row 2, Dragon Age, Smackdown VS Raw 2010, Fallout New Vegas Are you interested in single(1v1) double(2v2) or team type play(4v4 or more):(All is an option) All Time zone: US Eastern Best Way to contact you :(IRC In-Game etc.) IRC: BlkAK47_002, Skype: OctoberBrigade Would you be willing to compete in a tournament? Hell Yes Questions Comments or Suggestions:

[quote name='Sardonic' timestamp='1292910133' post='2547651'] Make me a sandwich. [/quote] Good job, I just sprayed Coca-Cola all over my screen, GOONS owes me a new computer.

[quote name='mythicknight' timestamp='1292910541' post='2547735'] Never thought I'd see the day when PC wiggles out of obligations while ODN honors theirs. Heh. [/quote] Not the words I would have chosen but I somewhat agree.

[quote name='Azaghul' timestamp='1292899915' post='2547410'] Your focus on us as your main enemy is amusing! [/quote] Right back at ya

[quote name='zzzptm' timestamp='1292873130' post='2546845'] OFFICIAL HIMYNAMISTAN RESPOSNE Boo, hiss, evil Pacifica and their propagandic wall of lies! (/me shakes fist dramatically in the direction of Francograd) (/me goes up 5% in domestic popularity polls) [/quote] How dare you use the system to your advantage!!!!!

[quote name='AirMe' timestamp='1292855217' post='2546517'] So it is ok for you to back down in the face of insurmountable odds ignoring the words of your own doctrine. But NEW, who knew full well that the remnants of DF were protected by multiple alliances and they went and raided anyways...and then when diplomacy was tried, well they didn't even really try other than posting a statement that was counter productive. My sources tell me there was a massive attempt at a diplomatic solution except NEW was being exceptionally uncooperative. NEW deserves this. Every ounce of it and more. You and the other NPO's trying to compare this to the safari are only in here to score some cheap PR victory. Don't you have a mustache to twirl? Since we are playing that game, next time don't implement a policy that you can't enforce. If you release a doctrine stating you will protect all nations on red, stand by it and do it instead of backing down. You make sure you can back up your own words. NEW took AGGRESSIVE action against a protected group of nations. And now they are getting stomped by the people who were protecting them. Much like anyone who would have raided GGA when they disbanded would have gotten stomped by Ronin and Gondor if they would have raided. Infact, we only had one nation raid GGA during the 21 day protection period. And GGA was arguably one of the most hated alliances in the world. NEW is getting everything they deserve here. [/quote] Woah, Well someone blew this entirely out of proportion. Okay well lets nip this in the bud here and now because I can tell you are looking for someone to argue with like hell about this, but tonight I'm really not the one. I called a certain group of people Hypocrites. A title that was well earned by that group of people due to their actions during the past few months. That was my two cents. How you swooped in and managed to drag me into a debate about The Red Raiding Safari, GGA or whatever else you managed to trump up in your little rant is beyond me. First off, I never said NEW isn't getting what they deserve. Second, Most of the your "counter points" were directed at subjects that YOU brought up not me. You put words in my mouth then argue against them as if I spat them at you in the first place. I'm not even disputing most of what you said, either because I agree or I simply don't care. The only thing I'm disputing is you sitting here trying to tell me that Pacifica didn't honor her doctrine. Which they did to the best of their abilities. War, the option which you seem to have wanted us to have chosen so badly would've done more harm to the sphere than good. Anything else?

[quote name='AirMe' timestamp='1292830813' post='2546192'] Instead of complaining, man up and enforce your own doctrine. Don't leave it to others to do it. Oh but wait, it wasn't politically convenient to do so. So you didn't Now, I am not defending the Red Safari, I think it was a terrible move and poor show, but you guys also proved that you can't enforce your own policy. NEW has asked they not activate the treaties. So they aren't. Much like the NPO choose not to honor their doctrine when they red was systematically raided by other alliances. [/quote] Next time why don't you just use "Do Something About It" Now implying that someone is a hypocrite is considered complaining by your standards? Good to know. Also, we did take measures to deal with the Red Raiding Safari. We just didn't use military force to do it. You and I both know that would've been suicide and the raids would have continued.

[quote name='Screwedupmonkey' timestamp='1292748332' post='2544222'] As if NPO has any love for VE as it is...... AKA your !@#$ doesn't matter [/quote] Welp, you really told me. I feel horrible now

[quote name='Dilber' timestamp='1292827463' post='2546076'] So if you don't need to defend it, what was the red safari? [/quote] If you're trying to get them to admit to their hypocrisy then good luck

[quote name='Locke' timestamp='1292825574' post='2545996'] At least it wasn't an eternal treaty, amirite? [/quote] Right you are my good man.

Didn't expect you guys to pull an MHA, Good luck I suppose,

I have very little love for \m/ but wow VE............

The TOP jokes...... they just won't stop

[quote name='Lord Levistus' timestamp='1292280558' post='2538802'] 1. Legion approached Val to cancel. 2. Legion asked if the grace period could be waived. 3. BAPS hits me up in a query to tell me Legion is cancelling on them 4. Arbiter slips and tells Moshea that they're cancelling BAPS and Val at the behest of another alliance 5. I preempt Legions cancellation with Val's cancellation of our treaty due to item 4. 6. TG gets intel that it wasn't a current treaty partner but a "new" treaty partner (see log earlier in this thread) 7. Legion takes some PR heat over the cancellations and holds off on announcing until they hope people forget 8. Yesterday. Someone forgot that people here have very long memories. [/quote] Not exactly what I was looking for but it does add to your case.

[quote name='Alterego' timestamp='1292277616' post='2538748'] The truth never mattered much to your alliance, believe what you like. [/quote] Way to take a stab at my alliance just because I gave you an honest opinion. Apparently those don't matter much to you By the way, I've only been in NPO since July.

[quote name='The Pansy' timestamp='1292277174' post='2538738'] I have no bone personally with Legion, other than I wouldn't have them as direct allies (Yes, I personally turned them down in the past for a stand alone treaty), sadly I have to suffer the indirect allies factor through you. I have not said they are WAE, I just said things like that fuel the fire. Having dealt with Legion via Poseidon I am pretty informed as to how good or bad they are, and quite entitled to my own opinion, that being said, I am not here to bash any allies of allies, I am however saying people are entitled to make their own opinions on Legion, and you saying that everyone is on the MK bandwagon in disliking Legion is a far cry from the truth. [/quote] I never said that everyone was in on the MK bandwagon in disliking Legion. In fact that's almost the exact opposite of what I said, [quote name='BlkAK47_002' timestamp='1292276766' post='2538727'] Some people here may hate Legion for understandable reasons, but the majority of people who hate Legion are basing their hatred of them on their position in the treaty web. [/quote] [quote name='BlkAK47_002' timestamp='1292276766' post='2538727'] Then you have a few others just riding the bandwagon. [/quote]

[quote name='Alterego' timestamp='1292275700' post='2538702'] Judge for yourself [22:40] <The_Arbiter> we have an announcement ready to go and people think Val canceled on us [22:40] <The_Arbiter> kinda want to clarify that soon O.O 01[22:40] <Topgun{BAPS}> Who are you planning on signing with? [22:40] <The_Arbiter> you'll see! 01[22:41] <Topgun{BAPS}> Then why not say? [22:41] <The_Arbiter> as soon as it becomes non opsec i promise i'll find you 01[22:41] <Topgun{BAPS}> WE are well were allies 01[22:41] <Topgun{BAPS}> Stays with high gov [22:41] <The_Arbiter> what's it matter? 01[22:42] <Topgun{BAPS}> I could ask the samething for the 48 hr period no? [22:42] <The_Arbiter> what's to stop you from telling anyone else? 01[22:42] <Topgun{BAPS}> My word [22:42] <The_Arbiter> look, it's nto me [b][22:42] <The_Arbiter> The_Arbiter> can i tell baps who we are going to sign with [22:42] <The_Arbiter> <Watcher> noo[/b] [/quote] That is pretty interesting but the way I see it, it's not very conclusive. I have to look into it more before I can decide what to believe. Until then my opinion stands.

[quote name='The Pansy' timestamp='1292273862' post='2538684'] They dropped it for like I say a secret treaty, I have and will most likely never get confirmation it was this one. Point is, those 2 they have admittedly dropped for a treaty that might or might not be this one, are more than entitled to hate on Legion some. And with that firmly out in the open, it kinda fuels fire to the WAE tag a little, don't you think? [/quote] Yes and no. I don't know if you have a bone to pick with Legion or not but if you think Legion is the WAE, you are certainly entitled to your opinion. I think there are quite a few alliances out there who are more deserving of the WAE title. You also have to take into consideration that the WAE title was bestowed upon them by alliances who have an intense and or irrational hatred for Legion. Some people here may hate Legion for understandable reasons, but the majority of people who hate Legion are basing their hatred of them on their position in the treaty web. Then you have a few others just riding the bandwagon. I could sit here for hours and list reasons why Legion isn't the worst alliance ever but it wouldn't matter.

[quote name='Cager' timestamp='1292272257' post='2538662'] And yet Legion's military prowess hasn't changed. [/quote] You won't know that until the next time they fight. [quote name='The Pansy' timestamp='1292272288' post='2538663'] Hows about those allies Legion dumped over a Secret treaty? are they allowed to hate? [/quote] Is this true? Or just a theory? Until Legion admits that they did drop their allies for this treaty I think it's wrong to assume. Of course since it's Legion everyone will. Judging how those alliances reacted to the canceled treaties it looks like there was no love lost anyway.

[quote name='Chief Savage Man' timestamp='1292221794' post='2538239'] Not as simple as you think, but point taken. [/quote] The "Simple" part wasn't a jab at you though, just so we're clear.