MCRABT
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95% of CN members don't want a treaty with NSO either.
Thanks for founding a community of bad posters then.Someone had to ensure you weren't lonely in this world.
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I still haven't gotten an answer on why it is IRON's responsibility to look after NG's broader coalition.
Also, James, it might be time to update your forum profile after 213 days spent at NG. Just saying.
IRON's responsibility is to honour their obligation to NG, if you wanted NG to discharge that obligation then you had to broker terms between LoSS and NG that were acceptable to NG. Entering peace negotiations does not nearly satisfy the defence clause in the Forge accords which states:
"There are times when it will be needed to lend a hammer or a shield forged from this treaty. Should any third party strike the shield of either signatory then the other will duly cast his hammer upon them".
But then you already new that because I already told you in the IRON embassy.
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I wonder if [S]this is how[/S] IRON thinks these days.
Fixed that for you.
Maybe IRON should have cancelled the treaty if they didn't like what they were doing. It's not like they didn't cancel one of the longest-standing MDPs in CN history in the lead-up to this war or anything.
Rather than keeping a dead treaty around for the sake of political convenience and then pretending it didn't exist when it inevitably gets brought up.I agree that they should have cancelled this treaty but they hardly cancelled the TOP treaty in the build up to this war, trying to pawn that off as linear set of events is pretty misleading and not even close to accurate.
All I can say about this is that I hope IRON's membership doesn't suffer to much from this decision. Good luck navigating the path ahead IRON, I fear it may be a little bumpy.
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I was referring to your statement that I quoted nothing else. What you did for most of your time in IRON was awesome and earned my respect. Your accomplishments, along with the rest of IRON council were many. I disagree with some of your actions lately but that does not lessen your earlier accomplishments. I have my opinion, You have yours.
I find it strange that you didn't feel that way the numerous times, when you were on IRON council and IRON's president, that you failed to honor the IRON - R&R MDP. That treaty did not have a non-chaining clause at all. According to your quote above you feel IRON should have. So you and IRON council were in breach of the IRON charter, in your opinion, how many times? I lost track but quite a few. There was always some discussion in IRON whenever IRON and R&R ended up on opposite sides of a war. Which was every war.
RnR never once activated the treaty, just like we never when we were on the loosing side, so neither party ever breached the obligation.
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You had that opportunity. You chose to not take it. Backseat driving IRON or in this case trying to drive IRON from a car on the other side of the road going the other way is not the way to go. You were the IRON president that all but disappeared during the EQ war, when IRON was on the other side from TOP and then left IRON right after peace was declared. A peace, I might add, that was a surprise to the IRON membership. You had your chance to lead IRON against TOP and company and blew it. I am not a member of IRON gov. Just a long term member and this the way I view your comments.
Your entitled to that opinion buddy, I had more pressing other world concerns at the time, these things happen, in any case it wasn't IRON's contribution to that war that caused it to fizzle out (we did alot more than others around us) although my lack of presence during the peace talks was a disruption for everyone involved. But hey at least I took the shot and I was able to rationalize doing so. I would also point out I was one council member in a council of equals, that I took on more responsibility reflected my desire to achieve the best I could for IRON. I did my best and damn sight more than most ever will do. I think your post is fairly unflattering about the 3 years of work I did to rebuild IRON from the war ravage wreck I inherited it in after Bi-Polar but hey we will let history be the judge.
In any case this isn't about me, if your comfortable with your councils decision then that is your prerogative.
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Things Max Power just taught me: MI6 is at war with Non Grata. Neat.
Let me be frank - MI6 has been liberal with our criticism of people during this war, and it is most assuredly not restricted to IRON. So thank you for assuming malicious intent, Crab, but MI6's only goal is to win this war. Everything else is secondary.
I'm certain it is secondary to winning this war Chim but secondary objectives logically move up the ladder when other more pressing concerns are out of the way.
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Not without Mia holding your hand.
Naturally, Mia was telling me you guys were snakes long before I gave up on you. All that credit you've been giving me for the breakdown of our relationship is truly unwarranted and I know she is a little bitter about that.
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Additionally, I find it rather funny that IRON only is singled out: where are the complaints about Valhalla?
TOP/MI6 drumming the roll IRON tune early because they think this is a good opportunity, much harder to do that to Valh given they are already fully committed to the coalition. Besides if they get IRON they get Valhalla to so it's entirely unnecessary.
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You could have been in charge.
:rolleyes: .Oh I'm certain my handling of this war would have made things much worse for TOP.
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That should really make him count more, since he wasn't involved in this, he can be more objective about it; that, combined with his extensive experience, means his opinion should carry even more weight than most others.
Experience is largely irrelevant, what validates any view point is its ability to stand up to rebuttal, what disappoints me the most is the failure of the standing council to explain how its recent decisions are in the best interest of IRON. In failing to offer this rational they have simply failed to contest the validity of my view point at all. Manifested, this type of negligence results in extremely poor decisions and that is why we have this thread.
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Wasn't all the embassy talk enough?
I'd have expected better from you
I'd love to have continued our discussion in the embassy but your government locked all of the discussion threads because it couldn't reconcile its position with the very charter and values they are responsible for protecting. The onus is now on IRON's membership to take the action required to do so.
I expected better from IRON so I guess we are both disappointed eh?
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The treaty should have been honored whether it was convenient or not, by failing to honor it the standing IRON Council is in breach of the IRON charter. The standing council has acted with general incompetence since the start of this conflict and is unfit to lead.
As a result IRON is up shit creak without a paddle and is now a sitting duck for its enemies who are already circling despite being involved in a sizable conflict.
It is hard to imagine how anybody could have handled this war worse than the IRON Council has.
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More garbage for the fire, maybe MHA will manage more than 20 wars a round this time out.
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I'm coming back for one reason only: to remind those who were unaware what kind of person Steve Buscemi really is.
Many years ago, a certain alliance somehow found out about an internal discussion we were having. That discussion was not terribly aggressive but out of context it seemed so. As I was fixing it (by showing him the ENTIRE discussion), their leader admitted to me that a member of TOP showed him tailored screenshots of that discussion. I launched an investigation--all signs pointed to Steve Buscemi. He even appeared to be a part of them. But there was not proof, so I let it go.
At the eve of war, with TOP at the head of the Coincidence Coalition--Steve Buscemi entered peace mode against orders. No explanation was given. But he was a quiet member, so I let it go.
When we were caught unaware and trapped by our enemies during the BiPolar war, Steve lashed out at Crymson, and jumped ship, and joined the other side. I resolved not to let that go.Want to talk about grudges? Steve Buscemi was a traitor to us. But TOP did not hold a personal grudge against Steve for one reason: those who knew held our tongues. You were not worth the cost.
But we never forgot.
And now no one else will, either. Thanks for handing this opportunity to us.That is realpolitik.
Steve you lashed out at that nice guy Crymson? How could you? You are not my mate, your are no longer my fellow DJ.
The best thing about this post is that while trying to attack Steve for stabbing you in the back, you elaborate that rather than confront Steve you have been simply waiting for an opportunity to return the favour. In doing so you abandon your moral high ground and all you're really saying is that TOP is opportunistic and deceitful.
Everybody already knew that but thanks for the memo.
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Well that was monumentally stupid LoSS.
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Take some time off and come up with a new routine.
I've taken some time off Crymson it has been lovely, but thank you for your concern. You know what? You should really do the same, there are much more interesting things to do out there than running around telling people how uninspired you are.
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If I had to guess, I'd say it's because you joined NG's AA less than eight hours ago.
Unsurprisingly, the vacuity of your comeback matches that of its origin.
Do you ever get tired of spitting venom? It must leave a real nasty taste in your mouth.
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Due to the lack of substance (i.e an actual war being declared on NG) I believe the GGA to be full of hot air.
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I'm in nuclear anarchy. I thought this was NG's blitz?
Also, hi MCRABT - long time no see.
slow and steady something something about a turtle and a hare.
It has been a while buddy, I mostly linger in my rocking chair these days but thought I'd pull out the tri stand to deliver some glowing presents to some old friends ;)
He joined Non Grata just for you and you greet him like that?
Have fun Crabby, hope it's worth it :P.
I'm dropping the bomb to clear the air :ehm:
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Why do I still have 3 open defensive slots?
This is getting embarrasing.
Why do I? For your convenience: http://www.cybernations.net/nation_drill_display.asp?Nation_ID=338286
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Old grudges disappearing, new friendships blossoming and relics of the past feeling physically revolted. Maybe there is some life left on this planet after all?
o/ to our new allies.
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Reminder that MK ever supporting NPO or IRON via anything, exempting support of CnG/TOP, is possibly the most retarded idea to ever circulate this forum.
IRON and MK supported one another when their goals weren't mutually exclusive, in fact MK asked IRON for a treaty once. I know, mind blown.
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Well, I am disappointed if this represents TOP's official position in light of recent events. Redirecting attention to me and my past does not make my argument invalid. I wish TOP the best of luck in the future and hold no hostility toward Paradox or any other alliance.
Your failure to address the criticisms of your analysis demonstrate the glaring wholes inherent therein, that you have persisted with it regardless demonstrates a state of cognitive dissonance. It's a nice theory buddy, and these types of posts should be encouraged, just remember it's OK to admit that you might not have got it quite right.
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Yeah man, GOP was sure endangered!
GOP is a neutral alliance. MQ and LPH arbitrarily attacked a neutral alliance because they are neutral. GOP thinks that arbitrary attacks on neutral alliances may be a threat to them because they are a neutral alliance. GOP moves to neutralise MQ.
VE says hands off GOP because they aren't neutral but do like neutralising folks for their friends.
Everything seems perfectly legit to me, so stop whining your spoiling the glory of MQ's martyrdom.
Paradox Declaration of War
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TOP you were much cooler with double vision, sobriety has done you no favours. I blame Crymson and his orthodox views for this.