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  2. Bob Janova

    Posted

    Situation 1: GGA wants VE rolled, so they get all their allies together and PZI the lot of them.

    Situation 2: Gre wants IRON rolled, so their allies leave them on the field to gradually bleed their membership count while IRON begins to rebuild and hold other alliances to their agreements

    Clearly the same

    The post you quoted does not state that the two instances you highlighted are the same, so what are you getting at?

  3. Bob Janova

    Posted

    The embassies of all the Citadel alliances on our home boards were always dead because we did the interaction in Citadel IRC and forums. However, this:

    ... has some element of truth to it (as I said in my last reply, some people were actively working against Citadel at that time). I was certainly trying my best though. Unfortunately people on both sides of the fence (in Grä/Umbrella and TOP/Argent) were tired of talking to each other and my efforts were not enough to keep things together.

    I'm not really sure what Shah's talking about either. After Grämlins left Continuum IRON turned pretty cold to us and I'm not aware of any sort of talks like what he describes, though the timing could be after I left.

    After you guys left Citadel relations remained cordial and I as DSoS for IRON at the time actively pursued a relationship between the two alliances. At this time IRON still had alot of respect for Gre and this later resulted in us signing a ToA with hopes of building on it, well at least from our point of view anyway. I believe Chill was Praetor during that period, when he stepped down communication also decreased until the outbreak of the Karma war when the ToA was cancelled by you guys.

    I believe what Shah is referring to is a later approach by Ramirus on the 23rd of November encouraging us to drop ties with TOP, and align with Gremlins. It seems a tad IRONic now.

  7. The AUT

    Posted

    Perhaps make a poll?

    Besides, the game is MUCH more fun now that both sides actually have a chance to come out on top. Before, we knew who would win every time. Let's be serious, here. You're not complaining because it's less fun overall. You're complaining because you don't like that you're losing. If you were winning you'd be agreeing with me that, overall, the game is much more fluid and dynamic now than it was even 6 months ago, and much more dynamic than just over a year ago.

    With that said, I agree, enjoy the game however you'd like. From arguing with over-the-top opinions to playing seriously, you can do a lot in this game.

    While I would debate whether or not the game is more fluid in its current state, I won't deny that being the underdog once again has certainly provided a fresh challenge, while it is yet to be conquered it has certainly been an interesting experience and has changed my attitude toward how the game could be played and how an alliance should conduct itself.

    Prior to this war and the existence of a multi polar world the foreign affairs aspect was indeed interesting I'll have to see how the current climate plays out before casting judgement on the next cycle.

  8. supercoolyellow

    Posted

    Ramlins are scum and should be rolled by IRON. At least thats my wish.

    Hi Scutterbug, it's nice to see you again and equally pleasurable to have MHA's support. I assure you we are working tirelessly on a solution to the problem at hand, I am informed that exposing Gremlins to bright light kills them, as such I am currently in search of a 30,000 watt bulb in order to inlighten our current foes. It is my hope that the Gremlins will be lovable Mogwi in the not so distant future.

  11. Goldie

    Posted

    Now to be fair, the prospect of demanding an "unconditional surrender" so that you may be subject to anything they wish to impose after said unconditional surrender is being almost universally condemned from both sides of the aisle. I personally think IRON is a massive joke and I even find the term ludicrous.

    Indeed and I wouldn't say otherwise for the vast majority of posters here, my reply was specific however to an individual post which was sympathetic to the idea. But then I think you knew that and just thought you would take my post out of context in order to make a snide remark about my alliance. I don't exactly think the world of you but I don't feel the need to express it at any given opportunity. Perhaps you should find a new hobby?

    You've said this a few times so I'll go ahead and correct you here. Nobody in MK mentioned gre. TOP mentioned the stale in the discussion was due to gre when discussing things with MK members in a owf thread, that doesn't mean MK had any part in 'outing' them.

    Your right no one from MK specifically mentioned Gremlins as the obstacle, however Archon did accuse TOP of being the obstacle to peace talks knowing that was not the case. Now I believe Archon to be a clever chap and I find it inconceivable that he didn't know what direction that topic was going to go once he floated that accusation out in the open. For the cynical among us it's almost like he wanted to out Gremlins or something :blink:

  12. Goldie

    Posted

    Well unconditional surrender doesn't sound that bad considering you guys were the aggressors and got your $@! beaten quite severely (albeit against lots of opponents). Is that something that needs to be argued or is it fact that no specifics were given that is causing this 'outrage'?

    Unconditional surrender isn't that bad? I suppose if you were in our shoes you would be skipping with Gremlins and knitting daisy chains in the grass. The fact is unconditional surrender leaves IRON open to any demand Gremlins may make, including disbandment, eternal tech farming, government members etc, in the event of such scenarios IRON would be much better off fighting forever. Any term that unconditionally limits the sovereignty of an alliance without any definite time period is of the highest degree odious and is from my point of view simply unacceptable. Judging by Gremlins codex this is a view they themselves once shared.

    In this particular case IRON agreed to meet Gremlins original term, upon conclusion of talks with CnG Gremlins changed there demands and here we are. To see people once again defending the use of highly oppressive terms is saddening. Were they to be accepted they would mark a massive leap backwards for this community.

    We were the aggressors so what? I remember back when "karma" supporters such as yourselves were using the argument that war is a part of this game, denying enjoyment to sizeable portions of this community is not. I'm sure you won't object to me recycling that argument.

  14. Chief Savage Man

    Posted

    I find it ironic that you're using reps YOU YOURSELVES imposed as propaganda. The fact you extorted FEAR for defending us, and you're using that to somehow boost your case is hilarious.

    Secondly, do not concern yourself with our relations with TOP. There is a small of handful of alliances still bleeding beside us as we fight for survival, and they're one of them.

    Finally, mhawk beat me to it, but it seems the majority of commenters here don't know the history of the "NUTS" comment.

    Actually Polar started this whole thing how much did they pay?

  15. Penkala

    Posted

    Blaming your own incompetence on IRON is laughable at best. If you didn't want us in peace mode then you should have co-ordinated your wars better, the vast majority of our nations have exited and fought multiple wars during this campaign, the fact they are in peace mode now is due to your own ineptitude. Get over it or get better at war, simple as that. We will order our nations out of PM as we see fit and we don't really care how you perceive our tactics, we didn't much like Vox's tactics pre Karma either, it's war tough luck.

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