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That's everything a flag should be @Levonscott . Well done.
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17 hours ago, AlmightyGrub said:
I have no idea what is happening and no real interest in the actual situation, but I will not let a drive-by from a bottom feeder alliance like CCC go unnoticed. Having contributed nothing, ever, to the greater CN community, you haven't earned the right to wipe our collective arse let alone take pot shots. Get thee behind me.
The news about the existence of a greater CN community have been exaggerated.
Yeah I know.
7 hours ago, HeroofTime55 said:[...]
Grub deserves better.No alliance in existence is good enough for Grub, anyway. No offence meant.
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4 hours ago, LJ Scott said:
How rude to be dragged back into activity...
Dragging you back into activity would be a good thing. Well, maybe not for you.
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ITT war names should be funny and also have content - like BiPolar - Herogasm is ok on the fun part only. Tevron's alternatives aren't very funny.
I'll go with WC that we can wait for a couple rounds and then see.
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6 hours ago, DeathAdder said:
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So... why is it still a topic being discussed?
I think that my opinion about the greatness of others being super irrelevant is something we can universally agree on, I'm puzzled as you are.
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5 minutes ago, DeathAdder said:
No one does care except you.
I agree with you even more than you do, I don't really care about those facts either.
If a random comment of mine sparks outrage and gratuitous unintelligent hypocrisy I can occasionally muster enough attention to reply further, but you already knew this bit too.
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7 hours ago, White Chocolate said:
I’ve had my share of being raided. I can not speak for others but in my case, raids were actually part of what kept me playing. I got more active, found friends/allies by seeking them out in order to stop raids, learned how to war to defend myself, invited friends to join me and kept interested because survival on my own terms presented a challenge worth it. Spare me the fake tears for anyone leaving over raids. True - it’s not like I have spoken to every nation leaving, but neither have you. Of all the reasons people given me regarding why they decide to leave, “because of the raids” has not come up. It’s generally about a lack of time.
There's a difference between experiencing an healthily challenging experience and fighting an hopeless battle against unchecked cheaters, but you wouldn't know because at the time you were firmly on the cheaters' side - that's what you call survival on your own terms.
There are no fake tears involved, sure people leave any game for a variety of reasons, but in this specific case: when the multies scandals emerged, years ago, there were clean players openly saying that they were leaving - or they would have left if things hadn't been properly addressed - and which since actually left, and you were personally there, replying to them and trying to convince everyone that it was just petty stuff that had happened totally by chance, etc, the kind of stupid defence we're again reading in this thread. Spare me your absurd stories about anecdotes of people leaving for this or that reason, it's not what we're talking of.
Talking of why we're still on the subject, I don't know why you people still think that is a good way of defending this crap. It's not that I or anyone else spends their days posting about it, it's just a yearly post, at most, when I stumble upon someone admiring Steeldor's "greatness". Just look the other way, avoid quoting my posts, ignore me and stop making this relevant, nobody actually cares anymore.
2 hours ago, Gh0s7 said:If you believe rules were broken, there is an avenue to report that. Otherwise what you're doingnis baseless speculation, so come back with concrete proof and a report, and focus in the subject at hand. Appreciated. Sorry, but people have been accusing each other over this crap for decades, and these claims rarely have any substance. And this is not the place for that kind of discussion
It's not baseless speculation, Steeldor had around 64k tech levels erased overnight in a period in which some mod had found/been presented with damning evidence about his tech. His tech having been erased is recorded. It's fact.
It makes no sense to report it again as the mods already acted upon it.
It's cringe worthy that some people gets overly agitated about this stuff, go around taking of "insinuations", "suggestions", "speculations", try absurd defences of totally unacceptable unfair play. We're talking of established facts, just say that you're OK with all that or, even better, don't post at all on the subject and let it be forgotten again.
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1 hour ago, White Chocolate said:
The key word here is ERASED. It no longer exists to bother anyone so I do not see the point.
(you know where you can put a report if you’re suggesting anything else about it)
Let it be said completely OOC, it's too bad that your unsurprising consistence and persistence across the years is no virtue. You were posting some of the worst clumsy hypocritical crap then, attempting to justify the unjustifiable, it's no surprise that you're still trying the same now, in this instance also selectively quoting my post. Surely the countless nations (players) that were hopelessly raided out of the game thanks to illegal massive tech levels wouldn't be impressed by your defence.
And again, I'm not "suggesting" anything, I rather explicitly made my point, plain and simple: there's no glory in the way Steeldor climbed to the top spots, his nation will be forever stained in my eyes. Think and say about it whatever you wish, I have no interest in further debating the details, that horse died several years ago.
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1 hour ago, Van Hoo X said:
I chuckled. Out loud, even.
That was a good one, +1 to Canik for humour.
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4 hours ago, rabonnobar said:
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What differentiates you from a red-team GPA [...]
This is a rude comparison, if I ever saw one.
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4 hours ago, Banned said:
If you knew your head from your backside, you'd know that Steeldor wasn't using the same tech farms. He was messaging new startup nations to acquire his tech, and often, his temp trades as well. Yeah, yeah, it later came out that a lot of those startup nations turned out to multis, and tech was later erased.
His methods were dirty, for other reasons you haven't even begun to touch on, but absolutely not for the reasons you're trying to insinuate.
Is this supposed to defend Steeldor's glory?
Listen, although I actually like you and the way you go about CN, I have no time or interest to discuss the details of this, even if it's you. Peace.
EDIT: I didn't "insinuate" anything, anyway, I said it, plain and simple.
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4 hours ago, A1ph4 0m3ga said:
In the mean time, we countdown to the first glorious Steeldor nuke. I, for one, cannot wait 🤣
I have nothing negative to say about Steeldor"s interactions with me: in the one or two occasions we had to do one with the other, eons ago, he's been nothing short of a gentleman.
Nonetheless, I never drop an occasion to remind everyone that Steeldor had 64k tech erased for having received it from multies. Heavens know how much other ill-acquired tech he had and still has, how much his now disappeared mates of the time, which had the same tech farms, also had, how much tech and land they could raid also because of that tech, how much money Steeldor then made thanks to all that ill-acquired land, in the following many years.
'Glorious' isn't the word I would choose.
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30 minutes ago, A1ph4 0m3ga said:
All good points. But this war came because 1) DBDC declared war on the entire planet and 2) they openly spied NATO nations.
Their doom allies got thrown in. Minus the Templars, whom until recently, no one knew were also doom. Perhaps a name change is in order to let everyone know.
I wasn't talking of this conflict specifically.
Doom's DoW on the planet didn't change the way they operate, they were already raiding whenever and wherever they thought they could get away with it. At most you can say that their DoW clarified things.
I would have said that the DT was part of Doomsphere.
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7 hours ago, Johnny Apocalypse said:
Ah come on, I'm sure you've been around long enough to see plenty of people try to call a spade something other than a spade if they need people to see a rake. I'm not trying to encourage that, just genuinely surprised to see that not happen.
Fair play to them for trying to end the boredom for once. The thing is though; regardless of the outcome there are deeper factors that contribute to the inertia and boredom that results in years going by with no action and a constantly shrinking population as a result of that. Your declaration is actually an example of a counter to that, it presents an open invitation for things to be more animated around here. That said, I'm not surprised it's taken so long for people to take you up on it, for starters you are all very heavy upper-tiered nations with banks for years which is a considerable deterrent.
Then of course there's the treaty web which you are still bound to that complicates any planning considerably and as you said; there will be consequences if you go about doing it lacking a brain. The web; the many contradictory treaties within it and the resulting incoherent FA policies of most alliances are the primary variables that contribute to the inertia.
How can you plan for a desired victory when all the pieces on the board are effectively on the same side in one way or another?
The evolution of CN is driven by the will of the rulers, no more, no less.
You now have inertia because most of the rulers that remain want to stay inert. The little politics and the even smaller infighting you have are almost exclusively in order to secure a position in which the people involved can then stay inert.
IMHO multiple factors led to this. Among the most prominent ones I put: the mechanics insanely favour seniority, discouraging new players from staying - senior players moved on and get their entertainment somewhere else, but some of them still keep and maintain their nations with no specific goal or ambition (count me among these); some people wanted to climb to the top to then stay there admiring their pixels forever, they could do so also through outright cheating, which wasn't addressed despite multiple occasions to do so, discouraging older competitive players from staying; there's no inbuilt attrition mechanics effectively slowing down or hampering successful nations and groups, and allowing new nations and groups to catch up; war at the top is exceedingly punishing for the weaker side, which inevitably has literally years of development destroyed in a few weeks, while the stronger side is barely scratched, or even gains.
If you think of it, it primarily boils down to a very few things: the tech deals dynamics, the tech damage WRC bonus, lack of feedback mechanisms (downsides) for land.
You can continue to complain about inertia for years and until you are out of voice, we're exactly where the mechanics and the (lack of) policing brought us, and we're not going anywhere else.
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There goes the neighborhood.
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6 hours ago, firingline said:
Yes, we get it. You're in Polar.
You have no idea how many people need to be repeated stuff over and over (and over) before they get it, and you have no idea how many never anyway get it, neither you have an idea of why you have no idea in the first place.
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On 6/19/2022 at 7:47 AM, Thrash said:
BLEU 2.0?
A lot of memories, really a lot.
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21 hours ago, Master Hakai said:
Don’t make me fight you for two days again
You're only jealous.
I didn't take part in the actual fighting with Kushmir but the rest was pretty a good experience.
We can have nice things and still and stuff.
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Hakai is the only ruler whose posts you can truly enjoy even though you painfully hate him with passion.
(You don't really need to painfully hate him with passion, but if you do you can still...
etc, let's not be too didactic.)
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On 5/18/2022 at 7:25 AM, Regent Talryn said:
I had 75,000 troops and my citizens were happy.
I bought 25,000 troops. My citizens were happy.
I deployed the new troops. My nation went into anarchy.
Why?
When deploying did you get any warning?
My nation has 0 troops and my citizens are "happy" (not completely happy, but no anarchy). If I bought 100 soldiers and deployed 1 soldier my nation would go into anarchy.
AFAIK deploying (or disbanding) your soldiers triggers a check on your soldiers count, if it's too low you get anarchy, which basically works as an event: after three days you can switch to another government without having to buy any soldier first. You don't go into anarchy unless something reduces your soldier count.
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7 hours ago, Knights of the Grail said:
I absolutely love this style, it reminds me of... really too many years ago, when undoubtedly most of you hadn't even been born.
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That's an excellent flag, good work there.
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On 5/5/2022 at 3:29 AM, White Chocolate said:
Any dictator worthy of the name is not going to limit him or herself to moralistic concepts like fairness. It’s not fear. It’s about power.
Going back to this (just out of boredom) I'll point out that dictatorships can be and, quite often, are absolutely moralistic, at least in appearance.
Fairness in international warfare is irrational, not moralistic. In fact it's even quite immoral, in that a national government finding itself at war, arguably has the moral obligation to maximize the damage dealt to damage taken ratio. Anything else would be folly and a betrayal of their own people.
If instead CN was a sport then, yes, fairness in war would make sense.
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I can respect the effort made to present it, though the treaty itself is pretty standard (no offence meant), but professional at least.
The conversation is admittedly more entertaining, or enough it anyway, and I didn't yawn this far!
No ground has been broken, it's not like anyone took any significant risk... sometimes I wish you all treaty junkies went neutral, for a change. But who am I to ask?
Congrats etc.
Name This War Thread - DOOM - FTW/NATO War
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