Sir Keshav IV

The distinct lack of countries such as India/ Pakistan/ Bangladesh is sad to see. Definitely have the finest national anthems. Also the German national anthem is up there too. <= Indian National Anthem <= Pakistan National Anthem

Congratulations on becoming Ai's new attacktorate

Death to Mia! This is definitely interesting

DAWN had some good folks D:

Damn I'm allied to you folks [img]http://forums.cybernations.net/public/style_emoticons/default/dry.gif[/img]

This has lonewolfe so it must be good. Best of luck folks!

[quote name='Scorponok' timestamp='1345146603' post='3022486'] Pansy, looks like we get Keshy after all... Get your arse into gear Ai. Or alternatively, Pacifica stop aiding your own nations [/quote] When was this deal made [img]http://forums.cybernations.net/public/style_emoticons/default/unsure.gif[/img]

To war! [img]http://forums.cybernations.net/public/style_emoticons/default/awesome.gif[/img]

Congrats Laz and Tron :3

[img]http://forums.cybernations.net/public/style_emoticons/default/awesome.gif[/img] Congrats folks xD

[quote name='supercoolyellow' timestamp='1343015456' post='3013443'] Bud, you've always had the weakness of pride, and that pride is allowing you to rationalize the decisions your alliance has made. Your post here is a perfect example by way of the wrong headed arguments you make to justify your past.[/quote] Bud was probably Val's best Vice Regent who worked his ass off for a couple of years to take Valhalla out of the Karma mess and move us forward. Never once has his pride come in the way of making decisions that Val needed to be done to move forward in one direction. [quote]Who were the allies you had on the other side? Now list the allies that were on MCXA's side.[/quote] It doesn't matter. We weren't going to enter that mess and you knew that when you went in. To get rolled and then whine we left you out cold is stupid. That was our direction and we made it clear to every ally including DT/NoR/Olympus/SNAFU/ML and anyone else who got into that war. Further it was a conscious decision by most of DR ( at that point I believe BAPS/IRON/TORN/Val) sat out while ML activated their treaty with TPF and not the DR treaty. They knew where DR as a whole stood and respected it. Interesting fact though, after that war none of our allies were whining at our lack of support apart from MCXA [quote]As was explained to me you guys were upset that NPO treatied an ally of yours, and did not come talk to you. In other words your issues with NPO were a bruised and petty ego.[/quote] I do believe we sat out that war because of Polar and not Pacifica. Pretty sure that was our reason and it wasn't because of Pacifica ( I've stated Polaris always though if you have logs to show any gov member saying otherwise feel free to inbox it to me ) [quote]MCXA never received any aid.[/quote] Did you send us a list? I'm pretty certain we aid dropped a few allies afterwards including BTA and paid of some of DT's reps I think. [quote]Valhalla seamed to be the only alliance that has ever looked at a non-chaining clause and decided it would be its first inclination to use it to avoid war, and coincidentally you found this new attitude towards your non chaining clauses in a war you would have likely lost.[/quote] Its hilarious that you think Valhalla was scared of losing. We weren't. We did fight Bi-Polar and Karma and the former really cemented our direction for the next war. We weren't going to fight on the same side of Polaris ever again and we followed that. That was our choice as an alliance and we followed it through. [quote]I don't buy it, I don't think this is about someone laying groundwork, or slates becoming clean. I think it is because now you stand to gain from a new relationship with NPO while in the past you had a new attitude that allowed you to save your alliance damage and leave out "friends" out in the field to burn.[/quote] Actually sometime last year NPO got us on their boards and we did sort out of most of our issues including having their former Emperor apologizing to us for the incidents of Karma and we decided to put that behind and work on a NPO relationship. That mess was cleaned up on Val's side. Val had no problem with NPO and when we merged with Oly/BAPS/BTA and the NPO review came up for discussion ( I wouldn't be privvy to all the tri discussions over this ) but I'm pretty sure the treaty was discussed as any other treaty is currently being discussed at the Gov level [quote]You might want to think of things as a dichotomy between the past and future, but the past is what we look to learn, and see the actions that define the people around us. Instead of seeing things as the past or as progress I choose to see things as virtuous, honorable, or lacking thereof. I'm not questioning Valhalla's honor, I'm denying its existence. I don't think you suddenly had a change of heart about Pacifica, I think two years ago you found a way to weasel yourself out of a war, and this treaty just revealed what had happened in the past.[/quote] Valhalla has more honour than you folks, thats for sure and Valhalla sure as hell doesn't need your approval on whether that honour exists or not. Also this treaty was discussed between Ai and NPO and Valhalla's opinions had 0 influence because she doesn't exist anymore

[quote name='Timberland' timestamp='1342847309' post='3012847'] Congrats guys on the treaty 2 alliances I like [/quote] ( In reply to the TORN treaty ) [size="2"][color="#333333"][font="arial, helvetica, clean, sans-serif"][left]Baby you light up my world like nobody else[/left][/font][/color][color="#333333"][font="arial, helvetica, clean, sans-serif"][left]The way that you flip your hair gets me overwhelmed[/left][/font][/color][color="#333333"][font="arial, helvetica, clean, sans-serif"][left]But when you smile at the ground it aint hard to tell[/left][/font][/color][color="#333333"][font="arial, helvetica, clean, sans-serif"][left]You don't know[/left][/font][/color][/size][color="#333333"][font="arial, helvetica, clean, sans-serif"][size="2"][left]Oh oh[/left][/size][/font][/color][size="2"][color="#333333"][font="arial, helvetica, clean, sans-serif"][left]You don't know you're beautiful [/left][/font][/color][/size] [size="2"][color="#333333"][font="arial, helvetica, clean, sans-serif"][left] [/left][/font][/color][/size] [size="2"][color="#333333"][font="arial, helvetica, clean, sans-serif"][left] [/left][/font][/color][/size] [size="2"][color="#333333"][font="arial, helvetica, clean, sans-serif"][left]Also this is a very interesting treaty o/ [/left][/font][/color][/size]

Its Friday, call me maybe? TORN Good to see this

I'd tap IRON all day Glad to see this Also hi Mia

Welcome to Ai BTA

NPO you're next

Corporations are people too! o/ AI

This is a sad day tbh, I finally settled down and counted this alliance as home o/ Valhalla

Have fun IRON

Destroy em tio

Technically not white peace but shameful to see tR exit this way

Congrats DT

Eh my comment was more at mompson Coming to your point I guess there are alliances with ambition and some who are fine with where they are. They tend to be moved like chess pieces only because they lack the ambition to become a mover. Now that could be because they don't want to be one or they have leaders without it. That's just how this game has always been I guess.

Eh Morals play a role only to a certain extent I believe, it's more the interests of the alliance first. I pretty much agree with that.

Have fun o/ NoR