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And the total of all the nations within the total of all the alliances was pretty darn close to equal numbers especially when you consider LE was already beaten down from 2 factors, one having to go to a war footing too early due to intelligence showing OP was planning to attack or goad LE into a war and LE letting OP blitz us. Remember the 5 to 1 odds you guys held at the start? I suppose OP preferred the 5 to 1 advantage instead of the almost 1 to 1 odds it faced after all the nations piled in? Please stop crying about the friends that made this a very equal war. OP should consider itself lucky that RE didn't dogpile you guys considering they were the first choice of your members to hit at the start and hey, if I were them, I would think we can't beat OP with numbers but we can sure try and drag them down under us by joining the war. It is TE right?

Good luck Folger,,major mojo on the way <S>alute

Conveniently Jim (may I call you Jim?) you love to spin this so it looks like OP was a victim yet again. How sad that although stated by you, you still fail to realize your comments in that exposed thread were the PRIMARY reason LE reacted as we have. Why an alliance 5 times our size needs to try so hard to convince the TE public that you were not the aggressor in this I believe probably has worked opposite for you. Considering this is TE you really don't have to explain your reasons for war. And the whole poor OP having to face 9 alliances alone. Considering your 5 to 1 advantage basically reduced LE to the equivalent of about a 30 nation alliance and had no hope of winning. Then alliances on their own accord decide to take on the new bully on the street and when you look at the numbers it was almost even IF every nation of all the alliances took part in this war. And we know that didn't happen, don't we? Could you please kindly drop this insane waste of forum space trying to explain something you have no explanation for and nor a reason to go to war in a war game.

Read between the lines dude, too bad you guys don't have ballz to state the obvious.

Nice try Jim (can I call you Jim?) The spy attacks against LE started before Nov. 8 and on or before 12:37am we started to get reports of spy attacks on our nations reported in our forums. To: ************** From: Unknown Sender Date: 11/8/2009 5:12:37 AM Subject: Spy Operation Attack Message: A spy operation has been launched against your nation. In the attack the enemy spies targeted your technology and managed to destroy 6 technology levels. Your attacker was able to return home unharmed and unidentified. To: ************** From: Unknown Sender Date: 11/8/2009 5:12:23 AM Subject: Spy Operation Attack Message: A spy operation has been launched against your nation. In the attack the enemy spies targeted your technology and managed to destroy 6 technology levels. Your attacker was able to return home unharmed and unidentified. And the sanctions were placed at this time. A full 22 hours after spy attacks were reported in our forums. Nov 8 2009, 10:55 PM Post #1 Since Blue Team decided to employ sanctions as protection for Blue members, we'll do the same. Being OP is blue, we'd like all OP member to move off Black Team. Effective immediately, we'll sanction any OP found on Black Team. Salute! Fish And then there was the infamous leaked post on Nov. 05 where you are caught red handed preferring to "Exterminate" LE and that post was dated Oct. 25. Considering you are the "Grand Master" and have final say of who you will "exterminate" Jim (may I call you Jim?) Sounds a little suspicious to me,, how about you? If it was the other way around what would you be thinking at this point in time? I will also point out in that leaked post how your members are openly discussing spying nukes away which happens to be exactly what happened to LE almost a full day before the Senators placed sanctions. As for LE choosing this path,, man you should know us better then that. If we really did want to start a war we would have blitzed with or without friends and our spy attacks would have been about the same time as the blitz. LE would not have tipped its hands so easily. And I love how your members are trying to not only defeat LE nations but are pushing for ZI. Now you complained about the sanctions disrupting trades but I can just imagine all the re-rolls are going to have a much bigger effect across several alliances. Wonder how they are going to feel about your mighty alliance now? I was down to less then 10 infra but your members keep sending bombers? nice touch Jim (may I call you Jim?) hope you are repaid the same way 10 fold.

Good catch there Thrax, ok is there any doubt now about who was taking our nukes?? Tell us again how LE was being the aggressive alliance again.

Little more appropriate if you ask me You got another thing coming - Judas Priest

This whole who was the aggressor thing is getting old. From my viewpoint First we had the publicly displayed poll direct from OP openly discussing which alliance to roll. First off the fact that you openly displayed the word "roll" is showing total disrespect to any of the alliances on that list. Then your fearless leaders direct comment about his choice would be LE due to past experiences. Aggressive move OP Second, shortly after that poll became public LE nukes started to be spied away. Even though we have no proof I haven't seen one other alliance speak up and say it was them. agressive move OP? Third, LE feels threatened and moves to a defensive posture directly from the 2 above reasons. My own collections went from over $200 per day to just over $100.00. The move from nation building to war footing based upon information we were reading and possible pre attack spy ops taking place against us. Not aggressive move LE Fourth, LE senators decide to sanction OP nations on Black. If your alliance is anything like ours this could have been simply resolved by them moving to Blue and re-establishing their trades. Sure it might have hurt them financially for a day but I am sure they wouldn't have lost over half of their income as we did. aggressive maybe but easily resolved fifth, first blood, OP attacks both LE senators with 6 combined attacks (Aggressive move OP) sixth, LE retaliates by taking some nukes away from an alliance that was showing they were ready to "roll" us and were already attacking LE members. defensive move LE seventh, OP launches full out assault on an alliance 1/5 its size. Aggressive move OP Eighth, its TE, lets battle and have fun and don't whine because the fight is getting fairer and fairer every time another alliance joins in. <S> LE and our friends, never give up!

The British and the Americans didn't totally trust the Russians during WW2 but they united for the better good of the world to defeat the Axis powers. Does that help clarify why these alliances have joined in on the same side?

Welcome to the bout KIWIS <S>alute!

Nice to have MHA in on this one. The five OP nations I was in war with for the last 3 days finally put me into anarchy. But even anarchy I destroyed another 150 infra from my attackers and one has already sent me an offer for peace,, told him I could not accept his surrender at this time. <S>alute MHA

Surrrender Terms??? I just want to go on record as stating in no way, shape or form is LE in a position to start taking in prisoners from OP at this point in time.

Charge of the Light Brigade,,, nice touch and fitting too. Welcome to our friends in WAPA <S>alute

After several posts from OP showing their keen interest in "rolling" LE then all of sudden Nukes started to disappear from LE's stockpile. Considering OP's open comments about "which alliance to roll and LE appearing to be at the top of the list with specific comments from the leader / grand master of OP that he would love to roll LE because of LE's kicking his butt in past rounds. I firmly believe that OP intended to force LE into a conflict. If they want to use the sanctions as an excuse then I will say that forcing LE to go from nation building stance to a war stance is in effect the same thing as sanctioning an alliance. As for the stealing nukes even though LE has no proof it is firmly believed it was OP taking them based on their own comments posted publicly in these forums. And you still think LE was the aggressor in this, I would say LE recognized that our backs were against a wall and responded as anyone would expect LE to do so.

What did you expect when you grew an alliance to over double the largest alliance. At least LE keeps membership under 100 so that we can battle fairly. Seeing as you added as I replied I will address that as well. There were numerous posts from your "super" alliance stating which alliance you should roll first. Think of the bully in the school yard who says to the smaller kids "which one should I punch out first" ABSOLUTELY you guys were throwing your weight around aka bullying. And your whole concept of wanting to keep short "fun" wars back in TE. So I suppose your idea of fun is crushing alliances 1/5 your size? If you truly wanted to just have some fun wars you would have kept your alliance to a manageable size. Even with 400 nations you have bitten off a little more then you can handle with LE.

Bravo OP for hitting an alliance 1/5 your size.. my only question to you.. did you find an alliance to help you "roll LE" yet? Or are you really going to go on a limb and try to take them on 1 on 1 or is that 5 on 1. Personally OP smells a lot like WOLF to me. I am going to laugh at your alliance when it is in ruins all 400 of you who thought you could bully the rest of TE with your shear size. I wont loose any sleep over a few pixels lost here and there. Bring it on, let loose the dogs of war. And Elbo you are like a woman spurned,,the only time you have ever held any prestige in this game was when the core of LE was winning wars for you with Murder Inc.

Agree as well, seems like a no brainer to me if the software supports this. It could also be a 22 or 26 hour day to speed up the changes in reset time zones.

No one is too "chicken!@#$" except the member alliances in the bloc as they are too weak and cowardly to stand on their own in this version of Cybernations where your nation is reset every 60 days. And we don't need a bloc to pick you guys apart, just plain good organization. You guys have done TE no favours, your attempt to control TE will fail miserably for you.

And with 2500 members to be called in and vote, I suspect at the end of the day this poll will turn out in favour of the Bloc. Not surprised that the first voters are showing non-approval though.

And herein lays the problem, if TPF were to attack LE the bloc would just watch from the sidelines, BUT whats the situation if LE does the attack?? Oh yeah, LE would be free to be attacked from what roughly,,2500 members of the bloc??? If you can't see that an issue exists, then it proves that a Bloc is not for the betterment of the game but for the sole purpose of personal gain by certain members.

Wow, I took this round off and was planning on returning for the next round but with an idiotic "bloc" in TE I might as well just say forget it and watch the paint dry on the walls it would be more fun in the long run. Does LE have you guys so nervous you had to recruit half of TE into a "mutual defence pact"??? I suggest if the bloc is what you need to survive in this version of Cybernations then maybe the "Bloc" should stay in SE and guard those precious pixels! TE is not for you. note: bloc is very appropriate name as in blockheads for whoever came up with the lamest dumbest idea in TE so far.

Heard he died from food poisoning, apparently he had some 12 year old nuts! For the MJ fans, sorry but the guy was a fruit loop. His music as stated above when he was black was good and it was entertaining but somewhere along the way that guy totally lost touch with reality.

The part that gets me is if the word is on the un-admissible list then why was it over looked in so many previous uses in these forums? It was acceptable then and now it isn't? I would have to say that I have personally seen far more vulgar names used for nation names and rulers including references to Nazi's which is a big no go in any international game. Ah well,, lets see how the mods deal with this from this point on.

Actually Ferrie, what I understood from his post was, he wondered if we had a spy amongst us providing us with false info. Not that we were spying (not game spying) on other alliances because Liz was making preparations for a mass attack against us.

Darn Liz,,, now we are going to look like twins, thought we agreed,, you were getting the canary yellow one or did BG beat you to it????