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JonAce

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  1. o/ NATO o/ peace o/ MK mercy Good fight.
  2. o/ NATO o/ R&R o/ Getting nuked I never liked shrooms.
  3. There goes my individual support. [u]NATO's overall position remains unchanged.[/u]
  4. [quote name='ktarthan' timestamp='1328049366' post='2911830'] That's not necessary at all, and this is a stupid argument. It's already implicit that if you disobey your alliance's founding document that you're liable to be expelled from the alliance and have your nation destroyed. [/quote] Well, I guess most of RoK should be expelled then, sent to more deserving alliances, and Joe/Bob can have the shell of what's left. [quote name='Megamind' timestamp='1328049533' post='2911831'] How about we just use this line: The final decision, in all matters, will be decided by the Emperor. Does that hold weight enough? [/quote] Not when the majority of membership thinks otherwise and acts on it. [quote name='Megamind' timestamp='1328050233' post='2911844'] Yes? But unless I'm reading what JonAce wrote wrong, what he is arguing is that the RoK charter lacks a way to deal with people trying to overthrow the legitimate government. [/quote] You're reading correctly.
  5. [quote name='ktarthan' timestamp='1328047355' post='2911800'] Right, but you [i]literally[/i] just said that there's nothing in the charter that prevents the membership from overthrowing the Emperor. That's false. If they follow the charter then it's not possible. If they don't follow the charter, then how do they call themselves Ragnarok? [/quote] Having a line in the charter as simple as "Any calls for the Emperor to be removed forcefully by any Ragnarok member will be met with extreme force" could have cleared up any ambiguity. Just calling the Emperor position a lifetime position doesn't hold enough weight if you don't have consequences to those who would seek to usurp. I agree with calling RoK's allianceship(?) into question. Adel and co. need to overhaul the government before it's too late. They need a new charter.
  6. [quote name='ktarthan' timestamp='1328046572' post='2911789'] The charter lists the Emperor (as well as Regent and Vice-Regent) as lifetime positions. This directly contradicts what you're trying to claim. [/quote] I know that, but the RoK membership ignored their own charter, which makes the charter unenforceable, worthless, and by the looks of it, no longer void. How can you run an alliance when the majority of the membership doesn't comply?
  7. I guess I'll throw my 2 cents in, I haven't said much on OWF. Ignoring anything that occurred before the coup, and going on what [url=http://cybernations.wikia.com/wiki/Charter_of_Ragnarok]this[/url] says (and it's probably outdated, but it's all I've got at this moment), there is nothing forbidding the RoK membership from overthrowing the Emperor. Joe and Bob have a logical claim as leaders of RoK if you assume RoK is a monarchy or oligarchy. Since they've been ousted by their own membership, they can claim leadership all they want, but unless the majority of RoK's remaining members even want a Joe/Bob leadership, they're SOOL. Chalk all of this up to a poorly written charter, a poor choice of government, and poor FA decisions (that is, if the RoK membership overthrew Joe/Bob because of such decisions). I stand by my alliance in supporting RoK's membership and recognize Adel as the new leader of RoK. However, I fear RoK's time may be up shortly.
  8. NATO's streak goes poof next update.
  9. [size="5"][b]ALL SLOTS CLOSED. THANK YOU EVERYONE![/b][/size]
  10. [size="5"][b]2 slots open[/b][/size]
  11. [s]Shoot me a message if you'd like to start a tech deal. If you'd like a long-term deal, mention it in your message. [size="5"][b]4 slots open[/b][/size][/s] [b] CLOSED.[/b]
  12. Last call for the last slot!
  13. Just shoot me a message and I'll send the money. [s][b]4 slots open[/b][/s] [s][b]3 slots open[/b][/s] [s][b]2 slots open[/b][/s] [s][b]1 slot open[/b][/s] [b]Thanks to all who messaged me![/b]
  14. Iron / Gold I'm in. http://www.cybernations.net/nation_drill_display.asp?Nation_ID=198835
  15. -snip- Whoops. Tabbed browsing.
  16. Nation Ruler: JonAce Nation Link: http://www.cybernations.net/nation_drill_d...ation_ID=198835 Resource 1: Iron Resource 2: Gold Preferred Circle: Any Need Uranium? No.
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