Brehon

There is no reason to bring up another world [ooc]game[/ooc] here. It has no place. So I am asking you NOT to bring drivel from another place, non CN, and make it a part of our political landscape.

So why even put this? I never would have thought you were mocking until you decided to point out not that you aren't, but you don't care if we don't like it. That is a FANTASTIC FA stance for your opening. I wish you whatever you deserve.

US you can keep my alliance's name out of your mouth. Kaskus if you have an issue involving NPO do not send Smurf, we will not acknowledge him as government.

There were no threats Marx. But its all fine. Keep doing what you do.

I know exactly who attacked who first. Its not even a question for me or for you. You may stand down on your grandstand and busting my chops. Now if I need to take it a step further for the new GOONS strike on my nation or the little TOP supported ghost/rogue etc... I am sure you will all let me know, wont you :) Marx if you don't like the clerical clean up, you will get over it. However if there is more to this, do let me know :)

If you see it as retaliation, then you have no real question do you?

GOONS I think you should talk to your pilot before you bark at me.

I respect you 100% for defending your ally. This is simply what war is. As a leading alliance in the coalition if I am asked to spread my coverage to another alliance, simply put I will. There are caveats but I wont be going into those at this time. o/ to all combatants. note: I have no desire to run anyone from the game.

Declaration of War on Mortal Wombat & War Update The New Pacific Order declares itself in a state of war with Mortal Wombat in support of the Equilibrium Coalition. Additionally, in our [url=[url=http://forums.cybernations.net/index.php?/topic/114834-never-bring-an-umbrella-to-a-gun-fight/][url=http://forums.cybernations.net/index.php?/topic/114834-never-bring-an-umbrella-to-a-gun-fight/][url=http://forums.cybernations.net/index.php?/topic/114834-never-bring-an-umbrella-to-a-gun-fight/][url=http://forums.cybernations.net/index.php?/topic/114834-never-bring-an-umbrella-to-a-gun-fight/][url=http://forums.cybernations.net/index.php?/topic/114834-never-bring-an-umbrella-to-a-gun-fight/]http://forums.cybernations.net/index.php?/topic/114834-never-bring-an-umbrella-to-a-gun-fight/[/url][/url][/url][/url][/url] initial Declaration of War in conjunction with Ai, IRON, TIO and NATO we made our intentions regarding warfare coverage clear. This is a coalition war and in accordance with that, we have done what was appropriate for coalition war, giving coverage where we could and where we were needed. As such we are in a number of conflicts that we consider declared under that initial declaration and have not been separately identified. But for those with a vested interest in the technicalities and the paperwork, this is a good opportunity for us to set the record straight. The New Pacific Order currently considers itself in a recognized state of war with the following alliances: Mortal Wombat - Umbrella - Viridian Entente - Deinos - as well as ANY and ALL of the ad hoc AA's in which members of Umbrella have jumped to (DOOMBIRD DOOMCAVE, Darkfall and etc). This does not limit us in any way from increasing or decreasing our coverage of war as our coalition requires. Good luck and happy warring to all parties. o/ Brehon, Emperor of the New Pacific Order Sword of the Order Bakamitai, Imperial Regent of the New Pacific Order Judicator of the Order

Our kill zone was never 100-80k. Ever. People here may have spouted that, but not a single planner looked at 100-80k and went OMG that is where we want all of Umbrella (DH et al), lets make it happen. I am simply boggled by the sheer about of bad data you all take as the gospel. /boggle. As a side note, I know its fun to make reference to Q with the rhetoric against my side and to call your side Competence (really EQ people you are okay with calling them Competence? /shakes head). The fact is; if there was that level of competence you would have put a muzzle on Umbrella. You know and I know it. You are simply DH. You predicted your future in your own name and lived up to it.

Because I get sick to death of various posters being able to post whatever they want without recourse or rebuttal.

This is true. I have shared those frustrations about Umbrella with all that have asked about it or anyone allied to me. I have also made it clear I have no real issues with MK. As I stated in another thread, MK did it right and retreated from starting shit or claiming responsibility for shit started by their allies.

This is so silly. This btw is the comments of those with the highest chance to leave the war. Looking at the alliances on both sides, even with my history with TOP, they are about as far from the first ones to drop as one can be. No, TOP will do what TOP does and that is fight for the side they chose. To say otherwise is really ignoring so many factors. I will simply say I disagree with the lists offered completely. That is a very good analysis Shinra I have to give it to you for that.

Caliph the goals in this war have never changed. Those of you side bar analyzing it have simply missed your mark. And I have to say, this is no crusade, this is no morality fight, this is just war. I know Umbrella is overall unfamiliar with it, but that is all it is :)

That isn't being a petulant child. Missing a subtle remark, in this case, is because I look at the poster and I know just how terrible he is. That isn't based on anger or anything of the like (your knowledge of what a "petulant child" means is severely lacking... don't worry I expect you to dictionary.com it now and drop its meaning). Its about knowing how the poster posts and knowing he (read you) typically posts in a moronic fashion with so little knowledge of the actual CN world; I find you simply to be the sum of your posts.

I would prefer you all kept me out of your mouths. If you want to know, ask me in private. I will not make a show of it here.

Its is ;) That plus I have a face for Radio :) Fuck you Myth LOL

I don't know. I always have had a strange way of writing things out etc. What I was saying is "Has power been abused? The answer is yes it has."

I hate you all lol

Why anyone in todays age would talk about disbanding an alliance needs to be smacked. Thought everyone was done with that kind of crap? After all isn't that what wars in the past were about, stopping people from being able to apply that kind of pressure. Damned fools.

Sooo cute :)

Nope not that either. NPO and Kaskus signing paper... no.

Sorry Keno, that will not happen.

Ahh fair enough Ronny, as usual I missed that part :) I am all about some war :)

So I made a general statement about umbrella, specified it and you decided to take it personal and use your nation as the counter. Had you said every Umbrella nation was dong that, you would be in the right argument (or even the majority). You didn't therefore your comment is reduced to chest puffing. I am not the masses you can leave that at home. You single nation counter (even if 5 more post it, until we see that more than 50% (and I am being generous by saying 50%) of you 97 nations (yes I am not even remotely bothered by your alliance hoping) or the 138 (if I remember right) nations of that time could show they were active and lifting in wars, then yes I would have to take back my comments and here is a surprise, I would. I have no issues admitting when I am wrong. However, saying all of that, the fact remains, Umbrella as a whole hasn't been challenged and hasn't lifted in a war with the actual nations (because you aiding isn't the same) in a long time. In fact you paced yourselves to NOT have to deal with it in that way. Am I saying that is wrong? Absolutely not. I am saying that doesn't automatically make you some nation making machine of brilliance. Until you are tested in similar ways other powers have been tested and are able to maintain your building path and pace, you have no claim to make. The NPO didn't avoid war and to say that is simply stupid. We were at 12m(approx) NS and had a top tier of approximately 45 nations (and we aren't talking an Umbrella level of top tier as you stated). During that war we lost 6.7m NS BEFORE the top tier was given as a peace term. We had to put in nations that were those bankers (and our bankers are those that are not active, just come on a few times a month but are still part of our community) we were dropped to 4.3m NS. Aka dropped to 1/4th or our strength almost to the level we couldn't mathematically drop further simply due to the amount of nations we had. 3 rounds where we had to ONLY fight the largest nations you had to offer because MK wouldn't match us on the PM. ADDITIONALLY since you want to bring it up, NPO had less than 20% of the alliance in PM compared to 40% for DH across the board. That war and that peace term was an abuse of power based on fear we would counter against you in the future or be allowed to continue to grow. If that isn't fear, what was it? Vengeance because you didn't get what you wanted out of Karma (Umbrella words during peace, not my own). Tell me again how losing that much NS is avoiding war? Are you trying to say you were looking to run us out of the game? So if that is the case are you saying Umbrella has indeed been lying about their intentions, poking, prodding and etc? Are we finally hearing the truth? You tell me. Additionally if we weren't fighting and simply crashing into MK and GOONS, why were you blowing 25 billion in aid and bragging how you could do it without breaking a sweat? Where was that damage coming from, just our allies? Well than that negates the comments made about how nations on "this" side have been avoiding wars. Pick your stance, pick your argument but make sure you run at least consistent.