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[quote name='DerekJones' date='01 March 2010 - 03:01 AM' timestamp='1267427070' post='2209675'] Exactly what I've been saying I know some treaties carried over, which is by extension a recognition of the coup by other alliances. But, in terms of the membership, hard to say if they've accepted this new government as legitimate. Obviously losing over a quarter of your membership base in a week plus the public outrage from members doesn't speak well in favor of the coup. It seems people who are openly against it are just leaving rather than voicing their opinions. But, considering it's a change to a charter that all members, regardless of rank or position, are asked to abide by when joining, it seems like they should have a say in whether or not this new government should be accepted. Considering that a vote took place towards replacing the government and it failed when put to membership, it was a pretty classless move by the perpetrators of the coup to basically pull a Father Knows Best maneuver on the members. Hopefully any respectful member of the Grand Global Alliance that's left will either leave or stand up against this. In my opinion, forcing yourselves into leadership killed the legitimacy of your so-called noble campaign to fix the alliance, and the only way that the alliance at this point could recover itself at all is through its members taking the initiative instead of a few people making a power grab. Oh and for the record, Roy Mustang's justification for the coup regardless of the vote against it because the discussion was concentrated more on personal attacks against Dementual and Roy is a pretty lame excuse. [/quote] The truthiness here is why DerekJones is nominated for GGA Emperor. Honestly, this all started when he retired and now has come to a head. People who have left and are trying ro rebuild a better version, keep in mind the mistakes of the past. Members still in GGA who want to help fix (though I doubt any read these threads, or do more then collect taxes daily) things have an opportunity here. Either assist the new triumvirate or start your own forum, as that is all that is needed to make yourself the leaders. I even saw a thread where people such as Bilrow can help you with forums. Dementual and Roy may very well save the GGA, and I do hope they do, but rather then living in days strolling in daisy fields, it would be super awesome cool fun if this reunion thread was closed and people got off their collective @#$% and did something. For my part, I am going to work on DerekJones.GGA.com forums to see some of my moronic post be more than poor lip service.

[quote name='Jonathan Brookbank' date='22 February 2010 - 05:15 PM' timestamp='1266873329' post='2197793'] As far as my hostility towards the GGA goes, it was not towards the alliance nor the membership, but to the continuing cycle of bad leaders. Also, you will not be kicked for your post. I am not sure who banned you from #GGA, but I have removed said ban. In fact, in the interest of full disclosure, I'm just going to tell everyone here: Andre is a liar. I am extremely interested in what the members have to say, which is why I have spent today and last night talking individually to members. I attempted to do the same with him, to which he replied he would not talk to me and resigned from the alliance. So make your own judgments on him based on the true facts of the situation. [/quote] I know Andre some from my time in GGA, he isn't a timid person, rather a hard working member who filled many posts. Calling him a liar is interesting, I would love to see your recruitment messages. Do tell us how you will keep the remaining members of GGA from resigning. The last coup only cost a few hundred, barely 65% left.

[quote name='theArrowheadian' date='22 February 2010 - 12:28 PM' timestamp='1266856126' post='2197369'] Derek Jones for Supreme Ruler of GGA [/quote] more truthiness was never uttered. Dementual, while I don't know you, I wish you the best of luck, and JB has the activity and dedication GGA needs.

Irony is wasted on so many for the enjoyment of so few...but this is a time for meyer and the others to be proud. Good luck guys, you have a good core going.

can i play find the spelling/grammar errors? edit: forgot to say welcom to all my friends

congrats guys omg lig lives

Wow, I am glad Athens came to me, or KFH and asked about this to get both sides. Never did I say I would reenter the war or fight against Athens and Karma. I did talk to some allies of GGA including NPO (before shane ended the treaty) and I did ask who they supported. I believe moo was responding to the peace terms we received from Athens about gov members leaving in those logs and expecting KungFuHamster and I to be kicked. As it stands neither of us left the GGA, we simply were banned from posting on the forums, given limited access to the forums, and removed from GGAs irc channels. For Athens I have a good amount of respect, you even have a member I will call a friend. As for you choosing who to recognize as the leaders, that is your right. As for me I would rather fight and loose infra against enemies I know then be stabbed in the back by people I trust.

amazing, I thought we made this post before the war started along with many allies

It has been a little while, I was wondering if an answer was coming or just see if this would be left to die out.

but you have the answers right? I mean you know what I want so i assume...

can you tell me why i was couped?

12 hours, no response, sooner or later GGA will have to answer how and why these actions occurred.

I am holding all other comments until shaneprice posts the explanation here. Please refrain from making me laugh with posts like this. Seriously I spit coffee on my screen laughing. That is hardly professional.

I never thought I would see the day where I get support from EG and DerekJones, I think that might say something about this move.

Then maybe someone could show me how KFH and I were ousted other then saying there is a precedent. I am vocal when i need to be and only then. For now ignoring the charter, kicking me from all irc channels, removing my posting rights and then access to the forums, I would say the coup of GGA is complete. The only funny part is now I hear degenerate stepped down too. As it stands now this is the only way I can speak, though it is nice at least one member of GGA reads these things.

When you own the forums anything you do is legal, the charter is just an afterthought that slows progress.

again you people are missing it, degenerate is a pawn controlled by someone else i got a shiny nickle if you can guess who

I don't think you people understand, degenerate is not to blame and has done nothing wrong. The power behind GGA has nothing to do with NPO and certainly nothing to do with toadies.

stay tuned, more to come also i shot the easter bunny, im a bad mofo

No, he can't be since he quit...wait, shaneprice quit, now the logic confuses me, guess I am drunk again, no if DJ returned he would be an elder, but he quit, but ironchef quit, stop arguing with me, go to hell, no you, stop drinking, your an $@!, now I can see why they kicked you, ect

It pains me but it seems I still have friends and don't want to walk out on them. KFH is one of the best people an alliance could have, and I wish he was around to defend himself, but I have no issue taking up the flag for him.

dispite many offers I received during my rants on irc, I don't plan to just jump ship...I know, I'm an idiot

chicken, I love you you sick twisted !@#$%^&

I was talked to, and told I don't need to know what I did and that it is too late, welcome to the all new GGA

No 1 tri and 3 elders were allowed to vote, why, i dont know, I dont even know what I am accused of. Maybe someone from GGA gov can answer that.