CBray Posted October 25, 2010 Report Share Posted October 25, 2010 [center][img]http://i188.photobucket.com/albums/z35/Canik173/FEARFlagNT.jpg[/img] After a long time together the members of FEAR have seen fit to cancel the 'Where there's smoke, there's fire' treaty signed on the 19th Feb 2009. The 72 hours notice were given at 6pm on the 20th October 2010 and has now elapsed. Reasons for the cancellation basically boils to a lack of communication for a long time now that both sides were guilty of, as such it was deemed surplus to requirement and has been cut out from our treaty list. This decision was not taken lightly as we've enjoyed many moons together, but a treaty cannot be kept simply because it's been around for quite a decent amount of time. We have no hard feelings for TPF, we still have friends within TPF and wish them all the best in the future, however the level of treaty no longer reflects the level of communication and closeness between our two alliances. I leave you with a video to hopefully cheer you all up on such a sad day. [url="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eOHAUvbuV4o"]Click here to cheer yourself up[/url] CBray External Chancellor Fellowship of Elite Allied Republics[/center] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hilowe Posted October 25, 2010 Report Share Posted October 25, 2010 Best of luck to our friends in FEAR. I'm sure this was not an easy decision for you guys. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Salmia Posted October 25, 2010 Report Share Posted October 25, 2010 I'm sad to see two of TOOL's allies cancel and part ways but if communication fell, so be it. I wish luck to both of you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gibsonator21 Posted October 25, 2010 Report Share Posted October 25, 2010 Sorry to see this. I wish the best to both alliances. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
memoryproblems Posted October 25, 2010 Report Share Posted October 25, 2010 Interesting, but as time goes by, so changes the days of our lives. oh, also, lines being erased and all that stuff. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Janova Posted October 25, 2010 Report Share Posted October 25, 2010 One less MADP in the world is a good thing, however it comes about. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Uralica Posted October 25, 2010 Report Share Posted October 25, 2010 Heartbreaking stuff. Best of luck to both alliances. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nippy Posted October 25, 2010 Report Share Posted October 25, 2010 Congratulations to TPF! Good on ya, boys. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mythicknight Posted October 25, 2010 Report Share Posted October 25, 2010 I loves me some FEAR Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wu Tang Clan Posted October 25, 2010 Report Share Posted October 25, 2010 This is too bad. Good luck to FEAR and TPF both. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D34th Posted October 25, 2010 Report Share Posted October 25, 2010 Strange and unexpected, TPF and FEAR were allies since forever... [quote name='Bob Janova' timestamp='1288028341' post='2492884'] One less MADP in the world is a good thing, however it comes about. [/quote] It's funny to see you talk about MADPs when your own alliance holds an eternal one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alterego Posted October 25, 2010 Report Share Posted October 25, 2010 Good luck to our allies [quote name='Bob Janova' timestamp='1288028341' post='2492884'] One less MADP in the world is a good thing, however it comes about. [/quote] Honest Bob is right I think this means his MADP will be in the bin next, perhaps one of the fifteen MDoAPs (including PB) they also hold. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Janova Posted October 25, 2010 Report Share Posted October 25, 2010 I'll be honest, I dropped that hook to see if the usual crew would bring that up (It's not my MADP. And I didn't say anything about MDPs.) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lennox Posted October 25, 2010 Report Share Posted October 25, 2010 Good luck to both FEAR and TPF. I know this decision wasn't made lightly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cornelius Posted October 25, 2010 Report Share Posted October 25, 2010 Always sad to see cancellations based on lack of information, but definitely understandable. [quote name='D34th' timestamp='1288029473' post='2492903']It's funny to see you talk about MADPs when your own alliance holds an eternal one. [/quote] I thought it was only diamonds that are forever? [quote name='Alterego' timestamp='1288030136' post='2492912'] Good luck to our allies Honest Bob is right I think this means his MADP will be in the bin next, perhaps one of the fifteen MDoAPs (including PB) they also hold. [/quote] Actually, since we were already treatied to three members of PB before the bloc was signed (four if you count the ODP with GOONS), you're overestimating a bit there. If you're counting actual treaties, sure, but there are a few duplicates in there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ClashCityRocker Posted October 25, 2010 Report Share Posted October 25, 2010 [quote name='Bob Janova' timestamp='1288028341' post='2492884'] One less MADP in the world is a good thing, however it comes about. [/quote] Too bad this has been an MDoaP for about a year Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HeroofTime55 Posted October 25, 2010 Report Share Posted October 25, 2010 [quote name='Bob Janova' timestamp='1288028341' post='2492884'] One less MADP in the world is a good thing, however it comes about. [/quote] "As long as it doesn't weaken our side" If less treaties is a good thing, then cancel all of yours. But it's not. What is important for the world is not less treaties, but balance. This cancellation puts the world ever so slightly more out of balance, and therefore is not a good thing, not just from the perspective of "our side," but from a universal perspective. It's only 'good' for those at the top, and then only if your objectives are to gain absolute control the entire world as NPO and friends once did. Anyway, Best of luck to our allies in TPF, and good luck to FEAR. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scorponok Posted October 25, 2010 Report Share Posted October 25, 2010 Ouch, its never nice to leave behind a long time ally. All the best to both of you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
supercoolyellow Posted October 25, 2010 Report Share Posted October 25, 2010 [quote name='Bob Janova' timestamp='1288028341' post='2492884'] One less MADP in the world is a good thing, however it comes about. [/quote] [quote name='Cornelius' timestamp='1288034482' post='2492971'] Always sad to see cancellations based on lack of information, but definitely understandable. I thought it was only diamonds that are forever? Actually, since we were already treatied to three members of PB before the bloc was signed (four if you count the ODP with GOONS), you're overestimating a bit there. If you're counting actual treaties, sure, but there are a few duplicates in there. [/quote] Both of you, are being a bit naughty. I guess Janova already said he was joking just a bit. However, if the world has too many treaties, its the responsibility of alliances who have a ton of treaties to cancel theirs, not the alliances that have fewer. I however, don't discredit the alliances that have a ton of treaties. If anything its the alliances that sign with them that deserve judgement. If my alliance has forty treaties, and another alliance wants to sign we me. Their FA minded people deserve to be kicked, if they think an alliance with so many treaties are going to take them all seriously. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Ilyani Posted October 25, 2010 Report Share Posted October 25, 2010 Only in CN can an argument about MDAPs start following the cancellation of an MDoAP. Good luck to both FEAR and TPF following this cancellation. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wes Walz Pants Posted October 25, 2010 Report Share Posted October 25, 2010 Best of luck to both Fear and TPF. You guys really have been tied forever or so it seems. Can't fault the cancelation reasoning though and its good to see the honesty about your own part in communications failure. P.S. Sup Turtle. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Janova Posted October 25, 2010 Report Share Posted October 25, 2010 [quote name='ClashCityRocker' timestamp='1288034656' post='2492972'] Too bad this has been an MDoaP for about a year [/quote] Huh, apologies then. It was listed as a MADP in my web, apparently no-one had posted the amendment or I missed it. SCY, you're another one who thinks I said 'One less treaty is a good thing ...'. I didn't. I said 'One less [b]MADP[/b] is a good thing'. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kevin32891 Posted October 25, 2010 Report Share Posted October 25, 2010 [quote name='Bob Janova' timestamp='1288028341' post='2492884'] One less MADP in the world is a good thing, however it comes about. [/quote] [img]http://img230.imageshack.us/img230/953/1284134152546.jpg[/img] Best of luck to both our allies. o/ FEAR o/ TPF Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turetel Posted October 25, 2010 Report Share Posted October 25, 2010 [quote name='Calderone' timestamp='1288040464' post='2493040'] Best of luck to both Fear and TPF. You guys really have been tied forever or so it seems. Can't fault the cancelation reasoning though and its good to see the honesty about your own part in communications failure. P.S. Sup Turtle. [/quote] Sup C. Pretty much spot on with your analysis, as usual Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
supercoolyellow Posted October 25, 2010 Report Share Posted October 25, 2010 [quote name='Bob Janova' timestamp='1288040847' post='2493045'] SCY, you're another one who thinks I said 'One less treaty is a good thing ...'. I didn't. I said 'One less [b]MADP[/b] is a good thing'. [/quote] Either you misread my opinion, or I did a poor job of communicating it. Re-read what I said and take a look at the parts I'm bolding this time. [quote name='supercoolyellow' timestamp='1288037209' post='2492997'] Both of you, are being a bit naughty. I guess Janova already said he was joking just a bit. However, [b]if the world has too many treaties[/b], its the responsibility of alliances who have a ton of treaties to cancel theirs, not the alliances that have fewer. [b]I however, don't discredit the alliances that have a ton of treaties[/b]. If anything its the alliances that sign with them that deserve judgement. If my alliance has forty treaties, and another alliance wants to sign we me. Their FA minded people deserve to be kicked, if they think an alliance with so many treaties are going to take them all seriously. [/quote] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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