rileyaddaff Posted July 23, 2015 Report Share Posted July 23, 2015 Someone needs to take this thread out back and put it out of its misery. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Duderonomy Posted July 23, 2015 Report Share Posted July 23, 2015 Someone needs to take this thread out back and put it out of its misery. But, but, it was just starting to get good. Plus, Methrage would start yet another thread, and nobody wants that. I wonder if 27 wars have even been declared in this conflict. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sephiroth Posted July 23, 2015 Author Report Share Posted July 23, 2015 But, but, it was just starting to get good. Plus, Methrage would start yet another thread, and nobody wants that. I wonder if 27 wars have even been declared in this conflict. Limitless Nexus has probably had around 40 wars with SRA alone. http://www.cybernations.net/alliance_wars.asp?ID=11780 My nation alone has been in 24 wars if you include back to when III% declared. http://www.cybernations.net/nation_war_information.asp?Nation_ID=164581 SRA's AA shows 115 wars since this conflict began. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stonewall14 Posted July 23, 2015 Report Share Posted July 23, 2015 That's 3 out of the 7 real SRA members above my range Sigrun mentioned. Once Smurth and Walsh's war chests run out it, it will likely be over unless they want to keep fighting on aid. They have more lose to by continuing than us and are the ones who will have a harder time rebuilding the longer this stretches out. You failed to mention, I along with most of Doomreich are allied to or friends with Kashmir and SRA and are an untapped reserve who will join in if we are asked to so...so your plot to outlast them needs some more calculations to consider this scenario...I have mixed emotions about joining in but as a dual member of SRA and ally of Kashmir i will not hesitate if asked to jump in... :war: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sephiroth Posted July 23, 2015 Author Report Share Posted July 23, 2015 (edited) You failed to mention, I along with most of Doomreich are allied to or friends with Kashmir and SRA and are an untapped reserve who will join in if we are asked to so...so your plot to outlast them needs some more calculations to consider this scenario...I have mixed emotions about joining in but as a dual member of SRA and ally of Kashmir i will not hesitate if asked to jump in... :war: Like I said, we're not planning to keep them at war longer than they want. We're planning to give them white peace, so whenever they realize they aren't winning we can probably end this. With Dreamweaver, the initial attacker who started this, at ZI and broke; I don't see a need for them to take more damage beyond what they take for wanting to continue the war longer. I think we've already hit them back hard enough and this has went on long enough. Edited July 23, 2015 by Methrage Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Duderonomy Posted July 23, 2015 Report Share Posted July 23, 2015 You failed to mention, I along with most of Doomreich are allied to or friends with Kashmir and SRA and are an untapped reserve who will join in if we are asked to so...so your plot to outlast them needs some more calculations to consider this scenario...I have mixed emotions about joining in but as a dual member of SRA and ally of Kashmir i will not hesitate if asked to jump in... :war: The plot thickens. So just how much are both sides willing to fight over a single word. Me and my popcorn must know. ^_^ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xanth Posted July 23, 2015 Report Share Posted July 23, 2015 Someone needs to take this thread out back and put it out of its misery. This, lots of this. Don't you all realize that once you stop talking to him [meth] he will shut up. No retorts no reason to post. So I ask all of you this one simple favor. Stop posting in this thread. This war will end when it ends and not a moment sooner so there is absolutely no reason to continue feeding this morons ego by commenting here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KingNeptune Posted July 23, 2015 Report Share Posted July 23, 2015 This can't be you Xanth. You only said it once. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Hitchcock Posted July 24, 2015 Report Share Posted July 24, 2015 (edited) This, lots of this. Don't you all realize that once you stop talking to him [meth] he will shut up. No retorts no reason to post. So I ask all of you this one simple favor. Stop posting in this thread. This war will end when it ends and not a moment sooner so there is absolutely no reason to continue feeding this morons ego by commenting here.I had no thrill in warring kashmir, whether I don't like margrave or layton, it's besides the point. I've stuck in their realm of friendship for the past year and a half (since my nation age). So I would have rather we just agreed to disagree and split ways and the current conflict is what it is. I see their views on the situation and we view the situation differently. It's why I messaged sir William for an early peace (when the war started). it wasn't a 'fun' war in our eyes as it was to them. The reply I recieved was somewhat expected, we'd be hit for a while and then things would wrap up. In that timeline Jack pulled a ;)&@ move and used Methrage's trust to ($&: with his AA. Now granted, it was a funny- but not at the extent of our friends. Which also doesn't bother me that we hit SRA. So as Xanth pointed out, the war will end when it ends. Per our side and per their side- it will be a while and the bickering back and forth isn't going to speed up or slow down the war. It's war, a dirty, trashy one. And it's mutually acceptable between all parties involved. We offered them white peace and if it doesn't happen we will keep fighting. They want us to surrender (giving them the benefit of the doubt that the decommission wonder comment was a "drunken demand", and invalid to the terms) and it isn't going to happen. Edited July 24, 2015 by Lord Hitchcock Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KingNeptune Posted July 24, 2015 Report Share Posted July 24, 2015 As above, "White Peace" all parties walk away and we move on. Done deal. Over to you Kashmir SRA n Co. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sephiroth Posted July 24, 2015 Author Report Share Posted July 24, 2015 I'm starting to feel kind of bad for some of these nations sent to attack in a hopeless battle from the start and getting decimated; just so their leaders can pretend they're winning. The SRA nation on me has already lost half his NS and is almost broke. Margrave is pretty much broke. This other Kashmir nation on me at least still has loot left to grab, but they aren't fairing much better. The SRA/Kashmir Coalition seems to care more about getting us to surrender than the well-being of their alliances and members. White peace would save a lot of SRA & Kashmir nations from taking a lot of unneeded damage. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neo Uruk Posted July 24, 2015 Report Share Posted July 24, 2015 Yes, SRA is the one pretending to have won. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Hitchcock Posted July 24, 2015 Report Share Posted July 24, 2015 (edited) Yes, SRA is the one pretending to have won. They really are... SPTR ghosts are holding them a float... SRA has worse war chests than minc (and that's with PPOs life support)... let them burn until white peace is accepted Edited July 24, 2015 by Lord Hitchcock Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neo Uruk Posted July 24, 2015 Report Share Posted July 24, 2015 Here's the thing; they can afford to have worse warchests in this war. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sephiroth Posted July 24, 2015 Author Report Share Posted July 24, 2015 Here's the thing; they can afford to have worse warchests in this war. I can afford to fight with no warchest and keep winning my battles as I do it. So whether they can afford it isn't anything special. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dochartaigh Posted July 24, 2015 Report Share Posted July 24, 2015 Everytime Meth opens his mouth about how godly he is at war, it only makes me wish SRA/Kashmir will push the wonder decom terms on him. Force him to decom most of his military wonders and then let's see how "godly" he is fighting even in the shittier. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sephiroth Posted July 24, 2015 Author Report Share Posted July 24, 2015 (edited) Everytime Meth opens his mouth about how godly he is at war, it only makes me wish SRA/Kashmir will push the wonder decom terms on him. Force him to decom most of his military wonders and then let's see how "godly" he is fighting even in the !@#$tier. I never compared myself to God or claimed my abilities Godly, only you're doing that. I humble myself before God, there is nothing Godly about beating Kashmir/SRA in the tiers they're attacking. They must be masochists to keep sending waves at a nation with 9 lines of wonders and 6 lines of improvements. I just don't understand what they hope to prove by doing so. Edited July 24, 2015 by Methrage Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
porksaber Posted July 24, 2015 Report Share Posted July 24, 2015 (edited) how's this war coming along? e: wow 1000 posts for me. surely i've posted more than that. anyway, go me. Edited July 24, 2015 by porksaber Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Duderonomy Posted July 24, 2015 Report Share Posted July 24, 2015 how's this war coming along? e: wow 1000 posts for me. surely i've posted more than that. anyway, go me. Both sides claim to be winning, and the only difference between their proposed peace agreements is a single word. Both sides claim that they are the peaceful ones, even though every action points to them just wanting to tear each other apart physically and rhetorically. So I guess you could say this war is currently bi-winning. Everyone gets a trophy! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the rebel Posted July 24, 2015 Report Share Posted July 24, 2015 Both sides claim to be winning, and the only difference between their proposed peace agreements is a single word. Both sides claim that they are the peaceful ones, even though every action points to them just wanting to tear each other apart physically and rhetorically. So I guess you could say this war is currently bi-winning. Everyone gets a trophy! Someone's got to get the technical victory of "whose peace wording" won. :ehm: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dochartaigh Posted July 25, 2015 Report Share Posted July 25, 2015 I never compared myself to God or claimed my abilities Godly, only you're doing that. I humble myself before God, there is nothing Godly about beating Kashmir/SRA in the tiers they're attacking. They must be masochists to keep sending waves at a nation with 9 lines of wonders and 6 lines of improvements. I just don't understand what they hope to prove by doing so. The amount of posting you do about your nation and its warring capability. So yes, you have done exactly what you claim you don't. If you want to try and make this claim you are making, then you should shut your mouth about your wars. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Hitchcock Posted July 25, 2015 Report Share Posted July 25, 2015 (edited) The amount of posting you do about your nation and its warring capability. So yes, you have done exactly what you claim you don't. If you want to try and make this claim you are making, then you should shut your mouth about your wars. At least he's posting about his war activities rather than his poaching activities. #idiot Edited July 25, 2015 by Lord Hitchcock Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charles the Tyrant Posted July 25, 2015 Report Share Posted July 25, 2015 At least he's posting about his war activities rather than his poaching activities. #idiot I don't think Doch would be a very effective poacher to be honest, he is rather gruff :P Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sephiroth Posted July 25, 2015 Author Report Share Posted July 25, 2015 The amount of posting you do about your nation and its warring capability. So yes, you have done exactly what you claim you don't. If you want to try and make this claim you are making, then you should shut your mouth about your wars.Duderonomy said he was more interested in hearing about how the actual war was going, rather than the pointless stuff your type keep wanting to argue in circles about; so I posted how its going. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Walshington Posted July 25, 2015 Report Share Posted July 25, 2015 SIGH. I fully intended to not return to this thread -- Xanth is right. However... Apparently, after I invited people to the view the peace thread, everyone I invited was blocked and the thread deleted to eliminate that access. That right there should clue you in as to who is telling the truth... however, I have received a few PM's from invitees who weren't able to see the thread before it was deleted (as well as from a few curious allies who weren't on the invite list) to post relevant screenshots to illuminate the proceedings to illustrate who knew what, and when, and what the terms were. I also see again that since the post was deleted, Meth and Hitchcock are again talking about the terms. Caveat: I started to screenshot the whole thing, but realized would take forever AND make the post even longer than this one is already. These are the relevant posts, interspersed with who said what when. I cringe to note that someone will no doubt say I edited out some vital piece of the proceedings. Then make your own damn screenshots, or rely on the invitees who did see the post to verify that this fits their memory. So, to my allies: I am the guy you thought I was. To my enemies, you are as your words and actions portray you here. The peace talks actually began with a PM I sent to King Neptune off thread on July 7: The talks began in a separate thread: Following his Mea Culpa here, Smurth sent a follow-up PM to King Neptune: Nevertheless, Methrage began this thread on July 12th at 4:13 PM, with a cut and paste of the "wonder decom" terms, over 8 hours after those terms were countermanded. It's possible he hadn't been notified that they were (although the cut and paste HAD to come from the negotiations thread). Negotiations continued, which SHOULD have put to rest the notion that Monsters, Inc. was being "held hostage" by being denied peace until LN and CA surrendered: JULY 18: Sigrun, stated she has heard that the term is "unconditional surrender" in this post, where she conveniently provides a link to what is meant by the term: "An unconditional surrender is a surrender in which no guarantees are given to the surrendering party." This is in diametric opposition to the definition given in the negotiations thread on July 11, which she had evidently heard about. (Perhaps her allies did not adequately inform her.) Of course, later that day, Sigrun will insist that she has no knowledge of any terms offered by our coalition. Why were Sigrun and Meth not right there at the negotiating table? See above. JULY 18: Lord Hitchcock, who was part of the thread and knew exactly what the terms were, pretends here, here, here, and here that somehow he believes that the "wonder decom terms" are still on the table and active. JULY 19: Methrage still insists that "the wonder decom" terms are valid, knowing full well by this point they are not. JULY 20: Walsh opens up peace talk thread to select invitees so they can see the truth. Auctor, inexplicably left off the list, robbed of opportunity to vent faux outrage. JULY 21: Invitees blocked and thread deleted so they cannot see it. JULY 25: Walsh again exits thread -- but is still semi-active in this one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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