Lurunin Posted July 15, 2015 Report Share Posted July 15, 2015 This shit is still going on? Meth should be happy he's up against honorable walsh and not the numerous others who would have had him sanctioned months ago. Seriously you are free to head back to the negotiating table at any time. You are only making people want to grind you into the dirt even more each time you try to twist the truth Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KenMorningstar Posted July 15, 2015 Report Share Posted July 15, 2015 His idea of negotiating is demanding white peace or threatening to ankle bite longer. It's actually amusing yet tiresome. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sigrun Vapneir Posted July 15, 2015 Report Share Posted July 15, 2015 This !@#$ is still going on? Meth should be happy he's up against honorable walsh and not the numerous others who would have had him sanctioned months ago. Seriously you are free to head back to the negotiating table at any time. You are only making people want to grind you into the dirt even more each time you try to twist the truth Seriously, you don't know what you are talking about. Walsh has been and continues to be the furthest thing from honorable here, and by supporting his aggression you only smear yourself. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KenMorningstar Posted July 15, 2015 Report Share Posted July 15, 2015 Seriously, you don't know what you are talking about. Walsh has been and continues to be the furthest thing from honorable here, and by supporting his aggression you only smear yourself. Well there is always a chance methface will learn his lesson and shut the hell up. But it's a very remote, almost negligible chance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WarriorSoul Posted July 16, 2015 Report Share Posted July 16, 2015 I think the ad hominem attacks Walsh are kinda stupid, if I'm honest. Try to paint him as you will, you're talking about one of the more universally-respected members of our community [OOC: Both in character and out]. Attack his terms, attack this so-called war of aggression, but please don't attack his character. It's a telltale sign of someone who's desperate for points. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neo Uruk Posted July 16, 2015 Report Share Posted July 16, 2015 Seriously, you don't know what you are talking about. Walsh has been and continues to be the furthest thing from honorable here, and by supporting his aggression you only smear yourself.We've now hit peak hypocrisy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sigrun Vapneir Posted July 16, 2015 Report Share Posted July 16, 2015 (edited) I think the ad hominem attacks Walsh are kinda stupid, if I'm honest. Try to paint him as you will, you're talking about one of the more universally-respected members of our community [OOC: Both in character and out]. Attack his terms, attack this so-called war of aggression, but please don't attack his character. It's a telltale sign of someone who's desperate for points. I thought that too until I had to deal with him. I am not desperate for points, if you want to check my war screen you'll see where I score my points and that continues to go very well, thanks. I am simply speaking the truth, whether you want to hear it or not, as I have always done. We've now hit peak hypocrisy. Have you? Alright. Edited July 16, 2015 by Sigrun Vapneir Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neo Uruk Posted July 16, 2015 Report Share Posted July 16, 2015 You can't possibly be so unaware of your own behavior, can you? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sigrun Vapneir Posted July 16, 2015 Report Share Posted July 16, 2015 (edited) You can't possibly be so unaware of your own behavior, can you? Can you? I'm defending myself and my allies from an aggressive and opportunistic attack by a snake who pretends to be honorable but is nonetheless doing exactly what he (falsely) accuses others of doing. What are you doing? Oh yeah, sitting around talking smack from a safe position on the sidelines, as usual. You're the drunk ne'er do well that starts yelling lynch him! in the mob scene in every other western. You know Methrage has a lot of haters so you want to jump on the bandwagon and see someone get lynched. The real victims in this attempted lynching are going to be the members of the alliances involved that are getting and have gotten their nations wrecked for something they would have never wanted to take part in, because they believe the BS he is spinning. Anyone that thinks that is honourable behaviour needs to learn what honour means. Edited July 16, 2015 by Sigrun Vapneir Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KenMorningstar Posted July 16, 2015 Report Share Posted July 16, 2015 Can you? I'm defending myself and my allies from an aggressive and opportunistic attack by a snake who pretends to be honorable but is nonetheless doing exactly what he (falsely) accuses others of doing. What are you doing? Oh yeah, sitting around talking smack from a safe position on the sidelines, as usual. You're the drunk ne'er do well that starts yelling lynch him! in the mob scene in every other western. You know Methrage has a lot of haters so you want to jump on the bandwagon and see someone get lynched. The real victims in this attempted pogrom are going to be the members of the alliances involved that are getting and have gotten their nations wrecked for something they would have never wanted to take part in, because they believe the BS he is spinning. Anyone that thinks that is honourable behaviour needs to learn what honour means. I tried to get off the sidelines but Xanth wouldn't let me. Also the only smoking craters so far are Limited Nexus and You. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WarriorSoul Posted July 16, 2015 Report Share Posted July 16, 2015 I thought that too until I had to deal with him. I am not desperate for points, if you want to check my war screen you'll see where I score my points and that continues to go very well, thanks. I am simply speaking the truth, whether you want to hear it or not, as I have always done. For the record, R&R government has had to deal with Walsh before concerning a fairly serious matter, and he was nothing but understanding, even going above and beyond anything we could ask of him. I won't continue down this path, as this thread isn't a discussion on Walsh's character, but I feel like your position is causing you to malign him solely out of self-interest. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sigrun Vapneir Posted July 16, 2015 Report Share Posted July 16, 2015 (edited) I tried to get off the sidelines but Xanth wouldn't let me. If you want action you could apply to CA. Not guaranteeing we would accept, but it would certainly be an interesting conversation. Also the only smoking craters so far are Limited Nexus and You. You still don't get it? As many times as you have tried to stomp him and you still don't have the slightest clue how war works? Amazing. For the record, R&R government has had to deal with Walsh before concerning a fairly serious matter, and he was nothing but understanding, even going above and beyond anything we could ask of him. I won't continue down this path, as this thread isn't a discussion on Walsh's character, but I feel like your position is causing you to malign him solely out of self-interest. For the record, like most people, Walsh clearly believes he can behave very differently against someone with 7 nations versus one with 140. And to be clear, I am not saying that makes him any different from most leaders, or that I am surprised or offended by it. Except for the fact that he is so careful to paint a public face that is so very different from his actions. I can understand your feeling. It is perhaps even a reasonable one for you to have. It is not accurate. What more can I say? If you can put yourself in my shoes I imagine 'snake' would be the kindest word you would have for the man. Edited July 16, 2015 by Sigrun Vapneir Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neo Uruk Posted July 16, 2015 Report Share Posted July 16, 2015 Can you? I'm defending myself and my allies from an aggressive and opportunistic attack by a snake who pretends to be honorable but is nonetheless doing exactly what he (falsely) accuses others of doing. What are you doing? Oh yeah, sitting around talking smack from a safe position on the sidelines, as usual. You're the drunk ne'er do well that starts yelling lynch him! in the mob scene in every other western. You know Methrage has a lot of haters so you want to jump on the bandwagon and see someone get lynched. The real victims in this attempted lynching are going to be the members of the alliances involved that are getting and have gotten their nations wrecked for something they would have never wanted to take part in, because they believe the BS he is spinning. Anyone that thinks that is honourable behaviour needs to learn what honour means.Literally every thing you said -- minus the potshots at me as a person, none of which are true; Methrage has threatened me with eternal war multiple times at this point -- applies to you/Methrage more than it does Walsh. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sigrun Vapneir Posted July 16, 2015 Report Share Posted July 16, 2015 Methrage has threatened me with eternal war multiple times at this point -- applies to you/Methrage more than it does Walsh. You have followed Methrage around poking at him for months, started a fight, got your tail stomped, made peace, and then you pull the grudge back out later as an excuse to back anyone that will dare attack him. We were talking about this earlier, that really doesnt work. Once you make peace you have to let this stuff go. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Margrave Posted July 16, 2015 Report Share Posted July 16, 2015 How many pages can Sigrun fill with nonsensical bullshit? Tune in at 11 to find out! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neo Uruk Posted July 16, 2015 Report Share Posted July 16, 2015 You have followed Methrage around poking at him for months, started a fight, got your tail stomped, made peace, and then you pull the grudge back out later as an excuse to back anyone that will dare attack him. We were talking about this earlier, that really doesnt work. Once you make peace you have to let this stuff go.I back "anyone" that will dare to get attacked by him because he's a repeat offender and I know how this shit goes. I don't think I've personally started a fight with Methrage yet, and we'll just say he wouldn't have run had his membership not suddenly appeared one day. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sephiroth Posted July 16, 2015 Author Report Share Posted July 16, 2015 We outnumber you, have more nations than you, and have fought in wars most have forgotten. It is not you keeping us at war, you maniac, it is we who will keep you at war until you submit to the terms we direct or you are crushed beyond recognition. The Boot is firmly on your neck and we have no intention of letting anyone buying your freedom. You seem to be in my NS range. If you want another round, feel free to take one of my slots. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KenMorningstar Posted July 16, 2015 Report Share Posted July 16, 2015 Once you make peace you have to let this stuff go. I finally get it. This is the delusion you are laboring under. Let me help. No you don't. You don't have to let it go. You can hold that grudge forever and continually act on it if you want. And if you finally get the upper hand, you can step on their neck as hard as you want until someone else stops you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lady Dakota Posted July 16, 2015 Report Share Posted July 16, 2015 If you guys would vote me into the Brown Senate again, I can sanction him until Christmas so he can enter bill lock. And then problem solved. Thanks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KingNeptune Posted July 16, 2015 Report Share Posted July 16, 2015 (edited) If you guys would vote me into the Brown Senate again, I can sanction him until Christmas so he can enter bill lock. And then problem solved. Thanks. I will take everyone ice skating in hell before that happens. Edited July 16, 2015 by Kingneptune Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dochartaigh Posted July 16, 2015 Report Share Posted July 16, 2015 White peace is a generous offer considering all the acts of aggression against us unprovoked, but I'm willing to put an end to this if you guys are serious about peace. SRA hasn't won and Kashmir sticking their nose in further doesn't change that. This, this undeserved ego considering all the ridiculous and idiotic things you do, is one of the main reasons why I am down for you having to decom wonders. If you would just finally admit that you are some irrelevant, crazy, and usually stupid schmuck, then I would have more sympathy for you. Instead, you consistently act like you do nothing wrong and all the while, it is your idiot friends who suffer for backing you dumbass up. You have probably caused more nations to delete because they go to bat for you and end up getting wrecked in return before they finally realize that you are batshit insane and stupid. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sigrun Vapneir Posted July 16, 2015 Report Share Posted July 16, 2015 Do you think we need to be 'relevant' before it's ok for us to defend ourselves? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kingzog Posted July 16, 2015 Report Share Posted July 16, 2015 Methrage and Sigrun are the nagware of diplomacy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KenMorningstar Posted July 16, 2015 Report Share Posted July 16, 2015 Do you think we need to be 'relevant' before it's ok for us to defend ourselves? Considering you were the aggressor in this situation this makes no sense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sigrun Vapneir Posted July 16, 2015 Report Share Posted July 16, 2015 Considering you were the aggressor in this situation this makes no sense. Except we were never the aggressors in this situation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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