magicninja Posted June 19, 2012 Report Share Posted June 19, 2012 [quote name='James Dahl' timestamp='1340078053' post='2988455'] Implying they made any choices at all [/quote] They chose not to activate optional aggression with LSF and chose to understand that sending in RnR first was trying to play (like last war) CnG's sympathies towards eachother's allies. It worked last war and GATO sit by and let RnR hit LoSS. Not this noche. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AirMe Posted June 19, 2012 Report Share Posted June 19, 2012 [quote name='magicninja' timestamp='1340078257' post='2988464'] They chose not to activate optional aggression with LSF and chose to understand that sending in RnR first was trying to play (like last war) CnG's sympathies towards eachother's allies. It worked last war and GATO sit by and let RnR hit LoSS. Not this noche. [/quote] You know.....I knew I liked you for some reason. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Omniscient1 Posted June 19, 2012 Report Share Posted June 19, 2012 [quote name='Seerow' timestamp='1340077935' post='2988448'] Two allies of two different alliances in the same bloc were under attack. Why is helping one honorable and helping another one undermining the credibility of the bloc? You're just mad they didn't make the choice you would prefer. [/quote] Well if TLR and GATO would have hit say Invicta or something people would have laughed at the fact they joined the winning side (like always). It wouldn't have undermined their status as an honorable ally though. They could have easily justified it in my eyes. Doing this is just shocking though. I get why it was done, you don't want NATO to come in and drag NPO to the other side..... I gotcha good strategy. Still it's just almost unethical the way CnG has treated their treaty partners. I don't necessarily think MK's war is unjust or anything if that's what you're trying to ask. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stealthkill Posted June 19, 2012 Report Share Posted June 19, 2012 I, for one, am shocked that you didn't make the obligatory TLR war against Myth. Very classy of you to give that one to GATO and MK. Nanners however is excited. Thank you for satisfying his boner, there was no way in hell MK could. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ogaden Posted June 19, 2012 Report Share Posted June 19, 2012 (edited) I like that line, you know where I heard it first? MK. It's like they're in your brains. [quote name='magicninja' timestamp='1340078257' post='2988464'] They chose not to activate optional aggression with LSF and chose to understand that sending in RnR first was trying to play (like last war) CnG's sympathies towards eachother's allies. It worked last war and GATO sit by and let RnR hit LoSS. Not this noche. [/quote] You are literally the only people who actually believe this. Edited June 19, 2012 by James Dahl Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D34th Posted June 19, 2012 Report Share Posted June 19, 2012 [quote name='AirMe' timestamp='1340076208' post='2988338'] INT chose how to deal with LSF and you can be damn sure if they decided they wanted to support LSF that we would have been right on the front lines with them. [/quote] [img]http://cache.ohinternet.com/images/9/9e/HA_HA_HA,_OH_WOW.jpg[/img] Thanks for the laugh Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Diego Rivera Posted June 19, 2012 Report Share Posted June 19, 2012 [quote name='VladimirLenin' timestamp='1340077503' post='2988424'] Not entirely, but spin it how you like. Time will reveal all truths. [/quote] Frame it however you want, but this looks bad. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HeroofTime55 Posted June 19, 2012 Report Share Posted June 19, 2012 [quote name='Rush Sykes' timestamp='1340076844' post='2988377'] Not everypony can play this game from a moralist standpoint and still stomach the all the double talk. [/quote] We ponies of United Equestria have a wonderful time without the need to blow things up every six months. We're not hippies, we'll fight if there is a valid cause we must defend, but we aren't aggressive and I know not of a single pony in our ranks who would support this nonsense from MK. But then again, we are a unique breed of ponies, so I can't really argue your point is invalid. Just something I reject on moral and ethical standards. At least under the moralism of the past, there was a way proper to not get curbstomped. Just avoid rubbing people the wrong way and making any major screw-ups. Today we have a system that basically encourages everyone to get as close to MK as possible lest they have a totally random curbie applied to their face. The moralist world was interesting. This current world, where alliances like Umbrella, TOP, and MK utterly dominate the top ranks? It's boring as hell, the outcome of every war is decided before hand, and lately it has just been "lets just kick Polar/Superfriends/XX again while they are still down lol." It's utterly lame. It's more fun when the outcome is actually up in the air. Except for cowards and stat-huggers of course. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Feanor Noldorin Posted June 19, 2012 Report Share Posted June 19, 2012 Very nice! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Subcomandante VL Posted June 19, 2012 Report Share Posted June 19, 2012 [quote name='Diego Rivera' timestamp='1340078556' post='2988478'] Frame it however you want, but this looks bad. [/quote]Heh. I'll definitely concede that one old friend. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
magicninja Posted June 19, 2012 Report Share Posted June 19, 2012 [quote name='James Dahl' timestamp='1340078406' post='2988472'] You are literally the only people who actually believe this. [/quote] We're the only ones who have to. Would you have went oA with LSF for their crusade especially in the way they went about it? You had to have seen some of the pretty wicked ooc !@#$ they put out.... Would you? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ogaden Posted June 19, 2012 Report Share Posted June 19, 2012 [quote name='magicninja' timestamp='1340078953' post='2988491'] We're the only ones who have to. Would you have went oA with LSF for their crusade especially in the way they went about it? You had to have seen some of the pretty wicked ooc !@#$ they put out.... Would you? [/quote] We would and we have in the past, that's what makes us better than you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flak attack Posted June 19, 2012 Report Share Posted June 19, 2012 (edited) [quote name='HeroofTime55' timestamp='1340076623' post='2988366'] In my view, it is not possible for one to "defend" the fungus alliance. They are the clear aggressors and in totality lack any sense of a moral compass. You are merely joining in on their aggression. Which is disappointing, as I hold TLR in somewhat high regard. Your ties to and willingness to support the fungus alliance in their immoral crusades is regrettable. [/quote] Are you too afraid to refer to us by name? I like it. We've become the boogeyman that even the adults in UE fear to speak of. Edited June 19, 2012 by flak attack Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
magicninja Posted June 19, 2012 Report Share Posted June 19, 2012 [quote name='James Dahl' timestamp='1340078996' post='2988493'] We would and we have in the past, that's what makes us better than you. [/quote] Really? If backing ooc attacks with aggressive action makes you better than us by all means have at it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ogaden Posted June 19, 2012 Report Share Posted June 19, 2012 [quote name='magicninja' timestamp='1340079188' post='2988503'] Really? If backing ooc attacks with aggressive action makes you better than us by all means have at it. [/quote] It's called honoring treaties. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Omniscient1 Posted June 19, 2012 Report Share Posted June 19, 2012 [quote name='magicninja' timestamp='1340079188' post='2988503'] Really? If backing ooc attacks with aggressive action makes you better than us by all means have at it. [/quote] "Says backing OOC attacks is wrong" "Declares in defense of [B]MK[/B]" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seerow Posted June 19, 2012 Report Share Posted June 19, 2012 [quote name='magicninja' timestamp='1340079188' post='2988503'] Really? If backing ooc attacks with aggressive action makes you better than us by all means have at it. [/quote] And they say [i]we've[/i] become the monster. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sir Alov Posted June 19, 2012 Report Share Posted June 19, 2012 A very special birthday indeed. Good luck TLR! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
magicninja Posted June 19, 2012 Report Share Posted June 19, 2012 [quote name='Omniscient1' timestamp='1340079277' post='2988512'] "Says backing OOC attacks is wrong" "Declares in defense of [B]MK[/B]" [/quote] I don't see how MK hitting CSN was in any way OOC. Though if you can point me to it I'd be happy to concede this point. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seerow Posted June 19, 2012 Report Share Posted June 19, 2012 [quote name='Omniscient1' timestamp='1340079277' post='2988512'] "Says backing OOC attacks is wrong" "Declares in defense of [B]MK[/B]" [/quote] Interestingly, we've never pushed OOC attacks to the point of declaring war for them. But I get it, it's okay. LSF are the good guys, MK is the BBEG. We can only hope and pray for MKarma to save us all, and free the land from our tyranny. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
magicninja Posted June 19, 2012 Report Share Posted June 19, 2012 [quote name='James Dahl' timestamp='1340079238' post='2988507'] It's called honoring treaties. [/quote] Int had no obligation to honor the optional aggression. They could have sure but considering how LSF acted publiclly and some things said behind closed doors LSF was fine with them not doing so. I mean if it was mandatory ok you may have a point here but it WAS optional. So why all the tears about it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rudolph Posted June 19, 2012 Report Share Posted June 19, 2012 [quote name='Rush Sykes' timestamp='1340075556' post='2988298'] Nobody in their right mind (I said in their right mind) can possibly get mad over doing what you have to do to win a war. War is not meant to be honorable, its not meant to be classy. It is meant to kill people and break things to help those of us on our side. Everyone chooses a side. RnR chose their side long ago, they knew there was a next to 0 chance they would ever be on the same side as INT, and who better to assure that RnR get a trouble free exit when the time comes, than 2 alliances that love INT more than they love 95% of the rest of CN. Complain till you are blue in the face, it will not change what war is, exit your fantasy world and enter reality. [/quote] Then I and everyone else in Sakura must be crazy $%&@ers for having the complete opposite view on how to war on this planet than you, Rush. Sakura, my home, as a whole acts as honorable as it can, even during wartime. We do not throw away it when it's convenient or politically expedient, because doing so would destroy what Sakura is all about. Sure, we do the usual bit about propaganda but we still war against our enemies with class and integrity. So it's amusing to see you say this when I know of a big number of people who war with class and integrity. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Subcomandante VL Posted June 19, 2012 Report Share Posted June 19, 2012 [quote name='magicninja' timestamp='1340078257' post='2988464'] They chose not to activate optional aggression with LSF and chose to understand that sending in RnR first was trying to play (like last war) CnG's sympathies towards eachother's allies. It worked last war and GATO sit by and let RnR hit LoSS. Not this noche. [/quote] We chose to dishonor the treaty, not simply refuse optional aggression. I'm not going to do any spinning here, and you guys don't need to for our sake either. Actually, to be frank I'd rather you not. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ardus Posted June 19, 2012 Report Share Posted June 19, 2012 Only an alliance as good as TLR would give presents on its own birthday. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Facade Posted June 19, 2012 Report Share Posted June 19, 2012 [quote name='Rudolph' timestamp='1340079503' post='2988519'] Then I and everyone else in Sakura must be crazy $%&@ers for having the complete opposite view on how to war on this planet than you, Rush. Sakura, my home, as a whole acts as honorable as it can, even during wartime. We do not throw away it when it's convenient or politically expedient, because doing so would destroy what Sakura is all about. Sure, we do the usual bit about propaganda but we still war against our enemies with class and integrity. So it's amusing to see you say this when I know of a big number of people who war with class and integrity. [/quote] Woah, warring and conducting affairs with maturity and class? That's crazy talk, Rudolph. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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