sir jesus Posted June 11, 2009 Report Share Posted June 11, 2009 The Melvin Republic does not agree with Bill IHHB 1, we do not see how this will positively influence the Dragon Empire. We do not see a positive cost-benefit with the plan. We would be more interested in seeing better quality medical facilities on existing military ships, but even that doesn't seem very beneficial to the DE. The Melvin Republic votes "Nay," but reserves the veto. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maelstrom Vortex Posted June 11, 2009 Author Report Share Posted June 11, 2009 "We have had operational hospital ships in the history of Dragonisia. They make incredibly good diplomatic tools and have been used to deliver aid and relief to burdened populaces in war zones. It is the embodiment of our good will. It has no tangible cost-benefit, we agree on this, but if you'd seen the strong relations that we have developed historically by the presence of these ships when and where they were needed, I think you'd re-evaluate your position. Having and constructing the ships will pour money into the economy. They're not expensive to maintain when at rest and can double as hospitals in metropolitan areas throughout the Empire in the event of Pandemic. With these points noted we leave the floor open to further discussion." "On a separate topic. Asia seems to be calming back down after a near war in the Korean region, I think it would be safe to stand back down to DEFCON 3 and stand down from any internal retooling processes for the momment." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sir jesus Posted June 11, 2009 Report Share Posted June 11, 2009 "They make incredibly good diplomatic tools ... It is the embodiment of our good will. It has no tangible cost-benefit, we agree on this, but if you'd seen the strong relations that we have developed historically by the presence of these ships when and where they were needed, I think you'd re-evaluate your position. I considered this as I placed my vote, I do see the possibility of diplomatic benefit. Is it worth it? I'm not sure. Having and constructing the ships will pour money into the economy. They're not expensive to maintain when at rest and can double as hospitals in metropolitan areas throughout the Empire in the event of Pandemic. With these points noted we leave the floor open to further discussion." Your first point I will hotly contest, government expenditure with the only purpose other than expenditure will only increase the economy in the short run and will hurt it in the long-run. However, if we can add in revisions like the second suggestion to make them worth the cost I may be swayed. Again, if the other members support this I will not use veto powers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
freakwars Posted June 11, 2009 Report Share Posted June 11, 2009 (edited) The Melvin Republic does not agree with Bill IHHB 1, we do not see how this will positively influence the Dragon Empire. We do not see a positive cost-benefit with the plan. We would be more interested in seeing better quality medical facilities on existing military ships, but even that doesn't seem very beneficial to the DE.The Melvin Republic votes "Nay," but reserves the veto. The ship would be constructed by Andonia, with the assistance of Pax Pacis and some money from the Empire. Charities will be set up to help reduce the cost to the Empire as well. This would make it not that expensive, but still not cheap. The benefits outweigh the costs. There is the diplomatic and public opinion benefit, and there is the benefit of saving more lives during conflicts. If your brother was lying on a battlefield, bleeding to death because there was no hospital ship to help him, would you still say that the hospital ships are a bad idea? Edited June 12, 2009 by freakwars Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sir jesus Posted June 12, 2009 Report Share Posted June 12, 2009 All Dragon Empire member-states are to change to Defcon 3. Massive Underground Maglev System (MUMS) (1)The bill calls for an Empire-wide magnetic levitation railway system. The project would consist of one main channel containing 8 rail-lines that reaches into the heart of each major "area" of the Empire. Branching off of this main line will be many secondary lines containing 4 rail-lines each. Subsequent rail-lines can be added on at the member-states expense, or with a revision of this bill. The benefits: - Safe and fast military movement - Faster personal travel for leaders during war (safer than a plane) - Reduction in congestion and ease of empire-wide movement - Drastic increase in intra-empire trade Here is the following rough schematics, additional revisions can be made if requested. Proposed by President Landry, Melvin Republic Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
freakwars Posted June 12, 2009 Report Share Posted June 12, 2009 Andonia would like to suggest that the be extended farther down, at least to the southern tip of Dragonisia, to allow it to benefit more than just Andonain Burma. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maelstrom Vortex Posted June 12, 2009 Author Report Share Posted June 12, 2009 (edited) IHHB (1) Status: Yes: 2 (D, AR) No: 1(MR) Undecided: 0 IHHB Amendment (1a): Allow hospital ships to act as hospitals during down periods in major metropolitan areas and serve as hospital ships during times of war for deployed forces. Yes: 2 (MR, D) No:0 Undecided: 0 Mums (1) Status: Yes: 2 (MR, D) No: 0 Undecided: (AR) Mums Amendment (1a): Extend the rail south and have it cross the Adam's bridge onto the home Island of the Andonian Remnant: Yes: 3 (AR, D, MR) No:0 Undecided: 0 *Amendment Approved Edited June 12, 2009 by Maelstrom Vortex Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sir jesus Posted June 12, 2009 Report Share Posted June 12, 2009 Consider the revision done. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maelstrom Vortex Posted June 12, 2009 Author Report Share Posted June 12, 2009 So noted, likewise for IHHB? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
comrade nikonov Posted June 12, 2009 Report Share Posted June 12, 2009 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
freakwars Posted June 12, 2009 Report Share Posted June 12, 2009 (edited) I say Aye for the amendment to my bill. OOC: What's with the random map Niko? Edited June 12, 2009 by freakwars Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maelstrom Vortex Posted June 12, 2009 Author Report Share Posted June 12, 2009 ooc: I think he put it there so we could have it for the discussion while he's offline. He had to go do some school work. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
king of cochin Posted June 12, 2009 Report Share Posted June 12, 2009 Imperial Humanitarian and Health Bill (IHHB) (1) Massive Underground Maglev System (MUMS) (1) Aye for both Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maelstrom Vortex Posted June 12, 2009 Author Report Share Posted June 12, 2009 (edited) IHHB and MUMS are both approved with the appropriate amendments in effect and are executed/passed into budgetary law. Edited June 12, 2009 by Maelstrom Vortex Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
comrade nikonov Posted June 12, 2009 Report Share Posted June 12, 2009 We call upon Dragonisia to annex Shandong. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maelstrom Vortex Posted June 12, 2009 Author Report Share Posted June 12, 2009 We laugh at this request as we've a signed agreement with the owners of Shandong in how it should be partitioned. Request declined given that document. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
comrade nikonov Posted June 12, 2009 Report Share Posted June 12, 2009 The NPR delegate tears up. "Theres no reason to laugh. " Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maelstrom Vortex Posted June 12, 2009 Author Report Share Posted June 12, 2009 Aw buck up. I was only kidding. Besides, I'm just glad this whole dispute is done with. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maelstrom Vortex Posted June 14, 2009 Author Report Share Posted June 14, 2009 Congress is temporarily recessed until more pressing matters come up. It may be convened by anyone in the Empire at any time they need to propose a bill. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maelstrom Vortex Posted June 15, 2009 Author Report Share Posted June 15, 2009 The floor is now open to discuss opinions on how to handle the war between Greater Nordland Republic and Mariheimm, My instincts and morals say let the wolves fight each other. I'd like to know the rest of your opinions however. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sir jesus Posted June 15, 2009 Report Share Posted June 15, 2009 Personally, I believe that the Reich is doing nothing wrong, they are simply wrapping up a year+ war. If they had issued a DoW on Mariehamm, or if Baron Uberstein had seemed more eager for peace I could sympathize with him. However, we feel that the Reich is right in this instance. We support no action, for we feel that the Reich shall be victorious, regardless of our help. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
king of cochin Posted June 15, 2009 Report Share Posted June 15, 2009 Cochin proposes absolute neutrality towards both parties. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maelstrom Vortex Posted June 15, 2009 Author Report Share Posted June 15, 2009 We're also in favor of neutrality so given that and 3 approvals, we will stand firm on our neutrality stance. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maelstrom Vortex Posted June 15, 2009 Author Report Share Posted June 15, 2009 Given the situation in Palintine and our concerns for regional security, we've given them a Guarantee of Autonomy to protect them until they are back on their feet again. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
king of cochin Posted June 15, 2009 Report Share Posted June 15, 2009 Cochin cannot understand why a sovereign nation would require a Guarantee of Autonomy. There have been some economic crises in Palintine but we are not aware of them being militarily threatened by any nation. So where is the rationale for this Guarantee? Palintine is strong enough to maintain an EEZ in its territorial waters and that shows that they are quite militarily independent as well. If Palintine has voluntarily requested for this Guarantee Cochin proposes that DE should be given some concessions as well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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