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To: JBone From: pooksland Date: 4/14/2009 12:00:59 AM

Subject: Battle Report

Message: You have been attacked by pooksland. You lost 11,943 soldiers and 0 tanks. You killed 25,799 soldiers and 1,043 tanks. Their forces razed 130.678 miles of your land, stole 8.712 technology, and destroyed 34.848 infrastructure. Their forces looted $1,000,000.00 from you and you gained $0.00 in your enemy's abandoned equipment. In the end the battle was a Defeat. Any existing peace offers that were on the table have been automatically canceled.

To: JBone From: pooksland Date: 4/14/2009 12:01:05 AM

Subject: Battle Report

Message: You have been attacked by pooksland. You lost 3,551 soldiers and 0 tanks. You killed 7,043 soldiers and 2,184 tanks. Their forces razed 130.809 miles of your land, stole 8.721 technology, and destroyed 34.882 infrastructure. Their forces looted $1,000,000.00 from you and you gained $0.00 in your enemy's abandoned equipment. In the end the battle was a Defeat. Any existing peace offers that were on the table have been automatically canceled.

I have a question for masters of CN war system, why even killing more soldiers and destroying more tanks Jbone lost the battle? This is weird. :huh:

Edit: I got my answer already, it isn't about who have more losses but who ends with more soldiers right? :P

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This is going to go from a cheap shot start on your part to the great Old Dominion railing on State of Mind.

Damn, it feels good to be blowing up infra again!

Oh, puhleeze, knock off the cheap shot wails.

As a raider you know all about dealing out cheap shots; as a nation that began 30K NS higher than mine you shouldn't even need to mention the swatting of a fly.

The wails make it sound like I am not a fly.

P.S. FINALLY! A spy operation was successful!

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Aside from land your similar... you do realise NS isn't actually that great a measure of how effective a nation is don't you?

yoohoo... the land difference caused Old Dominion to have 25K more soldiers than me. You do realize land adds to population, don't you?

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yoohoo... the land difference caused Old Dominion to have 25K more soldiers than me. You do realize land adds to population, don't you?

It actually ain't all the lands fault, it has more to do with your trade resources too. His spices + sugar give him an extra 11% population bonus on you, so that easily makes up for around half of it.

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yoohoo... the land difference caused Old Dominion to have 25K more soldiers than me. You do realize land adds to population, don't you?

I'll tell you the secrets to my population after the war ends, since you seem to have still not figured it out.. going back to that whole incompetent admission. :lol:

This war is my proof that land can be one hell of a !@#$%*. Blaming your losses on the difference in nation strength, which is a completely worthless statistic, is both hilarious and pathetic and shows exactly how much you understand about the whole war system.

Since you seem to have had issues with comprehending the last breakdown, I've fixed the nuclear portion of the breakdown.

Peggy Sue -- GA: 1 won - 4 lost || AC: 0 won - 5 lost || Nuclear attacks: 1 deflected, 3 hit

Twisted -- GA: 5 won - 5 lost || AC: 7 won - 3 lost || Nuclear attacks: 4 deflected, 4 hit

Your move.

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The attacks from today (his SDI was able to thart my first nuke attempt)

To: JBone From: pooksland Date: 4/15/2009 12:00:27 AM

Subject: Nuclear Attack

Message: Your nation has been attacked with nuclear weapons by pooksland. Your fallout shelters have limited the damage caused by this attack. You lost 28084 soldiers, 1577 defending tanks, 0 cruise missiles, 259.985 miles of land, 86.662 technology, 259.985 infrastructure, 50% of your aircraft, and 18% of your nuclear vulnerable navy force. In addition to these losses your nation will experience several days of economic devastation.

To: JBone From: pooksland Date: 4/15/2009 12:00:52 AM

Subject: Battle Report

Message: You have been attacked by pooksland. You lost 1,640 soldiers and 237 tanks. You killed 5,738 soldiers and 6,321 tanks. Their forces razed 0.000 miles of your land, stole 0.000 technology, and destroyed 0.000 infrastructure. Their forces looted $0.00 from you and you gained $1,000,000.00 in your enemy's abandoned equipment. In the end the battle was a Victory. Any existing peace offers that were on the table have been automatically canceled.

To: JBone From: pooksland Date: 4/15/2009 12:00:58 AM

Subject: Battle Report

essage: You have been attacked by pooksland. You lost 9,643 soldiers and 1,616 tanks. You killed 12,634 soldiers and 108 tanks. Their forces razed 129.993 miles of your land, stole 8.666 technology, and destroyed 34.665 infrastructure. Their forces looted $953,559.87 from you and you gained $0.00 in your enemy's abandoned equipment. In the end the battle was a Defeat. Any existing peace offers that were on the table have been automatically canceled.

To: JBone From: pooksland Date: 4/15/2009 12:01:08 AM

Subject: Aircraft Dog Fight Report

Message: A fighter aircraft dog fight has just occurred against your nation by pooksland. In the attack you lost 16 fighter aircraft and destroyed 8 fighter aircraft launched by pooksland. Any existing peace offers that were on the table have been automatically canceled.

To: JBone From: pooksland Date: 4/15/2009 12:01:19 AM

Subject: Escorted Bombing Attack Report

Message: A fighter escorted bombing run has been launched against your nation by pooksland. In the attack you lost 0 defending tanks, 0 cruise missiles, and 0.00 infrastructure. You destroyed 1 attacking bombers. You lost 4 fighter aircraft and destroyed 11 fighter aircraft launched by pooksland. Any existing peace offers that were on the table have been automatically canceled.

To: JBone From: pooksland Date: 4/15/2009 12:02:49 AM

Subject: Cruise Missile Attack

Message: Your nation has been attacked with a cruise missile by pooksland. You lost 3 defending tanks, 2.60 technology, and 13.01 infrastructure. Any existing peace offers that were on the table have been automatically canceled.

To: JBone From: pooksland Date: 4/15/2009 12:02:57 AM

Subject: Cruise Missile Attack

Message: Your nation has been attacked with a cruise missile by pooksland. You lost 4 defending tanks, 2.60 technology, and 13.01 infrastructure. Any existing peace offers that were on the table have been automatically canceled.

To: JBone From: pooksland Date: 4/15/2009 12:04:15 AM

Subject: Naval Attack

Message: A naval attack has just occurred against your nation by pooksland. In the attack you lost 0 navy vessels and destroyed 0 navy vessels operated by pooksland. Any existing peace offers that were on the table have been automatically canceled.

To: JBone From: pooksland Date: 4/15/2009 12:04:21 AM

Subject: Naval Attack

Message: A naval attack has just occurred against your nation by pooksland. In the attack you lost 2 navy vessels and destroyed 1 navy vessels operated by pooksland. Any existing peace offers that were on the table have been automatically canceled.

To: JBone From: pooksland Date: 4/15/2009 12:04:25 AM

Subject: Naval Attack

Message: A naval attack has just occurred against your nation by pooksland. In the attack you lost 0 navy vessels and destroyed 1 navy vessels operated by pooksland. Any existing peace offers that were on the table have been automatically canceled.

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His response:

To: pooksland From: JBone Date: 4/15/2009 1:44:57 AM

Subject: Battle Report

Message: You have been attacked by JBone. You lost 13,278 soldiers and 4,109 tanks. You killed 18,678 soldiers and 1,952 tanks. Their forces razed 144.829 miles of your land, stole 9.655 technology, and destroyed 38.621 infrastructure. Their forces looted $1,000,000.00 from you and you gained $0.00 in your enemy's abandoned equipment. In the end the battle was a Defeat. Any existing peace offers that were on the table have been automatically canceled.

To: pooksland From: JBone Date: 4/15/2009 1:45:09 AM

Subject: Battle Report

Message: You have been attacked by JBone. You lost 7,050 soldiers and 501 tanks. You killed 22,062 soldiers and 3,549 tanks. Their forces razed 0.000 miles of your land, stole 0.000 technology, and destroyed 0.000 infrastructure. Their forces looted $0.00 from you and you gained $1,000,000.00 in your enemy's abandoned equipment. In the end the battle was a Victory. Any existing peace offers that were on the table have been automatically canceled.

To: pooksland From: JBone Date: 4/15/2009 1:49:02 AM

Subject: Cruise Missile Attack

Message: Your nation has been attacked with a cruise missile by JBone. You lost 14 defending tanks, 2.90 technology, and 14.50 infrastructure. Any existing peace offers that were on the table have been automatically canceled.

To: pooksland From: JBone Date: 4/15/2009 1:49:14 AM

Subject: Cruise Missile Attack

Message: Your nation has been attacked with a cruise missile by JBone. You lost 14 defending tanks, 2.90 technology, and 14.50 infrastructure. Any existing peace offers that were on the table have been automatically canceled.

To: pooksland From: JBone Date: 4/15/2009 1:50:21 AM

Subject: Nuclear Attack

Message: Your nation has been attacked with nuclear weapons by JBone. You lost 16817 soldiers, 1363 defending tanks, 0 cruise missiles, 289.948 miles of land, 96.649 technology, 289.948 infrastructure, 75% of your aircraft, and 25% of your nuclear vulnerable navy force. In addition to these losses your nation will experience many days of economic devastation.

To: pooksland From: JBone Date: 4/15/2009 1:50:44 AM

Subject: Escorted Bombing Attack Report

Message: A fighter escorted bombing run has been launched against your nation by JBone. In the attack you lost 38 defending tanks, 0 cruise missiles, and 38.66 infrastructure. You destroyed 0 attacking bombers. You lost 7 fighter aircraft and destroyed 2 fighter aircraft launched by JBone. Any existing peace offers that were on the table have been automatically canceled.

To: pooksland From: JBone Date: 4/15/2009 1:51:09 AM

Subject: Escorted Bombing Attack Report

Message: A fighter escorted bombing run has been launched against your nation by JBone. In the attack you lost 0 defending tanks, 0 cruise missiles, and 0.00 infrastructure. You destroyed 2 attacking bombers. You lost 3 fighter aircraft and destroyed 13 fighter aircraft launched by JBone. Any existing peace offers that were on the table have been automatically canceled.

To: pooksland From: JBone Date: 4/15/2009 1:51:29 AM

Subject: Naval Attack

Message: A naval attack has just occurred against your nation by JBone. In the attack you lost 3 navy vessels and destroyed 1 navy vessels operated by JBone. Any existing peace offers that were on the table have been automatically canceled.

To: pooksland From: JBone Date: 4/15/2009 1:51:38 AM

Subject: Naval Attack

Message: A naval attack has just occurred against your nation by JBone. In the attack you lost 3 navy vessels and destroyed 0 navy vessels operated by JBone. Any existing peace offers that were on the table have been automatically canceled.

To: pooksland From: JBone Date: 4/15/2009 1:51:45 AM

Subject: Naval Attack

Message: A naval attack has just occurred against your nation by JBone. In the attack you lost 0 navy vessels and destroyed 3 navy vessels operated by JBone. Any existing peace offers that were on the table have been automatically canceled.

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Why do you chose to use Border Walls Twisted? Surely you would have a higher population count without them regardless of environmental impact.

Eh, I thought about it, but I feel like the difference wouldn't be by much considering my environment is terrible and requires all five border walls. I haven't tested it in a long time, but I think each one is like 500 population lost?

(41,000 - 5,000) * .5 * .8 = 14,400 more soldiers.

Not to mention I started with 8799.99 infra while I believe she was near 9500.

EDIT: Just worked out the population differences of border walls and they are:

100,211 -> 100,599 -> 100,889 -> 101,132 -> 101,326 -> 101,472

Considering after this I may not be able to keep all of my improvements, I think its probably better I just hang onto them. :P

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I'll tell you the secrets to my population after the war ends, since you seem to have still not figured it out.. going back to that whole incompetent admission. :lol:

This war is my proof that land can be one hell of a !@#$%*. Blaming your losses on the difference in nation strength, which is a completely worthless statistic, is both hilarious and pathetic and shows exactly how much you understand about the whole war system.

Since you seem to have had issues with comprehending the last breakdown, I've fixed the nuclear portion of the breakdown.

Peggy Sue -- GA: 1 won - 4 lost || AC: 0 won - 5 lost || Nuclear attacks: 1 deflected, 3 hit

Twisted -- GA: 5 won - 5 lost || AC: 7 won - 3 lost || Nuclear attacks: 4 deflected, 4 hit

Your move.

What is the purpose of the sniping? Get over what bugs you and enjoy all aspects of the war ... unless you enjoy trying to project a richardhead image. ... not that you've succeeded, but that looks like what you have attempted.

Your infra loss is 1150 (approx.).

My infra loss is 2123 (approx.).

It looks odd to me when I see two CM attacks give exactly the same infra damage numbers ... such as 17.70

Example:

To: Peggy_Sue From: TwistedRebelDB47 Date: 4/12/2009 12:06:15 AM

Subject: Cruise Missile Attack

Message: Your nation has been attacked with a cruise missile by TwistedRebelDB47. You lost 18 defending tanks, 3.54 technology, and 17.70 infrastructure. Any existing peace offers that were on the table have been automatically canceled.

To: Peggy_Sue From: TwistedRebelDB47 Date: 4/12/2009 12:06:09 AM

Subject: Cruise Missile Attack

Message: Your nation has been attacked with a cruise missile by TwistedRebelDB47. You lost 18 defending tanks, 3.54 technology, and 17.70 infrastructure. Any existing peace offers that were on the table have been automatically canceled.

OOC: from the CN info. index page:

Cruise Missiles - Cruise missiles cost a base of $20,000 and cost a base of $200 to maintain. The results of a cruise missile launch are generated randomly. The maximum number of tanks that can be destroyed with one cruise missile is 10. The maximum number of infrastructure that can be destroyed is 10. The maximum number of technology that can be destroyed is 2. Purchasing satellite improvements increases cruise missile effectiveness +10% each and allows damage infliction beyond the damage caps up to 15 tanks, 15 infrastructure, and 3 technology. You may launch up to 2 cruise missile attacks per battle front per day. Cruise missile attacks do not count against ground battle attacks or vice versa. The costs to maintain cruise missiles are tripled after 50 cruise missiles."

What other modifier is not listed in that informational paragraph?

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It looks odd to me when I see two CM attacks give exactly the same infra damage numbers ... such as 17.70

OOC: from the CN info. index page:

Cruise Missiles - Cruise missiles cost a base of $20,000 and cost a base of $200 to maintain. The results of a cruise missile launch are generated randomly. The maximum number of tanks that can be destroyed with one cruise missile is 10. The maximum number of infrastructure that can be destroyed is 10. The maximum number of technology that can be destroyed is 2. Purchasing satellite improvements increases cruise missile effectiveness +10% each and allows damage infliction beyond the damage caps up to 15 tanks, 15 infrastructure, and 3 technology. You may launch up to 2 cruise missile attacks per battle front per day. Cruise missile attacks do not count against ground battle attacks or vice versa. The costs to maintain cruise missiles are tripled after 50 cruise missiles."

What other modifier is not listed in that informational paragraph?

Wow, you challenged twisted to a duel without knowing the basics of the combat system. :o

The line between bravery and stupidity is indeed thin.

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Wow, you challenged twisted to a duel without knowing the basics of the combat system.

The line between bravery and stupidity is indeed tin.

Your comment is out of line.

You know...that guy that posted yesterday about the OWF being full of rude, uninviting posters was dead on.

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Your comment is out of line.

Since you are an expert, explain why the OOC: CN info. index page does not list other modifiers for cruise missiles besides the satellites.

Read Improvements Missile Defense, Technology point 6 (damage bonus) and wonders Weapons Research Complex.

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Technology increases damages caused in ground battles, cruise missile attacks, nuclear missile attacks, navy attacking and defending naval attacks, and aircraft bombing attacks by 0.01% per level of technology.

Weapons Research Complex - $150,000,000 - Increases the technology bonus to damage from 0.01% to 0.02% per technology level.

Does that answer your question?

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What is the purpose of the sniping? Get over what bugs you and enjoy all aspects of the war ... unless you enjoy trying to project a richardhead image. ... not that you've succeeded, but that looks like what you have attempted.

I don't know what this "richardhead image" is, but I know I have succeeded in making your military look foolish.

Your infra loss is 1150 (approx.).

My infra loss is 2123 (approx.).

I'd love to see this trend continue.

It looks odd to me when I see two CM attacks give exactly the same infra damage numbers ... such as 17.70

What other modifier is not listed in that informational paragraph?

I don't think CM's have been random for as long as I have fought despite that description. They are influenced by satellites, missile defense, technology, and the Weapons Research Complex.

FYI:

Technology increases damages caused in ground battles, cruise missile attacks, nuclear missile attacks, navy attacking and defending naval attacks, and aircraft bombing attacks by 0.01% per level of technology. If an attacking nation with 3,000 technology causes a defender to lose 20 infrastructure in a ground battle then based on this 'techbonus' the defender would lose a total of 26 infrastructure in the attack. (20 + (20 * (3000 * .01%)))

EDIT: Damn you, Scorbolt, you beat me to it!

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The conversation is on a much more enjoyable line now. To me, this is more fun that tossing insults.

Yes, thank you for the tech information. That is why I've been buying it left and right for a year.

If this is all the TPF BadAss Department can handle, I hope the Phoenix ain't hungry for what we have cooked up for later!

Without knowing why apparently.

Maybe if she asks nicely, she can borrow one of our warguides. :lol:

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I don't know what this "richardhead image" is, but I know I have succeeded in making your military look foolish.

Not at all, Twisted. With tech and infra very close to the same at the beginning, the differences were 2 things you had that I didn't ... the Anti-Air Defense Network and a lot more land.

Oh, and a couple population modifiers I don't have (as Pooks pointed out).

While I went in to this thinking land was not that useful I am seeing how it can be. What figure was given for your population due to land?... 14K or so?

Land + population modifiers + AADN is making a huge difference.

Oh, and the infra loss numbers I posted for you are BEFORE my daily offensive battles.

We'll expect to see at least 4-500 more infra added to your count by the end of today.

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