An open letter to CubaQuerida

[eejack]

I am really confused. I am not sure what Julio Franco has to do with Cuba. I thought he was from the Dominican Republic.

[Bob]

Because for every one of you trying to discredit it publicly, ten people are reading in silence.

And thinking the same thing as those speaking publicly.

[Rebel Virginia]

Please stop using "Francoism" for your benefit. It's pathetic and shows a fundamental misunderstanding of what Francoism is.

Indeed. Francoism is and always has been whatever Vladimir said it is, and dependent on the current needs of the Order. I sincerely hope that Tywin will refrain from mocking the deeply and long-held beliefs of the Pacific.

[Xavier Harkonnen]

 

"No, that's not an opinion, it's a fact! If another house can seize one of our own and hold him captive with impunity, we are no longer a house to be feared."

 

Why do you keep changing your avatar every two days?

[Groucho Marx]

Please stop using "Francoism" for your benefit. It's pathetic and shows a fundamental misunderstanding of what Francoism is.

The only fundamental understanding about "Francoism" anyone needs to know is that it is a pseudo-philosophy that can mean whatever you want it to at any given time for any reason. Even rubber bands aren't that flexible.

[The Zigur]

Those who have never studied Francoism, and cannot provided educated discourse in regard to it, are not qualified to make assertions about it.

[Sir Kiloist]

Tywin, you say you are familiar with Francoism... So you must remember the quote "the point is not to discuss the world, but to change it" you do a lot of discussing and no changing tbh.

[Lord Hershey]

Here is the answer you have been looking for since the rebirth of DBDC.

 

[The Zigur]

Tywin, you say you are familiar with Francoism... So you must remember the quote "the point is not to discuss the world, but to change it" you do a lot of discussing and no changing tbh.

 

I've done some changing within my alliance, but there is only so much one can do. The one good thing that might come out of this situation is that people might become interested in the history and roots of our world, and I think even my detractors can agree that would be a good thing.

[Williambonney]

http://cybernations.wikia.com/wiki/Francoism

I think for some its more than just required reading. I know there are a great many Pacificans out there just as myself that follow Francoism and serve NPO well, and for them I give a grand o/

For the rest that choose a different path I cannot hold a grudge, nor enforce Francoism upon anyone.

[Xavier Harkonnen]

Those who have never studied Francoism, and cannot provided educated discourse in regard to it, are not qualified to make assertions about it.

 

Did you develop the word "provided" to be used exclusively with education, or in the past tense, educated, by yourself?

[RevolutionaryRebel]

imagine being such a low form of life that you have to rely on someone else's invented dogma to tell you how to live your life, clinging to it like a piece of barnacle-encrusted flotsam after a shipwreck

[The Zigur]

imagine being such a low form of life that you have to rely on someone else's invented dogma to tell you how to live your life, clinging to it like a piece of barnacle-encrusted flotsam after a shipwreck

 

Francoism is life. No, really, it is an analysis of life in this world. There is no need to reinvent the wheel and take credit for something that is already a masterpiece.

[Banned]

Simply put, why would anyone?  Your OP is discredited because you posted it.  Nothing else needs to be done.

That's a little argumentum ad hominem isn't it?

[Hereno]

That's a little argumentum ad hominem isn't it?

 

Nice [url=http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Argument_from_fallacy]argument from fallacy[/url] you got there.

[Luckao]

Has anybody checked on Cuba throughout all of this.  I'd hate to think that this educational post about Francoism has him climbing his bedroom walls in his underpants, wondering about the meaning of life.

Edited August 5, 2014 by Luckao

[Starcraftmazter]

I would find an actual challenge to what I write interesting, but few have the will or intelligence to make it happen.

You would be the only one.

You're doing the equivalent of, "the sky is green, prove me wrong. Go ahead, write an counter-argument!"

[Spartacus1082]

Cuba, if there is anything to make you rethink this crusade of yours, it should be this. I would never do anything that would result in Tywinn writing open letters to me and blathering on about madness.

 

I don't have the sanity.

If there's anything upsetting about this thread it's that I have to agree with Starfox.  I'm never supposed to agree with Starfox.

 

So know that Rota got bitchslapped into next week Tywin's stepping up?  At least he uses his big boy words.

[The Zigur]

 

Nice argument from fallacy you got there.

 

Clever, except he never said that the conclusion was false.

[Rebel Virginia]

Those who have never studied Francoism, and cannot provided educated discourse in regard to it, are not qualified to make assertions about it.

I was once one of the ranking military officers of the New Pacific Order, and for a time, the head of their intelligence division and one of the chief counselors to the Emperor. I'd say I know a fair deal more about what Francoism is that most people, yourself included.

[The Zigur]

I was once one of the ranking military officers of the New Pacific Order, and for a time, the head of their intelligence division and one of the chief counselors to the Emperor. I'd say I know a fair deal more about what Francoism is that most people, yourself included.

 

Considering the path NPO took from 2008 to 2009 I would say a great many Pacifican officials had no clue about Francoism, regardless of rank. In fact Imperial Officers in particular seemed to have a hard time understanding Francoism, as revealed by the fellow Francoist Al Kassad. The story he shared in Vox explains how Pacifica began to turn away from Francoism towards outright Imperialism during the reign of Moo, especially around the time of the Moldavi Rebellion.

[Rebel Virginia]

 

Considering the path NPO took from 2008 to 2009 I would say a great many Pacifican officials had no clue about Francoism, regardless of rank. In fact Imperial Officers in particular seemed to have a hard time understanding Francoism, as revealed by the fellow Francoist Al Kassad. The story he shared in Vox explains how Pacifica began to turn away from Francoism towards outright Imperialism during the reign of Moo, especially around the time of the Moldavi Rebellion.

I'm sorry, Space Cadet, but Francoism does not exist even as a pseudo-philosophy. There are no fixed principles, not original ideas or synthesized thoughts. It is merely a word tossed around by Vladimir whenever the NPO needs to justify the unjustifiable. Sure, most people will see it for what it is, but there are enough fools and madmen around who will swallow it hook, line, and sinker that it is still worthy of the arsenal. Which are you?

[The Zigur]

I'm sorry, Space Cadet, but Francoism does not exist even as a pseudo-philosophy. There are no fixed principles, not original ideas or synthesized thoughts. It is merely a word tossed around by Vladimir whenever the NPO needs to justify the unjustifiable. Sure, most people will see it for what it is, but there are enough fools and madmen around who will swallow it hook, line, and sinker that it is still worthy of the arsenal. Which are you?

 

You are a perpetual broken record, but allow me to try to enlighten you in the absence of the forerunners.

 

Francoism is the analysis of material conditions that predates our world and arrived from the August Revolution in The Pacific over a decade ago. Francoism is an analysis that endorses the post-revolutionary society, and furthermore, provides a template for a successful alliance and hegemony.

 

Francoism posits the following:

 

*That Chaos is the State of Nature and the normal state of affairs among Nations

*That in the State of Nature, Nations are at constant war and unable to achieve their full potential

*That Ordered Anarchy allows Nations to escape the State of Nature without resulting in class warfare

*That groups of Nations establish Ordered Anarchy from Chaos by surrendering National sovereignty to an alliance government

*That multiple alliances form a civilization by respect the sovereignty of other alliances and adopting common legal practices

*That a unicultural civilization, also called a Hegemony, is capable of granting all Nations Freedom of Potential

*That to preserve the unicultural civilization, war must be waged against incompatible, anti-Order philosophies like lulzism

 

It also posits concepts like democratic autocracy, where all power and all will is voiced through one strong leader, and that this form of alliance government is the most efficient in nature. This is why NPO began to leave the path of Francoism when the Imperial Officers became too powerful and the Emperor too weak. It lead to the adoption of Imperialism and the abuse of Pacifican authority, leading to the Vox Populi revolution.

 

Another important fact is that Francoism seeks class unity through cultural unity and rejects the dominance of a Userite class over a Feederite class, or a bourgeois class over a proletarian class. Thus, for Ordered Anarchy to work, everyone must be on the same page, adopting the same common practices. The predominant form of civilization has always been Francoist, represented by traditions brought over from the forerunners of The Pacific such as the mutual defense pact, the alliance charter, and the recognition of alliance sovereignty.

 

When this is fully understood, it becomes clear why so-called liberal thinking is inherently incompatible with the civilization represented in most traditional alliances today. This dangerous thought process championed by some like DBDC leads back to chaos, class warfare and the destruction of civilization as we know it.

[Rebel Virginia]

Thank you, I believe I now understand. You are not a fool. You are merely a lunatic who subscribes to a philosophy that even its alleged founders deny exists. Go along then. I shall trouble you no more.

[Farrin Xies]

Francoism has nothing to do with this neutral kerfluffle. Please stop trying to sound cool, edgy, and intelligent... for you are none of those things.