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The ever bitter Dre4m War- part 2

Lucius Optimus

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So in my first piece I touched on how the Limitless Coalition could potentially "win" this war. Because of the destruction wrought on the Libertarian Party during the conflict, Meth's best (and only) option is a full scale assault on the lower tier nations of STRIPES, Kashmir and NSO. Pretty much every active nation under 10k NS would have to be hit repeatedly. This would have the effect of paralyzing the Dre4mers ability to grow their small nations. It is an uncouth underhanded way to fight the war; but it is very valid. The hope is that Meth would be able to continue this type of warfare for long enough that the leadership and membership would just get tired of fighting this way and sue for peace to end it. How long would that take? couldn't say...three weeks? three months? a year? until STAR WARS episode X? who knows. But most of the danger here can be avoided using peace mode.

Now for the Dre4mers the road to total victory is slightly more treacherous. But I believe there is a way so I submit to you-

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Lucius's grand plan to end the Dre4m War

(for good)

First thing we must understand when fighting people like the Libertarian Party of CN is that things like: nation strength, nuclear anarchy, nation development, infrastructure, self preservation, war chests, and paying tech deals matter very little to them. So how does one deal with the near completely unreasonable? SRA and Kash tried to end the war quickly by simply rolling 80% of the LN allies yet Meth shows no sign of calling it quits. When we are faced with challenges like these we have look beyond the battlefield and into the politics that brought about this great little war. Why is Meth at war in the first place? I think it all boils down to his senate seat. He campaigned hard to get it, so now he fights harder to keep it. Thats right, in order to win the war I propose that the Dre4mers re-destabilize the Brown Sphere.

PHASE 1- Identify LN sympathizers

This phase will involve a lot of research into brown voting. Identifying Meths voters outside the main group and convincing them to not vote libertarian...by any means necessary. At 228 active brown nations and of those only 138 allowed to vote, there can't be that many targets. Between \m/, STRIPES and NSO it will be easy to identify and track the meth supporters, keeping them in the crosshairs. While this is going on, nations in range of Meth, Sigrun, Jonesville, and pacifis will continue keeping them in anarchy. This will help to minimize the risk of them striking back.

PHASE 2- The moneybags

The Dre4mers must endeavor to stop Meths foreign backers. This is perhaps the most dangerous part of the operation as there may be severe consequences for attacking The Grand Lodge of Freemasons and increase the chance of expanding the war further.

Breaking Sigrun is also key here as she seams to help hold the Meth coalition together financially. If Sigrun quits, Meth will have to think about it.

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PHASE 3- Invasion of Brown

After making pacts with major brown alliances, the Dre4mers coalition will then switch however many nations they need to brown team. Of course they will be immediately exposed to sanctions by Meth but the sanctions should be expected. The goal here will be to further weaken the Meth base on Brown and eventually elect a senator to counter him. If all went perfectly Meth should be driven from the senate and therefor powerless. At the same time, Kashmir must be watchful of a attempt by Meth to move his base to yellow.

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PHASE 4- the finishing move

With Meth and company effectively cut off from any major aid and vulnerable to sanctions, the Dre4mers would move in and attempt to bill-lock Meth and his main backers. Bill-locked and unable to continue fighting meth would ask nicely for peace on the Dre4mers terms. And the war would (hopefully) be over.

estimated completion time: three to five months

Messy? yup.. :facepalm:

Unreasonably complex? perhaps... :mellow:

Necessary? absolutely. Of course we could always have a delay of game until 2016 :war:

Please keep in mind this is all in theory. The war could go anywhere from here.

Part three will look into possible outcomes, treaties, and the general aftermath of the Dre4m War, And how it could effect the micro community.



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Because surely this will work...

You are wrong from your analysis, Methrage didn't fight for a senator position- he ran peacefully.

He fought as a consequence of winning the senate position.

But hey- knock yourself out

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Meth, take your trophy, namely that Brown Senate seat, accept defeat in the war, and move on. If you are trying to get revenge on Kashmir for making you look a bit silly and somewhat incompetent, it's not going to happen during this war.

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Meth, take your trophy, namely that Brown Senate seat, accept defeat in the war, and move on. If you are trying to get revenge on Kashmir for making you look a bit silly and somewhat incompetent, it's not going to happen during this war.

May not- and we won't give them the 'surrender' they want and so we will continue fighting their lower teir

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May not- and we won't give them the 'surrender' they want and so we will continue fighting their lower teir

So screw the lower tier people in your alliance we must fight over the 'S' word? How noble...I mean after all, you are fighting the bad guys to the last peasant.

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My alliance is all for it. Do you think the pressures of a surrender we don't want is a discussion? No- we mainly bs about you tube videos and King neptunes inability to access good beer per his geographical location.

Per who we are fighting- click click, done

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Here's a better idea.

You could just quit being evil.

Yes. I have no idea who you are.

Lol why am I not surprised.

He's TDE's flunky.

So screw the lower tier people in your alliance we must fight over the 'S' word? How noble...I mean after all, you are fighting the bad guys to the last peasant.

Hal, oh Hal, how far you have fallen. :(

The 'lower tier people' in his alliance would be - wait for it - him

So he's the person you think he is screwing over. He is by far the hardest hit of us all.

He's doing what's right, and that is it's own reward. You used to at least pretend to understand that.

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Here's a better idea.

You could just quit being evil

Oh so I am evil for trying to have an intelligent conversation about the tactics that could end the war? I do believe I have struck a nerve....perhaps you are afraid that if these tactics are employed you and your significant other could lose it all?

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Meth, take your trophy, namely that Brown Senate seat, accept defeat in the war, and move on. If you are trying to get revenge on Kashmir for making you look a bit silly and somewhat incompetent, it's not going to happen during this war.

My nation exists to help others & improve the state of the world. Opportunists who want to bandwaggon in late expecting a surrender will get what's coming to them.

I've always been willing to sacrifice everything in the pursuit of what is right & my nation will survive as long as there are still those who want to see justice. When there is no one left who cares about justice & what is right; then maybe my nation will cease to exist. However I don't see that happening anytime soon.

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When you are talking about ways to end an aggressive war from your side against mine and you don't even spend a single sentence on any option that doesnt involve exterminating us, I think it's appropriate to point that out.

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When you are talking about ways to end an aggressive war from your side against mine and you don't even spend a single sentence on any option that doesnt involve exterminating us, I think it's appropriate to point that out.

WRONG! read the thing! The first paragraph is all about how your side has to fight it. Don't blame me for how few options you appear to have from the eyes of the observer. Towards the end I mention delaying the war. And this is part of a series, THE LAST PART talks about outcomes and how the war may conclude.

Wow...this post isn't called "The ever bitter Dre4m War" for nothing...

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WRONG! read the thing! The first paragraph is all about how your side has to fight it. Don't blame me for how few options you appear to have from the eyes of the observer. Towards the end I mention delaying the war. And this is part of a series, THE LAST PART talks about outcomes and how the war may conclude.

Wow...this post isn't called "The ever bitter Dre4m War" for nothing...

and it is bitter... very bitter- the fact is that while your side pretends the war is going well- in reality they didn't expect us to perma war their noobs..

why? because it's war. It will drag on for years (I hope) until your side accepts the peace we offered.

and that's it. they can carry on about their demands all they want- and the ever bitterness is that they are now in no shape to negotiate- they pretend to be- but hey, bills are cheap and we can fight for ever

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It wont last years, at most, it will last months, when the very last of your money dries up, and you ragequit because you refused to surrender and couldn't continue fighting without any cash reserves.

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It wont last years, at most, it will last months, when the very last of your money dries up, and you ragequit because you refused to surrender and couldn't continue fighting without any cash reserves.

I can assure you that 'raging quitting' isn't on the radar, LOL, my blood doesn't boil enough on this planet to get anything remotely close to a feeling of anger. I embrace my IC and RP on

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and it is bitter... very bitter- the fact is that while your side pretends the war is going well- in reality they didn't expect us to perma war their noobs..

why? because it's war. It will drag on for years (I hope) until your side accepts the peace we offered.

and that's it. they can carry on about their demands all they want- and the ever bitterness is that they are now in no shape to negotiate- they pretend to be- but hey, bills are cheap and we can fight for ever

You can stop repeating what I have already said in the blog now.

Phrases like Permawar and "extermination" are being thrown around far to often when this war is discussed. Would you believe that I actually don't want to "exterminate" the Meth party, and I don't want to drive anyone from CN either. But I would see you beaten...oh yes. I want you so badly defeated that history will have no right to try and question it. But you waging a perma war on new nation will drive just as many from CN as your extermination would. Both sides need to wake up and smell the roses. However, I have the feeling that neither side I ready for peace.

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You can stop repeating what I have already said in the blog now.

Phrases like Permawar and "extermination" are being thrown around far to often when this war is discussed. Would you believe that I actually don't want to "exterminate" the Meth party, and I don't want to drive anyone from CN either. But I would see you beaten...oh yes. I want you so badly defeated that history will have no right to try and question it. But you waging a perma war on new nation will drive just as many from CN as your extermination would. Both sides need to wake up and smell the roses. However, I have the feeling that neither side I ready for peace.

And that's why the war continues. Our side IS ready for peace, what we aren't ready for is the demands set forth

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Well, I'm not in charge of that. I'm just strategizing.

Here's something to think about- and personally, I enjoy your blog- one thing we can agree on is that 'micro AAs' are for lack of a better term, more fun.

With that, let's examine what this war is even called, "the dre4m war".

Named after a member who isn't even fighting anymore- he gave up.

So a war that he started and a war that your side is backing isn't even part of the war anymore- so now ask yourself, why are you still fighting the dre4m war named after a person who isn't even supporting it himself.

Bottom line, some sort of ego boost that will enevitably cause more purges and exterminations from both sides that aren't neccessary and in the long run will hurt you more than it will hurt us.

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