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In regards to your first question, hell no.

In regards to the second:

1. Illmatic (Nas)

2. Graduation (Kanye West)

3. Late Registration (Kanye West)

4. College Dropout (Kanye West)

5. I want to say Ready to Die (Biggie), but I need to hear the whole thing.

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1. My Beautiful Dark Twisted Fantasy - Kanye

2. Illmatic - Nas

3. The Chronic - Dr. Dre

4. All Eyez On Me - Tupac

5. Carter II - Lil Wayne

Imagine if Wayne kept his edge and didn't evolve into the guy who made "Wowzerz"

the rest of my top 10:

6. Late Registration - Kanye

7. Section.80 - Kendrick Lamar

8. Lupe Fiasco's The Cool - Lupe Fiasco

9. Man on the Moon II: The Legend of Mr. Rager - Kid Cudi

10. Resurrection - Common

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Loki you have too much Kanye in the top five, yea, sure he's a great artist but 3/5 of the top five?

1. Nas - Illmatic

2. A Tribe Called Quest - The Low End Theory

3. Dre - The Chronic

4. B.I.G - Ready To Die

5. Nelly - Country Grammar

1. I don't think anyone can argue with Illmatic being number one.

2. I was actually surprised not to see 'Tribe' in your top fives. Lyrically great, and musically great.

3. Again, don't think anyone could argue with 'The Chronic'

4. I struggled putting B.I.G. into my top five, it's a solid album across the board, I just love Biggie more than Pac.

5. Top five, I find this album to be the advent of the artists we listen to now.

EDIT: top Ten

6. Kanye West - Graduation

7. Kid Cudi - Man On The Moon: The End Of Day

8. N.W.A - Straight Outta Compton

9. Tupac - All Eyez On Me

10. Jay - Z - Reasonable Doubt

Honorable Mention For Top Ten: Kid Inks 'My Own Lane' Give it time to catch fire.

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I see more 50 Cent in current artists, but Nelly is a big influence in the Midwestern scene. ATCQ is great, and if this were artists, they would be top 5 -- especially if we're counting what Q-Tip is continuing to do.

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Loki you have too much Kanye in the top five, yea, sure he's a great artist but 3/5 of the top five?

1. Nas - Illmatic

2. A Tribe Called Quest - The Low End Theory

3. Dre - The Chronic

4. B.I.G - Ready To Die

5. Nelly - Country Grammar

1. I don't think anyone can argue with Illmatic being number one.

2. I was actually surprised not to see 'Tribe' in your top fives. Lyrically great, and musically great.

3. Again, don't think anyone could argue with 'The Chronic'

4. I struggled putting B.I.G. into my top five, it's a solid album across the board, I just love Biggie more than Pac.

5. Top five, I find this album to be the advent of the artists we listen to now.

EDIT: top Ten

6. Kanye West - Graduation

7. Kid Cudi - Man On The Moon: The End Of Day

8. N.W.A - Straight Outta Compton

9. Tupac - All Eyez On Me

10. Jay - Z - Reasonable Doubt

Honorable Mention For Top Ten: Kid Inks 'My Own Lane' Give it time to catch fire.

Kanye's first three albums were, imo, when he was at his best creative-wise. They're all classics. Before he started acting all gay.

Nelly sucks and is the perfect example of what I like to call an "arcade rapper": You're in the game for a little bit, but once you run out of tokens (buzz) it's game over. He was popular for the time, but his !@#$ sounded the same and he eventually faded into irrelevancy.

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Nelly sucks and is the perfect example of what I like to call an "arcade rapper": You're in the game for a little bit, but once you run out of tokens (buzz) it's game over. He was popular for the time, but his !@#$ sounded the same and he eventually faded into irrelevancy.

That's really harsh to say, because you can say that about a lot of rappers, especially like Kanye. Even though he had some great albums, he's a joke now-a-days. You can see how Country Grammar affected a lot of the people coming out now, and has played a roll in developing their style.

It's like people saying they like Biggie more than Pac, and putting Pac down into top 10/15, even though we all know he had one of the best albums ever. Just because you don't like someone, and you think they're irrelevant doesn't mean they didn't have an album that affect a lot of the artists that came after them.

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Neo Uruk has some good taste

For me:

1. Carter II/dedication 3/carter III

2. 808s and heartbreak/Yeezus/twisted fantasy

3. The Recession

4. The Massacre

5. (Stoner special) Man on the Moon/Mac and devin soundtrack/The newest 2chainz album

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Kanye is a "joke" shipping units on an album that completely broke out of his mold. Yeezus isn't anything compared to MBDTF, but it is still a decent album. Not sure I'd call it hip-hop or rap by any means.

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Kanye aint no joke... youngsters trynna downplay him... just like they try and marginalize me in this game... but kanye and I are very similar and thus we retain relevancy

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That's really harsh to say, because you can say that about a lot of rappers, especially like Kanye. Even though he had some great albums, he's a joke now-a-days. You can see how Country Grammar affected a lot of the people coming out now, and has played a roll in developing their style.

It's like people saying they like Biggie more than Pac, and putting Pac down into top 10/15, even though we all know he had one of the best albums ever. Just because you don't like someone, and you think they're irrelevant doesn't mean they didn't have an album that affect a lot of the artists that came after them.

Yea, you definitely could say the same about a lot of other rappers. You're also right about Nelly influencing today's rappers, especially considering the fact that the majority of rap nowadays is manufactured, cookie-cutter garbage. I respect your opinion but I personally wouldn't put Nelly anywhere near Top 10, much less Top 5.

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Dr. Octagon / Dr. Octagonologist

Wu-Tang / Enter the 36 Chambers

DMX / And Then There Was X

Atmosphere / Sevens Travels - You Cant Imagine How Much Fun Were Having

Cage (before he went christian), Necro and The Smut Peddlers

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Jay Z is, honestly, just consistently "good." None of his albums have stood out as classic, or even album of the year material imo

I'm more surprised there's no Outkast.

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See, i'm not exactly sure where Em falls for me, I like him, but he's just not my taste in rap. He has some great songs, i'm not sure any one album he has done get's into my top 20. If we just base it on my most favorite, not actual talent, and message.

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