Country Grammar Entry posted by BringMeTheHorizon March 15, 2014 1,226 views Share More sharing options... Followers 0 Is country grammar (nelly's debut) top five all time? Subsequently, what would your top five, rap/hiphop albums be? Report Entry
Malik Shabazz Posted March 16, 2014 Report Share In regards to your first question, hell no. In regards to the second: 1. Illmatic (Nas) 2. Graduation (Kanye West) 3. Late Registration (Kanye West) 4. College Dropout (Kanye West) 5. I want to say Ready to Die (Biggie), but I need to hear the whole thing. Quote Link to comment
Neo Uruk Posted March 16, 2014 Report Share 1. My Beautiful Dark Twisted Fantasy - Kanye 2. Illmatic - Nas 3. The Chronic - Dr. Dre 4. All Eyez On Me - Tupac 5. Carter II - Lil Wayne Imagine if Wayne kept his edge and didn't evolve into the guy who made "Wowzerz" the rest of my top 10: 6. Late Registration - Kanye 7. Section.80 - Kendrick Lamar 8. Lupe Fiasco's The Cool - Lupe Fiasco 9. Man on the Moon II: The Legend of Mr. Rager - Kid Cudi 10. Resurrection - Common Quote Link to comment
BringMeTheHorizon Posted March 16, 2014 Report Share Loki you have too much Kanye in the top five, yea, sure he's a great artist but 3/5 of the top five? 1. Nas - Illmatic 2. A Tribe Called Quest - The Low End Theory 3. Dre - The Chronic 4. B.I.G - Ready To Die 5. Nelly - Country Grammar 1. I don't think anyone can argue with Illmatic being number one. 2. I was actually surprised not to see 'Tribe' in your top fives. Lyrically great, and musically great. 3. Again, don't think anyone could argue with 'The Chronic' 4. I struggled putting B.I.G. into my top five, it's a solid album across the board, I just love Biggie more than Pac. 5. Top five, I find this album to be the advent of the artists we listen to now. EDIT: top Ten 6. Kanye West - Graduation 7. Kid Cudi - Man On The Moon: The End Of Day 8. N.W.A - Straight Outta Compton 9. Tupac - All Eyez On Me 10. Jay - Z - Reasonable Doubt Honorable Mention For Top Ten: Kid Inks 'My Own Lane' Give it time to catch fire. Quote Link to comment
Neo Uruk Posted March 16, 2014 Report Share I see more 50 Cent in current artists, but Nelly is a big influence in the Midwestern scene. ATCQ is great, and if this were artists, they would be top 5 -- especially if we're counting what Q-Tip is continuing to do. Quote Link to comment
Malik Shabazz Posted March 16, 2014 Report Share Loki you have too much Kanye in the top five, yea, sure he's a great artist but 3/5 of the top five? 1. Nas - Illmatic 2. A Tribe Called Quest - The Low End Theory 3. Dre - The Chronic 4. B.I.G - Ready To Die 5. Nelly - Country Grammar 1. I don't think anyone can argue with Illmatic being number one. 2. I was actually surprised not to see 'Tribe' in your top fives. Lyrically great, and musically great. 3. Again, don't think anyone could argue with 'The Chronic' 4. I struggled putting B.I.G. into my top five, it's a solid album across the board, I just love Biggie more than Pac. 5. Top five, I find this album to be the advent of the artists we listen to now. EDIT: top Ten 6. Kanye West - Graduation 7. Kid Cudi - Man On The Moon: The End Of Day 8. N.W.A - Straight Outta Compton 9. Tupac - All Eyez On Me 10. Jay - Z - Reasonable Doubt Honorable Mention For Top Ten: Kid Inks 'My Own Lane' Give it time to catch fire. Kanye's first three albums were, imo, when he was at his best creative-wise. They're all classics. Before he started acting all gay. Nelly sucks and is the perfect example of what I like to call an "arcade rapper": You're in the game for a little bit, but once you run out of tokens (buzz) it's game over. He was popular for the time, but his !@#$ sounded the same and he eventually faded into irrelevancy. Quote Link to comment
BringMeTheHorizon Posted March 16, 2014 Report Share Nelly sucks and is the perfect example of what I like to call an "arcade rapper": You're in the game for a little bit, but once you run out of tokens (buzz) it's game over. He was popular for the time, but his !@#$ sounded the same and he eventually faded into irrelevancy. That's really harsh to say, because you can say that about a lot of rappers, especially like Kanye. Even though he had some great albums, he's a joke now-a-days. You can see how Country Grammar affected a lot of the people coming out now, and has played a roll in developing their style. It's like people saying they like Biggie more than Pac, and putting Pac down into top 10/15, even though we all know he had one of the best albums ever. Just because you don't like someone, and you think they're irrelevant doesn't mean they didn't have an album that affect a lot of the artists that came after them. Quote Link to comment
The Zigur Posted March 16, 2014 Report Share Neo Uruk has some good taste For me: 1. Carter II/dedication 3/carter III 2. 808s and heartbreak/Yeezus/twisted fantasy 3. The Recession 4. The Massacre 5. (Stoner special) Man on the Moon/Mac and devin soundtrack/The newest 2chainz album Quote Link to comment
The Zigur Posted March 16, 2014 Report Share Nelly will never be on the top tier of rappers. He is down there with Flo Rida Quote Link to comment
Neo Uruk Posted March 16, 2014 Report Share Kanye is a "joke" shipping units on an album that completely broke out of his mold. Yeezus isn't anything compared to MBDTF, but it is still a decent album. Not sure I'd call it hip-hop or rap by any means. Quote Link to comment
The Zigur Posted March 16, 2014 Report Share Kanye aint no joke... youngsters trynna downplay him... just like they try and marginalize me in this game... but kanye and I are very similar and thus we retain relevancy Quote Link to comment
Malik Shabazz Posted March 16, 2014 Report Share That's really harsh to say, because you can say that about a lot of rappers, especially like Kanye. Even though he had some great albums, he's a joke now-a-days. You can see how Country Grammar affected a lot of the people coming out now, and has played a roll in developing their style. It's like people saying they like Biggie more than Pac, and putting Pac down into top 10/15, even though we all know he had one of the best albums ever. Just because you don't like someone, and you think they're irrelevant doesn't mean they didn't have an album that affect a lot of the artists that came after them. Yea, you definitely could say the same about a lot of other rappers. You're also right about Nelly influencing today's rappers, especially considering the fact that the majority of rap nowadays is manufactured, cookie-cutter garbage. I respect your opinion but I personally wouldn't put Nelly anywhere near Top 10, much less Top 5. Quote Link to comment
Neo Uruk Posted March 16, 2014 Report Share Country Grammar is a top 25 album. Nelly is a top 10 rapper for the last decade Quote Link to comment
Malik Shabazz Posted March 16, 2014 Report Share Country Grammar is a top 25 album. Nelly is a top 10 rapper for the last decade You mean in terms of skill or popularity? Guy hasn't been relevant since like 2006. Quote Link to comment
Mogar Posted March 16, 2014 Report Share Illmatic Life After Death Reasonable Doubt The Marshall Mathers LP Get Rich or Die Tryin' would probably be my top 5 Quote Link to comment
Xanth Posted March 16, 2014 Report Share Dr. Octagon / Dr. Octagonologist Wu-Tang / Enter the 36 Chambers DMX / And Then There Was X Atmosphere / Sevens Travels - You Cant Imagine How Much Fun Were Having Cage (before he went christian), Necro and The Smut Peddlers Quote Link to comment
Mogar Posted March 16, 2014 Report Share 3 of your top 5 would be in my top ten xanth Quote Link to comment
BringMeTheHorizon Posted March 16, 2014 Report Share I'm actually kind of surprised no one is giving Jigga-man any respect here. Quote Link to comment
Neo Uruk Posted March 16, 2014 Report Share Jay Z is, honestly, just consistently "good." None of his albums have stood out as classic, or even album of the year material imo I'm more surprised there's no Outkast. Quote Link to comment
BringMeTheHorizon Posted March 16, 2014 Report Share I'd say the same thing as you about OutKast. I think they're good, had some good hits, but any I couldn't point to any one single album to make my top 20. Quote Link to comment
Neo Uruk Posted March 16, 2014 Report Share I'm assuming you haven't listened to Aquemini in full :| Quote Link to comment
BringMeTheHorizon Posted March 16, 2014 Report Share Never in one sit, but in a day yes. Don't get me wrong, it was good, but not in my top 20. Quote Link to comment
Mogar Posted March 16, 2014 Report Share reasonable doubt was jay z's only really WOW album, the rest had singles but never that full album feel. Quote Link to comment
WarriorSoul Posted March 16, 2014 Report Share Not sure if I'd put MMLP in my top 5, but you have to give Eminem some credit for that one - it's #6 at worst. Quote Link to comment
BringMeTheHorizon Posted March 17, 2014 Report Share See, i'm not exactly sure where Em falls for me, I like him, but he's just not my taste in rap. He has some great songs, i'm not sure any one album he has done get's into my top 20. If we just base it on my most favorite, not actual talent, and message. Quote Link to comment
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