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I have a feeling the Marshall Mathers LP II will have a Beastie Boys kind of feel. At first, I was shocked at irony since if he is going to trace back the same footsteps he went through ten years ago, then he is basically whipping his ass with a copy of the Recovery album and saying that Recovery was nothing but a load of BS. And you guys want to know what is even more ironic? The same fans of Beastie Boys and strong believers of horrorcore Shady who have spit against Recovery are now dissing the same Shady they have loved 10 years ago and saying that he is too old to be rapping about this stuff. First they accuse him of being pop, and now they are accusing him of being too old to rap about murder. MAKE UP YOUR $%&@IN MIND STANS!

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The only album of Em's I don't like is Encore. I like Relapse and Recovery, not as much as I do MMLP or The Eminem Show. Only reason I didn't like Berzerk the 1st time I listened to it was the style caught me off guard, I was expecting it to more Recovery like after Survival came out, and not Beastie Boys like. I'm sure a lot of people have been like "Woah, what was that" the first time they've heard this song, then they've listened to it again and liked it.

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Calling Eminem a "Legend" is like calling Justin Bieber a legend. They blow up, have their fun in the spot light, and decline. Legends last forever. Bands and singers like Michael Jackson, Nirvana, Aerosmith, Ozzy, even Elvis are legends. I wouldn't even consider Tupac, Dre, or System of a Down legends (yet). If people in the next twenty years remember Eminem for more than being white in a "black man's game", then he'll be a legend. Until then, he's alright.

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Tupac is a legend because he was stamped out before he really even hit his prime. He could probably have went until today, and done it with more versatility than Snoop.

Also, because he has a really nice home in Jamaica atm.

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Tupac is a legend because he was stamped out before he really even hit his prime. He could probably have went until today, and done it with more versatility than Snoop.

Also, because he has a really nice home in Jamaica atm.

Tupac did some really great work before he was killed. He could've stayed fresh all this time, or he could've just done the same old !@#$ for his entire career. We can only guess.

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The only album of Em's I don't like is Encore. I like Relapse and Recovery, not as much as I do MMLP or The Eminem Show. Only reason I didn't like Berzerk the 1st time I listened to it was the style caught me off guard, I was expecting it to more Recovery like after Survival came out, and not Beastie Boys like. I'm sure a lot of people have been like "Woah, what was that" the first time they've heard this song, then they've listened to it again and liked it.

Strongly agreed. I expected this upcoming album to have the same production as Recovery but like always, Mr. Mathers always catches the world by surprise every time.

He sure revolutionized the rap game by doing the same !@#$ Mac Miller did two years ago!

Do not compare Eminem to Mac Miller. He is not a swag fack rapper that literally runs away from those people that assisted him to get to the top and raps about smoking weed. He has revolutionized the rap game by cheating the industry and using free speech, good music, and the truth as his primary source for fame, not the !@#$%^&* most rappers put out nowadays. Listen to Eminem Show, Marshall Mathers LP, Recovery (expect bad instrumentals but great lyricism and flow), and Infinite.

Calling Eminem a "Legend" is like calling Justin Bieber a legend. They blow up, have their fun in the spot light, and decline. Legends last forever. Bands and singers like Michael Jackson, Nirvana, Aerosmith, Ozzy, even Elvis are legends. I wouldn't even consider Tupac, Dre, or System of a Down legends (yet). If people in the next twenty years remember Eminem for more than being white in a "black man's game", then he'll be a legend. Until then, he's alright.

Zacharias, I know you have not noticed, but it has been nearly 15 years since he rose to fame. Hell, throw in an extra 5 if you include his years in the underground. Eminem might not be hailed as much as Aerosmith and the Beatles, but he is sure viewed as one in the rap game.

"musicheads"

delete this blog 2013

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Pretty sure Eminem is only famous because he's white.

Maybe, maybe not. The only important objective that seems relevant is that he is good at rap, and he is beyond good; he is one of the best. It is not only me that believes so, big names have called Eminem to be a legend and if you are keen to spot the clever wordplay he presents to the table, then you can see why he is an icon at rap. Maybe not to the music world, but he definitely is on the same league Big, Nas and Pac are in.

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All those guys are overrated and have only dropped one to two good albums ever. Eminem can't make good music. He makes clever rap in the same way Call Of Duty makes a good video game, and Dane Cook does good standup. It's good if you still think dick jokes are funny.

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All those guys are overrated and have only dropped one to two good albums ever. Eminem can't make good music. He makes clever rap in the same way Call Of Duty makes a good video game, and Dane Cook does good standup. It's good if you still think dick jokes are funny.

Check out The Eminem Show and Recovery. Both albums have displayed great content of lyricism that did not mostly have explicit jokes and commentary.

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no they haven't

I find it ironic you say The Eminem Show displays no great content when you have admitted yourself in one of your earliest blogs that if he produces and album like the Eminem Show, you will gain greater respect for him, and I quote:

Fair enough. If he drops another Eminem Show I'll give him his due credit.

What do you have to say now that I have exposed you of your hypocrisy once again.

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And I quote:

Check out The Eminem Show and Recovery. Both albums have displayed great content of lyricism that did not mostly have explicit jokes and commentary.

What do you have to say now that I have exposed you of your illiteracy once again.

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Check out The Eminem Show and Recovery. Both albums have displayed great content of lyricism that did not mostly have explicit jokes and commentary.

No they weren't. They dealt with his relation with the women in his life like all of his albums have, with no real internal examination on why his relationships with women are violent and hostile, but just furthers his misogynistic views. And that's the only thing he has. Sophomoric jokes and misogynistic ideas. And while is rhyme density is off the richter scale, he's literally rapping about 3 different things, there's no self-growth or artistic growth. He's just found a way to repackage his ideals for however many albums he has.

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And I quote:

What do you have to say now that I have exposed you of your illiteracy once again.

Stop biting your own tongue, kid. All you have to do is admit your wrongdoings/hypocrisy and your fall will be cushioned. I am entitled to my opinion, you are entitled to yours. I am not attacking you for your musical preferences, I expect you not to do so as well.

Serving as a sidenote, I absolutely awe in irony whenever any Eminem and/or "Lyrical" Fanboy calls Marshall's Recovery Album whack. It might not have the best instrumentals or hooks but it consists of great wordplay, flow, and lyricism which is all I have to ask when considering a song great or not. Maybe Eminem has put out Recovery for the sake of his public image and cleansing out the true traitors and fake "lyrical-rap" fans, maybe it was just to gain a more larger audience to re-convert as Slim Shady and be heard more than he ever was 10 years ago. All I know is that I was left satisfied with Recovery, not by the beats, but by the prowess Eminem introduced into that album.

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No they weren't. They dealt with his relation with the women in his life like all of his albums have, with no real internal examination on why his relationships with women are violent and hostile, but just furthers his misogynistic views. And that's the only thing he has. Sophomoric jokes and misogynistic ideas. And while is rhyme density is off the richter scale, he's literally rapping about 3 different things, there's no self-growth or artistic growth. He's just found a way to repackage his ideals for however many albums he has.

Oof, really? He only mentions his connection with women in a couple of his songs in each album (most of them to be about Hailie, mainly), but not all of his tracks relate to his views in marriage and women. Gosh, how many times do I have to copy and paste this list of Eminem tracks for people to understand that Eminem is not a rapping stand-up comedian with a dirty sense of humor!

Eminem has done plenty of anti-government propaganda, such as White America, Square Dance, and Mosh (Mosh being the greatest Anti-Gov track I have ever heard in hip-hop). Eminem is recognized for his social commentary as well. Just check out Dont Approach Me, No Apologies, Say Goodbye Hollywood, Soldier, Like Toy Soldiers, When the Music Stops, Till I Collapse, Amityville, Marshall Mathers, Way I Am, Not Afraid, Going Through Changes, Cinderella Man, 25 to Life (hell, throw in all of the Recoery album into this category), Beautiful, Careful What You Wish For, My Darling, Rock Bottom, Hip-Hop, 8 Mile Road, Lose Yourself, Rabbit Run, Renegade, Syllables, just to name a few.

Last time I am posting this list! (Maybe once more on the "Why Eminem Is the GOAT" entry to my blog that is coming soon :P )

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I've never claimed to be a "lyrical" rap fan, Lupe Fiasco has fallen off hard. I do like good music and artistic growth, however, which artists like Kid Cudi, Kendrick Lamar, Big Sean (HoF early AOTY), and Kanye West have all displayed.

Also how are you gonna talk about "kid" when you're like 13

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I thought how Eminem's only good political commentary was when he can make two graphic songs about killing a woman he knows and get loved for it. I'm not sure if you've listened to Kim or 96 Bonnie and Clyde, but that's not really something to be celebrating as a breath of fresh air. If you really think Mosh was really the best anti-establishment song you've ever heard then you might want to listen to Black Flag, or any punk rock group. And if you want rap you might want to listen to The Coup, Dead Prez, Killer Mike, even Immortal Technique and his crew. Even Kanye West has offered more social commentary at the main stage of hip hop than any other rapper.

But if you're a teenager, I understand your love for Eminem, he's a great lightening rod to channel your teenage angst.

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Maybe, maybe not. The only important objective that seems relevant is that he is good at rap, and he is beyond good; he is one of the best. It is not only me that believes so, big names have called Eminem to be a legend and if you are keen to spot the clever wordplay he presents to the table, then you can see why he is an icon at rap. Maybe not to the music world, but he definitely is on the same league Big, Nas and Pac are in.

If Eminem was Latino or black, he wouldn't of blew up like he did. Plus of the the attention he got from his legal battles and the negative publicity he got from his lyrics helped as well.

I really love it when people say Eminem is good because of his "clever wordplay" or his "lyricism". Anyone can use metaphors, similes, alliteration, and all of the other types of literary devices. Practically every rapper uses those devices, hell, any person that has written a song uses those types of things. I'll give him credit in his free-styling skills, not anyone can do that, but anyone with a middle school education can use metaphors, similes, etc.

Like Believland mentioned, he has been doing the same !@#$ for the past 15 years. His biggest change had to be with Relapse and other album after that (the name escapes me a the moment).

Zacharias, I know you have not noticed, but it has been nearly 15 years since he rose to fame. Hell, throw in an extra 5 if you include his years in the underground. Eminem might not be hailed as much as Aerosmith and the Beatles, but he is sure viewed as one in the rap game.

Simply existing doesn't make him a legend.

You can't say he rose to fame simply because of his lyrics. Like I said before, all of his legal battles really put his out there as well.

Plus, having well respected members of the rap community saying you're good (Dre and Snoop come to mind), people are going to listen.

Honestly, I would consider Insane Clown Posse more of a legend than Eminem, mostly because they rose to the top on their own. They weren't "Discovered" like Eminem was. They fought to were they are now, Eminem was placed pretty damn near the top. That's why I place Eminem in the same boat as Justin Beiber.

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