Monster Posted February 14, 2012 Report Share Posted February 14, 2012 (edited) [b]I. Equality[/b] I assert a fundamental Hobbesian equality amongst all nation rulers. In the Leviathan, Thomas Hobbes asserts that there is no distinguishing characteristic amongst men because you can beat the strongest one through numbers or deceit. Joan of Arc was able to lead the hapless French army to several victories despite her just being a peasant girl. I may know more about politics and game mechanics than you do, but I am not inherently better than any of you. I just spent a lot of time learning about it. [b]II. Neuroplasticity[/b] Our brains are able to be reconfigured to perform at higher capacities. This means if someone learns how to coordinate attacks, eventually, they'll be able to do it intuitively without instruction. TOP was mocked for never having fought, but by following the guides and extensive drilling they were able to do a lot of damage. [b]III. Good Will[/b] People should generally adopt an easy-going attitude towards others, particularly those down on their luck. This doesn't apply if the other parties are vainglorious. [b]IV. Truthfulness[/b] Nation rulers should try not to dance around issues or make things up. Being a straight shooter as often as possible is the best way to ensure you do not end up in contradictions or having stances that come back to haunt you in the future. Edited February 14, 2012 by Donnerjack Moderator edit: moved to IC forum at post #50 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Voytek Posted February 14, 2012 Report Share Posted February 14, 2012 sounds good Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rush Sykes Posted February 14, 2012 Report Share Posted February 14, 2012 Nope. No ego here at all. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monster Posted February 14, 2012 Author Report Share Posted February 14, 2012 (edited) I was just thinking of naming it egalitarian idealism, but idealism has a lot of other connotations that I'm not comfortable with getting in bed with given the neurocentric and fundamentally materialist nature of it. Edited February 14, 2012 by Roquentin Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D34th Posted February 14, 2012 Report Share Posted February 14, 2012 The image says everything. [img]http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-sUq1BBebxOQ/TxU9GmoxJ3I/AAAAAAAABuw/O18ctJ1iZrw/s1600/AttentionWhore.jpg[/img] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stewie Posted February 14, 2012 Report Share Posted February 14, 2012 D34th, for once I completely agree with one of your posts Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blacky Posted February 14, 2012 Report Share Posted February 14, 2012 Narcissism and hypocrisy seems to cover your attitude pretty well. 1) Nobody thinks that you are inherently better than them. You're projecting your thoughts onto others. 2) Again, the hypocrisy in regards to TOP especially considering the paranoia you whipped up is hilarious. But moreso you're again implying you're more intelligent than everybody. 3) This point is laden with cognitive biases ranging from illusory superiority to pessismism bias. Also you're projecting your own insecurities once again. (Projection bias) 4) ^ As above. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monster Posted February 14, 2012 Author Report Share Posted February 14, 2012 (edited) They might think I think I'm inherently better. That was the point of it. I don't. If I assert a fundamental equality, how can I think I'm better? Seriously. I already outlined my actual feelings on TOP before. If TOP hadn't treatied MK, I'd love them a lot more. One of my biggest regrets is ever helping MK with that. I wish I hadn't. I remember telling MK to stop trolling TOP in the midst of the TPF war since it was really agitating them. $%&@ off and $%&@ MK. Go back to 2008 where you belong, Blacky. That was your hey-day. Here you're just a worthless MK drone. Edited February 14, 2012 by Roquentin Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sardonic Posted February 14, 2012 Report Share Posted February 14, 2012 Roq, please calm down, you're dangerously close to crossing over into un-ironic toblerone triangular territory: [img]http://i.imgur.com/u84Kp.png[/img] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monster Posted February 14, 2012 Author Report Share Posted February 14, 2012 (edited) Sardonic, stop being an MK toadie. Thanks in advance. D34th, I think you're barking up the wrong tree. Want to play? Tyga does it and you're like "OH WOW TYGA SWOON" I do it and it's "attention whore." Grow up. Edited February 14, 2012 by Roquentin Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Laslo Kenez Posted February 14, 2012 Report Share Posted February 14, 2012 If you've learned so much about this game, why haven't you figured out that you're somehow managing to make Sparta look even less credible than before? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monster Posted February 14, 2012 Author Report Share Posted February 14, 2012 (edited) [quote name='Laslo Kenez' timestamp='1329225341' post='2920215'] If you've learned so much about this game, why haven't you figured out that you're somehow managing to make Sparta look even less credible than before? [/quote] WAE pitches in. In terms of Sparta's credibility, I'm not too worried about it. They can kick me out if they feel that way. We keep missing connections with GATO. Can you please make my day? I know being in C&G and being up on top with MK and co. has gotten to your head, but seriously. Why did I ever do anything to help GATO? Edited February 14, 2012 by Roquentin Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D34th Posted February 14, 2012 Report Share Posted February 14, 2012 [quote name='Stewie' timestamp='1329224817' post='2920210'] D34th, for once I completely agree with one of your posts [/quote] The funny thing is that your alliance suffers from the same disease. [quote name='Roquentin' timestamp='1329225177' post='2920214'] D34th, I think you're barking up the wrong tree. Want to play? Tyga does it and you're like "OH WOW TYGA SWOON" I do it and it's "attention whore." Grow up. [/quote] I grew enough already thank you. The problem with you is that you are suffering from some delusional sense of importance and while I appreciate see you and MK at each other's throat, as I said in the other thread, I do not forget that you were an accomplice of the crimes that you're now accusing MK of have commited. Also Tygaism was much more fun and had much better principles, are you jealous? [img]http://images1.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20090204155843/cybernations/images/7/70/Tygaist.png[/img] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Laslo Kenez Posted February 14, 2012 Report Share Posted February 14, 2012 (edited) [quote name='Roquentin' timestamp='1329225398' post='2920218'] WAE pitches in. In terms of Sparta's credibility, I'm not too worried about it. They can kick me out if they feel that way. We keep missing connections with GATO. Can you please make my day? I know being in C&G and being up on top with MK and co. has gotten to your head, but seriously. [/quote] A nickname that was earned and shed before I even joined the game. Being in C&G has nothing to do with making an objective criticism that the man who just named a doctrine that espouses his own political savvy is running an operation that appears to be intent on somehow dragging the reputation of every single other alliance slightly lower than Sparta's. But you're right, "do something about it" is the perfect response to the fact you're riding your ego train right off the rails. For someone who alleged to have a great reputation "heh come at me bro" isn't much of a reply, is it? [quote] Why did I ever do anything to help GATO? [/quote] You got soft. All joking aside though, I have (had) no particular issue with yourself, I recognise that you once gave us a real hand, so thanks. But this is getting absurd. Edited February 14, 2012 by Laslo Kenez Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blacky Posted February 14, 2012 Report Share Posted February 14, 2012 (edited) [quote name='Roquentin' timestamp='1329225050' post='2920212'] They might think I think I'm inherently better. That was the point of it. I don't. If I assert a fundamental equality, how can I think I'm better? Seriously. I already outlined my actual feelings on TOP before. If TOP hadn't treatied MK, I'd love them a lot more. One of my biggest regrets is ever helping MK with that. I wish I hadn't. I remember telling MK to stop trolling TOP in the midst of the TPF war since it was really agitating them. $%&@ off and $%&@ MK. Go back to 2008 where you belong, Blacky. That was your hey-day. Here you're just a worthless MK drone. [/quote] The two aren't mutually exclusive. Believing you are inherently better than others doesn't mean you can't assert fundamental equality. Also, you reinforce that point in the second part of your post. As far as TOP is concerned I think we've all seen the various sets of logs at this point. In keeping with [i]IV. Truthfulness[/i] denying that you spurred on a fear campaign in regards to TOP is deceitful. Also, your attempt to marginalize me is hilarious. Considering that has historically been the criticism my opposition has had towards me. But since we're on the topic of [i]hey-days[/i]. Have you looked in the mirror lately? Edited February 14, 2012 by Blacky Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monster Posted February 14, 2012 Author Report Share Posted February 14, 2012 It is, because people keep attacking Sparta. I'm not really afraid of any of you. GATO is unpopular in Sparta. I keep saying I don't mean much as an individual and you were comfortable with Ardus parading around. Why didn't you !@#$ on him? I'm tired of your selective bs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rush Sykes Posted February 14, 2012 Report Share Posted February 14, 2012 [quote name='Roquentin' timestamp='1329225398' post='2920218'] Why did I ever do anything to help GATO? [/quote] Because they are the WAE, and your new Roq, who believed in helping homeless people, rescuing wayward kitties up trees, and helping CN alliances that were less fortunate than yourself, was just beginning to scratch the surface. GATO owes you so much. A pity they dont recognize it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monster Posted February 14, 2012 Author Report Share Posted February 14, 2012 (edited) [quote name='Rush Sykes' timestamp='1329226049' post='2920228'] Because they are the WAE, and your new Roq, who believed in helping homeless people, rescuing wayward kitties up trees, and helping CN alliances that were less fortunate than yourself, was just beginning to scratch the surface. GATO owes you so much. A pity they dont recognize it. [/quote] I actually helped GATO in a material fashion several times. If you want to doubt my RL activities, which I really didn't want to get into and hadn't talked about until I was told I was spending too much time on CN, $%&@ off. The bottom line is "MK is cool and Roq sucks" "Ardus rules, 1337 guy rules, Roq sucks" Edited February 14, 2012 by Roquentin Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stewie Posted February 14, 2012 Report Share Posted February 14, 2012 (edited) [quote name='D34th' timestamp='1329225876' post='2920222'] The funny thing is that your alliance suffers from the same disease. [/quote] We're just all hopped up on mountain dew!! [quote name='Roquentin' timestamp='1329226125' post='2920229']The bottom line is "MK is cool and Roq sucks" "Ardus rules, 1337 guy rules, Roq sucks" [/quote] Nah, the bottom line is "Everything Sucks" - sorry, been listening to too much Reel Big Fish Edited February 14, 2012 by Stewie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rush Sykes Posted February 14, 2012 Report Share Posted February 14, 2012 [quote name='Roquentin' timestamp='1329226125' post='2920229'] I actually helped GATO in a material fashion several times. If you want to doubt my RL activities, which I really didn't want to get into and hadn't talked about until I was told I was spending too much time on CN, $%&@ off. [/quote] I dont. I simply point out people who help others, do so selflessly, and shouldnt need to point out that they help others. They should do it just because. You seem to have to, whether its in CN, or in RL, trumpet your own "giving" nature. As if it somehow augments the in-game personae that you are trying to create. That you were helping homeless people(if you were), is commendable, that you would sully that good deed by using it in your over-inflated ego-driven quest for CN vanity, is petty. Much like you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monster Posted February 14, 2012 Author Report Share Posted February 14, 2012 Yeah, that's fun. You can really feel the effects if you don't actually have ADHD. If you do, caffeine does more of a calming effect. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ardus Posted February 14, 2012 Report Share Posted February 14, 2012 [quote name='Roquentin' timestamp='1329226042' post='2920227'] It is, because people keep attacking Sparta. I'm not really afraid of any of you. GATO is unpopular in Sparta. I keep saying I don't mean much as an individual and you were comfortable with Ardus parading around. Why didn't you !@#$ on him? I'm tired of your selective bs. [/quote] They do. In private. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geerland Posted February 14, 2012 Report Share Posted February 14, 2012 Roq I know you like the sound of your own voice, but quite a lot of people don't. shhhhhh. It's quiet time now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monster Posted February 14, 2012 Author Report Share Posted February 14, 2012 (edited) [quote name='Geerland' timestamp='1329226395' post='2920235'] Roq I know you like the sound of your own voice, but quite a lot of people don't. shhhhhh. It's quiet time now. [/quote] Wow, since I like ODN, I'm not going to tear into you, but stop. The condescending tone really pisses me off. Who do you think you are? Man, if only I had known ODN would start turning on me when I single-handedly pushed through the ODN treaty despite the Senate issue. Edited February 14, 2012 by Roquentin Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geerland Posted February 14, 2012 Report Share Posted February 14, 2012 [quote name='Roquentin' timestamp='1329226469' post='2920237'] Wow, since I like ODN, I'm not going to tear into you, but stop. The condescending tone really pisses me off. Who do you think you are? [/quote] Condescending tone? I got my lessons in it from post #1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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