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Ad Hominem


ktarthan

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I'm a busy man, so this will be a short one. Comment if you require elaboration.

An argumentum ad hominem, to borrow from wikipedia, "is an attempt to negate the truth of a claim by pointing out a negative characteristic or belief of the person supporting it."

The specific data point people need to take from this is that an insult is not by default an ad hominem.

Also something I want to try to mention every time I bring up fallacies: if an argument contains a fallacy, it is not by default wrong.

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The insult is used as part of the reasoning indirectly in two instances and directly back-relating on the last. You have ignored this part a few times.

Please, as I've asked, demonstrate the reasoning. What are the steps he used to have an insult reinforce the point that refutes what you said?

Sort of like how he would use those if he knew his statement to be false to reinforce his point?

No, not like that at all. Demonstrate the reasoning he used to reinforce the point that refutes what you said. "To reinforce his point" is the why. I'm asking for the how.

It is when you are using it as the argument as to whether an additional post is an ad hominem argument or not and not addressing it, but the individual instead.

Potato has in this very thread said that his point was "You don't know what ad hominem means." "You used it incorrectly" is in support of his point, not the point itself.

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It's pretty easy.

Myth is a raging idiot and everything he says is retarded = ad hominem

Myth, what you just said is retarded = not ad hominem

Myth, you are retarded = not ad hominem

Actually, none of those are completely ad hominem. The first one is just abuse. The second one might be ad hominem, but it lacks the context it'd be used in. The third is, again, just abuse.

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