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Honestly, i can't lie and say that i didn't enjoy the first one... but only the first one. Now it just seems that you consider any post that insults/goes against GOONs a terrible post and decide to attempt to mock it via youtube using your own terrible voice to butcher most of the words. Just please stop, it got old fast, and now its just a way to mock people that go against GOONs by "reading" their posts (don't really understand how repeating what they said in a retarded voice "mocks" them)

Cheers, GDI Crossfire

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Honestly, i can't lie and say that i didn't enjoy the first one... but only the first one. Now it just seems that you consider any post that insults/goes against GOONs a terrible post and decide to attempt to mock it via youtube using your own terrible voice to butcher most of the words. Just please stop, it got old fast, and now its just a way to mock people that go against GOONs by "reading" their posts (don't really understand how repeating what they said in a retarded voice "mocks" them)Cheers, GDI Crossfire

Kind of like how it's gotten old that you try to mock GOONS by leaving the S at the end uncapitalized?

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Its memoryproblems, actually. Its not capitalized, and I'm sure that you GOONs will remember that for next time.

At any rate, I'm flattered, but once again, such a lovely voice you have, so artfully spoken. To be honest, I actually enjoyed this episode. Probably the best voice performance so far (not being sarcastic, you are getting better.), and if this is the coping mechanism that you've opted to use to deal with my "!@#$posting", so be it.

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Honestly, i can't lie and say that i didn't enjoy the first one... but only the first one. Now it just seems that you consider any post that insults/goes against GOONs a terrible post and decide to attempt to mock it via youtube using your own terrible voice to butcher most of the words. Just please stop, it got old fast, and now its just a way to mock people that go against GOONs by "reading" their posts (don't really understand how repeating what they said in a retarded voice "mocks" them)Cheers, GDI Crossfire
Kind of like how it's gotten old that you try to mock GOONS by leaving the S at the end uncapitalized?

as you can see GOONs clearly tried to mock memoryproblems by capitalizing his name, and as i have his back, i kindly returned the mockery to GOONs by not capitalizing the s in GOONs

-GDI

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Honestly, i can't lie and say that i didn't enjoy the first one... but only the first one. Now it just seems that you consider any post that insults/goes against GOONs a terrible post and decide to attempt to mock it via youtube using your own terrible voice to butcher most of the words. Just please stop, it got old fast, and now its just a way to mock people that go against GOONs by "reading" their posts (don't really understand how repeating what they said in a retarded voice "mocks" them)Cheers, GDI Crossfire
Kind of like how it's gotten old that you try to mock GOONS by leaving the S at the end uncapitalized?
as you can see GOONs clearly tried to mock memoryproblems by capitalizing his name, and as i have his back, i kindly returned the mockery to GOONs by not capitalizing the s in GOONs -GDI

Whats your excuse for it's usage prior to that?

Also i do not think he wrote Memoryproblems as a mockery.

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Now it just seems that you consider any post that insults/goes against GOONs a terrible post and decide to attempt to mock it via youtube using your own terrible voice to butcher most of the words.

...really?

So let me get this straight. You read this post and thought it was a well-thought-out response that only sounds stupid when I do a funny voice?

Obviously not "any post" that insults GOONS goes into one of my episodes. I have to find one that's particularly funny.

I'd like to say I'm equal opportunity and will make fun of any stupid post, even if it's on my own side or has nothing to do with GOONS, but that's hard to back up.

The fact is that I don't read much of the OWF except GOONS threads so that and suggestions I get sent in are where I get my material. If you find something really ridiculous and funny that someone on my side said, send it along and I'll be happy to mock it. I just don't see a whole lot of them.

Seeing as you find my voice horrible and my modus operandi stupid, you don't sound like a fan, so I won't hold my breath waiting for your suggestions.

P.S. I capitalized "memoryproblems" because it's grammatically correct to begin a sentence with a capital letter. I guess I'm picky that way. I think it's pretty hilarious that you see this as an attempt to insult him.

"Haha, I capitalized your name! So there!"

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Honestly, i can't lie and say that i didn't enjoy the first one... but only the first one. Now it just seems that you consider any post that insults/goes against GOONs a terrible post and decide to attempt to mock it via youtube using your own terrible voice to butcher most of the words. Just please stop, it got old fast, and now its just a way to mock people that go against GOONs by "reading" their posts (don't really understand how repeating what they said in a retarded voice "mocks" them)Cheers, GDI Crossfire
Kind of like how it's gotten old that you try to mock GOONS by leaving the S at the end uncapitalized?
as you can see GOONs clearly tried to mock memoryproblems by capitalizing his name, and as i have his back, i kindly returned the mockery to GOONs by not capitalizing the s in GOONs -GDI

Oh god, this is such a dumb response. In the english language you automatically capitalize the first letter of proper nouns, like names, and the first letter of the first word in a sentence. That was a product of good grammar, not mockery. In an acronym like GOONS, you capitalize all the letter because each one stands for an important word in the acronym. I can't believe you actually just used that as an argument. A conscious effort is being made here to mock and attempt to anger members of GOONS.

As you said,

Just please stop, it got old fast, and now its just a way to mock people

You got to pick one or the other, either quit the misspelling or quit your !@#$%*ing and moaning when they do things like this.

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I'd like to say I'm equal opportunity and will make fun of any stupid post, even if it's on my own side or has nothing to do with GOONS, but that's hard to back up.

The fact is that I don't read much of the OWF except GOONS threads so that and suggestions I get sent in are where I get my material. If you find something really ridiculous and funny that someone on my side said, send it along and I'll be happy to mock it. I just don't see a whole lot of them.

That is an interesting thing for you to say.

Without a doubt, there are those out there in the real world who are die-hard conservatives and believe everything that Fox News says and find no truth in anything reported with liberal sympathies. They don't understand why petitions are delivered to the headquarters of Fox News and advertisers pull their campaigns from the network each and every week.

Their bias blinds them, just as your bias blinds you.

Nobody is truly objective, nobody is solid enough in the middle to be an impartial judge of anything, much less Glenn Beck and Sean Hannity close enough to the middle to tell us what the middle is, or for you or your comrades to tell us where those who oppose GOONS may have a point. That is fine, I'm no less biased then you, and so its understandable why I find the postings of GOONS to be undeniably some of the stupidest stuff I have ever read, perhaps with the same level of scorn as with you read the posts of myself and other prominent voices of those who you might consider to be anti-GOONS.

Its not as if I've only been recently criticizing GOONS. I've always thought that you were terrible, and over time, GOONS members have, in a number of ways, told me that I was wrong, that I was stupid, and consequently attacked my character.

Perhaps I'm blind, but amidst these responses, I have yet to see anywhere where it has been pointed out why I was wrong, or why I was stupid. You seem to believe that to be against GOONS is to be wrong by definition.

It seems to be GOONS OWF strategy is to attack the character rather then debate the argument. I suppose that is your coping mechanism to deal with people having a less then favorable view of you, but it doesn't do much to change anybodies mind about you. At the end of the day, nothing is true simply because you say it is true, you really need to substantiate your arguments, which GOONS members have a nasty habit of neglecting to do.

Its cool that you think that I'm wrong, that you think I'm idiot, as perhaps I am sometimes, but it'd mean a whole lot more if you were to back up your argument rather then spouting the same old tired empty rhetoric.

But quite frankly, I'm flattered. I was afraid that nobody paid attention to anything I said.

Quite frankly, that would have hurt a great deal more.

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You know, I get the impression from your post that you legitimately are trying to start an intelligent discussion so I'll try to speak my mind honestly.

Perhaps I'm blind, but amidst these responses, I have yet to see anywhere where it has been pointed out why I was wrong, or why I was stupid. You seem to believe that to be against GOONS is to be wrong by definition.It seems to be GOONS OWF strategy is to attack the character rather then debate the argument. I suppose that is your coping mechanism to deal with people having a less then favorable view of you, but it doesn't do much to change anybodies mind about you.

Whether or not it's you specifically, I have dealt with a lot of anti-GOONS people like you who will argue in circles and will be totally unable to admit to the fact that they're using circular logic or fallacies to make their point and for the sake of sanity, it's usually more fun, interesting, and productive to just laugh at them and move on. The reason why I attack someone's character is because attacking their argument is like headbutting a brick wall. They're unable and very much unwilling to admit they've made a single mistake, so why bother trying?

So yes, it is very much my "coping mechanism" because it's really hard to wrap my mind around the all-out insanity that comes from certain members of the OWF.

But quite frankly, I'm flattered. I was afraid that nobody paid attention to anything I said. Quite frankly, that would have hurt a great deal more.

I wouldn't be flattered. I wouldn't have responded to your comment at all if it hadn't been brought to my attention specifically as material for my next episode. The fact that I chose to make fun of you rather than to respond with an actual argument is because I didn't think it was worth bothering with.

However, since you took the effort to start this discussion, I've decided I will bother. So here are the MANY things wrong with what you said:

you seem to be under the impression that GOONS did win that war, when in reality, you simply didn't lose, but certianly not on the merits of the performance of your own alliance.

I will give you this much: GOONS did not "win the war". We were on the winning side and we did it cooperatively with MK and Umbrella. We wouldn't have won this on our own. That does not mean we did poorly or that we were dead weight. We fought twelve alliances simultaneously and despite this we managed to come through all right. I attribute this partially to the skill and coordination of GOONS members, but more so to extreme strategic ineptitude on our enemies' parts. I think if more of our enemies were more competent, we would have suffered a lot worse. I won't go into details because I'm not in the practice of helping my enemies to improve. It's better and more amusing to see them continue to fight terribly.

I should note that in fairness, some of our enemies such as NSO did a pretty good job.

Losing 66% of your NS and having almost 1/2 of those who were GOONS members at the start of the war either delete or leave are obviously a sign of a crushing military victory where you dominated your opposition.

That 66% NS sounds worse than it really is. What was destroyed was the bottom tier that is the easiest by far to rebuild. You should expect to see a large chunk of that rebuilt very soon.

As for the people who deleted or left, that's a ridiculous statement and I found it particularly ludicrous to make. GOONS is made up of many new players and we have a pretty high turnover rate. The amount of people who left during war is about par for the course with or without war. In fact, the promise of war brought a huge increase in new recruits. To say that this war caused people to delete or leave in vast numbers is, if anything, the opposite of the truth. We shot way up in number. Now that the war's over, we'll probably see a lot of the newbies get bored and leave. I'm honestly shocked that I even have to explain this.

(A bunch of grumbling at nippy's post)

I'm not going to speak in defence of Nippy. He was nominated for WPE and now and then he'll say something crazy, but I have to at least thank him for provoking the insanity that you produced.

At the same time, so that we're on the same page, why don't you what has GOONS accomplished, other then screwing up a ton of raids, being unable to handle raiders without sanctions (not saying its wrong to sanction them, just saying you don't seem to be able to handle it otherwise), and acting as meatshields to MK and Umbrella.

Let's ignore the grammatical butchering of the first sentence. This is such an incredibly thick-headed response I can't even believe you would defend it. This is the sort of post you make where later on you go back and say "Wow, yeah, I don't know what I was going on about."

This was either entirely an attempt at provoking an angry response, or a total refusal to live in reality.

1. OH LOL GOONS SCREWS UP A LOT OF RAIDS.

This was thoroughly debunked when Schattenmann tried to post his shocking expose on GOONS raids and I'm surprised people are still arguing it. Yes, there were incidents. We have a large number of low-tier newbies and now and then some of them will screw up. This was not out-of-control. Over time, this amount has been hugely reduced and those incidents that remained were almost universally dealt with to the satisfaction of all involved.

2. OH YOU POOR GOONS CAN'T HANDLE A FEW ROGUES.

What I find particularly crazy about your post here is that you actually acknowledge we're in the right to sanction rogues but still make a jab that we only do it because we have to. This is kind of contradictory. We deal with rogues quite a lot, so we've gotten pretty good at handling it. We sanction them so we can deal with them as efficiently as possible. Why would you even think we would sanction out of fear? We just fought twelve alliances at once without flinching, so why would a rogue cause us to wet our pants?

3. YOU GUYS ARE NOTHING BUT MEATSHIELDS TO MK AND UMBRELLA.

I will partially agree that we acted as meatshields. Honestly in this instance I feel that was the best strategy. It's not to say we were incapable of fighting or that we contributed nothing else to warfare. We've dealt a huge amount of damage to our opponents. But we could argue back and forth about this one issue forever. I can at least understand your reasoning for this one as opposed to the other two, which are so out there I have to squint.

he 1st GOONS did something of value, the present GOONS is nothing more then a trainwreck of ineptitude and futility that adds little to the community then entertainment.

Do I even need to bother? I don't even know how someone can say we're a trainwreck of ineptitude after seeing how our opponents performed in this war. I can't even count the number of hilarious rookie mistakes I saw our opponents use, let alone the overall strategies that alliances as a whole resorted to. A new recruit, having been in this game for two weeks could spot the major flaws here.

I can't say I expect much more from AoO, as they've chosen a protector who won't be able to tender any assistance to them with problems above 15k NS.

Oh. Yeah. Because AoO are definitely going to run into trouble from nations with 15k NS. I'm not sure if anyone explained this to you, but there's an NS range and you can't declare war on someone significantly lower than you in NS. What problems are AoO going to have over 15k NS when they have an overall membership of fifteen, and only two of those nations are in that range?

GOONS currently has 18 members over 15k NS, so even if some magical phantom shows up and despite being old enough to have a very large nation, still decides "Hey, it would be funny to push around a protected AA" we actually have options. What point were you going for with this remark?

But I guess if GOONS shares their building guides with AoO, they'll never need to worry about having 15k NS+ nations.

Hurr hurr. Boy, you've got our number. I'm going to go out on a limb and say that you haven't read our building guides. Compared to war, it's much more subtle and harder to critique someone's building so I'm really wondering what you're basing this remark on. We fought a lot of people in this last war and we're able to see all the strategic failings firsthand. Have you been carefully studying every single GOONS nation to see how we're maximizing our nation building? That's the only way I can see for you to be able to scoff at it. Or are you just looking at our graph and noticing that our overall strength is not increasing that much and figure it's because of lousy building practices? If so, has it occurred to you that very little nation growth happens when you're in and out of war as often as we are, and have as high a turnover rate as we do?

Herein lies the hypocrisy of your statement:

It seems to be GOONS OWF strategy is to attack the character rather then debate the argument.

This would have more weight if your post wasn't made up of immature jabs. I will at least admit that I prefer to attack character than debate. It's more fun and usually yields more results.

But you can't honestly make remarks like "GOONS is good for nothing except screwing up raids" and then pretend you're above making petty slights against character.

In conclusion, you smell.

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I wouldn't be flattered. I wouldn't have responded to your comment at all if it hadn't been brought to my attention specifically as material for my next episode. The fact that I chose to make fun of you rather than to respond with an actual argument is because I didn't think it was worth bothering with.

However, since you took the effort to start this discussion, I've decided I will bother. So here are the MANY things wrong with what you said:

There are those who say it is better to be loathed then ignored. I've never particularly taken that mindset, but I can see why some do.

I'm quite pleased that you've taken the time to respond in depth to my message, and while I disagree with some many of the statements you've made to refute my claims, I suppose that I can see why you would come to the conclusions that you have,.

That 66% NS sounds worse than it really is. What was destroyed was the bottom tier that is the easiest by far to rebuild. You should expect to see a large chunk of that rebuilt very soon.

As for the people who deleted or left, that's a ridiculous statement and I found it particularly ludicrous to make. GOONS is made up of many new players and we have a pretty high turnover rate. The amount of people who left during war is about par for the course with or without war. In fact, the promise of war brought a huge increase in new recruits. To say that this war caused people to delete or leave in vast numbers is, if anything, the opposite of the truth. We shot way up in number. Now that the war's over, we'll probably see a lot of the newbies get bored and leave. I'm honestly shocked that I even have to explain this.

I hate to get too serious about things, but I think I've already toppled past that line. As with any discussion, there are topics of discussion that deal with statistics and there are topics of discussion that deal with subjectivity.

The facts I've given were statistically correct, but we obviously differ on how relevent they are. But speaking of the rate of members who leave, you can say its normal, and that may be the way that GOONS is geared to operate, but its hard to say with that style that you move forwards rather then staying still. I suppose you must get people through the door to filter out those who are worthy/long-term contributors, but unfortunately, it doesn't seem as if many are being caught in that filter.

This would have more weight if your post wasn't made up of immature jabs. I will at least admit that I prefer to attack character than debate. It's more fun and usually yields more results.

But you can't honestly make remarks like "GOONS is good for nothing except screwing up raids" and then pretend you're above making petty slights against character.

In conclusion, you smell.

A variety of tactics means that something might stick.

But really, while I may make "jabs", I always try to substantiate them with some statistics and sometimes even a little logic (even if you don't agree with the logic I use, but that is a matter of subjectivity, you may disagree with it, but I am sure there are those who would agree with it.) rather then saying "Hurf Durf you dumb."

Now that I think about it, thats not such a bad idea. It'd be alot easier to say "Hurf Durf you dumb".

Also, sorry about the smell, I will try to shower and/or do laundry more frequently in the future for your benefit.

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I came into this thread expecting a funny video and some compliments. What I got was a funny video and a bunch of posts of MP !@#$%*ing.

You need to take at least one of these posts and make a new video of it. Make it a serial MP special.

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Honestly, i can't lie and say that i didn't enjoy the first one... but only the first one. Now it just seems that you consider any post that insults/goes against GOONs a terrible post and decide to attempt to mock it via youtube using your own terrible voice to butcher most of the words. Just please stop, it got old fast, and now its just a way to mock people that go against GOONs by "reading" their posts (don't really understand how repeating what they said in a retarded voice "mocks" them)Cheers, GDI Crossfire
Kind of like how it's gotten old that you try to mock GOONS by leaving the S at the end uncapitalized?
as you can see GOONs clearly tried to mock memoryproblems by capitalizing his name, and as i have his back, i kindly returned the mockery to GOONs by not capitalizing the s in GOONs -GDI
Oh god, this is such a dumb response. In the english language you automatically capitalize the first letter of proper nouns, like names, and the first letter of the first word in a sentence. That was a product of good grammar, not mockery. In an acronym like GOONS, you capitalize all the letter because each one stands for an important word in the acronym. I can't believe you actually just used that as an argument. A conscious effort is being made here to mock and attempt to anger members of GOONS. As you said,
Just please stop, it got old fast, and now its just a way to mock people
You got to pick one or the other, either quit the misspelling or quit your !@#$%*ing and moaning when they do things like this.

I ind it humorous how you guys actually thought I was being serious when I accused GOONs of mocking mp by capitalizing. AS for the way I say GOONs, I simply don't capitalize the s in it, out of not having any respect for you. Its that simple, and you can't really do anything about it. Can you? As for the creator of this blog, your argument of going into only GOON based threads is not completely correct. The previous episode were you first quoted mp took place in a NPO thread to all of her allies, not really related to GOONs at all in any sense. And honestly, I would like you to explain what about his post was so "stupid". He was thanking NPO for our alliance, and stating that the recognition is not why we fight side-by-side with them. So please, by all means elaborate and enlighten me

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You guys are getting better at this lol. Who is the reader? Get Lamuella to do some.

Heh, it's the same reader. This is my personal series. It isn't really a group effort. Other goons sometimes suggest ones, though.

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