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I have compiled nation strength stats for NPO front using UE's stat thread and lately the charts ingame since he stopped updating a few weeks ago. The graph is publicly visible here:

https://spreadsheets.google.com/ccc?key=0AprwA4GlvgCxdDdfRFhKUzU4RjFTZDZLLXhzSnpmZEE&hl=en&authkey=COma5s4F

A couple of notes-

1. The NS stats are 1/10000 scale.

2. I stopped tracking GOONS on the 26th of January when our allies hit.

3. Most of the fighting fell out of Umbrella's range after the first round of wars so I stopped tracking them then.

4. Nordreich entered on March 4th obviously.

5. A couple of upper level Legion nations engaged MK around March 20th, so I've begun tracking them.

6. I'll be trying to add new stuff and updating the rest of the strength stats on weekends. This is going to be NPO centric, so no I won't be tracking GOONS since our allies did a lot of the fighting there.

Hope you enjoy. Try to keep the !@#$%*ing and revisionism in the designated OWF threads.

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Wait, what? This is supposed to stop the 'revisionism' and yet you didn't track GOONS, Umbrella, Legion or any of the other alliances on that front?

I haven't really been paying much attention, so I don't really know what revisionism you're talking about, but on the face of it this doesn't exactly look like a way to prove, well, anything.

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Wait, what? This is supposed to stop the 'revisionism' and yet you didn't track GOONS, Umbrella, Legion or any of the other alliances on that front?

I haven't really been paying much attention, so I don't really know what revisionism you're talking about, but on the face of it this doesn't exactly look like a way to prove, well, anything.

Please stop trying to start an argument because of my AA. I explained exactly why I organized things this way. The graph is centered on alliances engaged with NPO most directly. The revisionism and !@#$%*ing I'm referring to is over topics not relating to these stats. If I tracked GOONS, I would have to track all the alliances heavily engaged with them. If I added Umbrella, I would have to add Molon Labe. If I added NADC, I would have to add FOK and VE, etc. It's not designed to "prove" anything. It just means less work for me. If you want to track all of them, feel free.

If I wanted to engage in real revisionism, I would have just put GOONS and Umbrella on there and left the alliances attacking them off.

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Wait, what? This is supposed to stop the 'revisionism' and yet you didn't track GOONS, Umbrella, Legion or any of the other alliances on that front?

I haven't really been paying much attention, so I don't really know what revisionism you're talking about, but on the face of it this doesn't exactly look like a way to prove, well, anything.

GOONS because the are being swarmed with other alliances, Umbrella because they are hardly fighting, and Legion because this is for NPO specifically. You don't have to agree with it, but they were justified.

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GOONS because the are being swarmed with other alliances, Umbrella because they are hardly fighting, and Legion because this is for NPO specifically. You don't have to agree with it, but they were justified.

And Legion is actually added on there later, when they started fighting MK around mid March.

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GOONS because the are being swarmed with other alliances

*checks defensive war count of GOONS*

*a tumbleweed blows by*

Nope, not seeing it. Keep telling yourself that though.

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*checks defensive war count of GOONS*

*a tumbleweed blows by*

Nope, not seeing it. Keep telling yourself that though.

You get defensive fast. I will rephrase that. At one point they were being attacked/attacking many other alliance who are not tracked on the graph, and I believe this was the reason for not including them. I didn't mean to disparage the GOONS in any way, but nor will I "keep telling myself" anything.

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No actually we don't, we don't get many defensive wars at all. Regardless, the excuse for omitting us from these statistics is lame.

I meant verbally. Anyway, what does it matter? They're his stats, he can put whoever he wants in them.

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Please stop trying to start an argument because of my AA. I explained exactly why I organized things this way. The graph is centered on alliances engaged with NPO most directly. The revisionism and !@#$%*ing I'm referring to is over topics not relating to these stats. If I tracked GOONS, I would have to track all the alliances heavily engaged with them. If I added Umbrella, I would have to add Molon Labe. If I added NADC, I would have to add FOK and VE, etc. It's not designed to "prove" anything. It just means less work for me. If you want to track all of them, feel free.

If I wanted to engage in real revisionism, I would have just put GOONS and Umbrella on there and left the alliances attacking them off.

An argument because of your AA? I didn't even know you were in the NPO until I read this post. My point is that your statistics are flawed and don't show what you seem to be wanted them to show.

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An argument because of your AA? I didn't even know you were in the NPO until I read this post. My point is that your statistics are flawed and don't show what you seem to be wanted them to show.

He said that he «compiled nation strength stats for NPO front». He explained why he omitted GOONS, Legion and Umbrella (or better: why he included them only in part).

You can of course disagree that the GOONS fought a significant part of their wars against other people, and/or that most of the war-mode NPO quickly fell off most of Umbrellians' ranges, and/or that Legion got "really" involved only after March 20th. You can explain why the reasons he put forth for his choices are invalid and you can state your point of view.

If you don't explain your point(s), however, it's impossible to know what you're talking of and why his work would be flawed, no matter how loudly you cry that it is.

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Thanks for compiling this. MK has been swarmed as well so you can't really attribute it all to NPO. A lot of our NS loss has been from deletions not related to the war, likely true for others as well. GOONS has grown from recruitement. It's a difficult thing to directly measure damage given when so many alliances are involved on each side and there are multiple factors involved.

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