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Karma War: False Hope

Ryan Greenberg

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I recently made a blog about the Post-Karma world(something I call the Moralist Era considering the term "Moralist" was at its peak), so I have now decided to write a blog on Karma itself, and how I feel about it looking back on it. Again, sorry for !@#$%* grammer and please deal with my opinion. I'll deal with yours. I'm no Doitzel and I am not a great writer, so please bare with me here.

Karma War: False Hope

A Blog by Reverend Ryan

In about one month, the two year anniversary of the Karma War will dawn upon us. Karma. Quite possibly the most important war this game has ever seen. A war that saw Pacifica's Hegemony fall. A war that ended EZI and PZI once and for. A war that was finally going to give payback to NPO. A war, to many nobodys like me, was supposed to end the disgrace of harsh terms and attempts of forced disbandments(I'm looking at you Xiph). Most nobodys thought the war would finally end the Hegemonic !@#$ NPO forced upon us in 2008. To quote the New Radicals, "We've got the dreamers disease". What must I say? We were too idealistic I guess. We were wrong....

I am a nobody in this game. Always have been. Hell, one time I threatened GDI by threatening Continuum intervention. This was before I actually understood the politics of this game obviously(lol). I first started to understand the game's politics during one of it's more fun times. Those old enough all remember Vox Populi. The alliance that would spell the beginning of the end for the Pacifican Hegemony. The alliance that began a revolution that would continue and lead up into Karma. Vox Populi wanted retribution for all the crimes NPO made during it's time on top. Not only that, they wanted to end the harsh terms alliances received from NPO and their lackeys. 2008 will forever be tainted as the year with the worst reps in the game. GPA, NoV, GATO, noCB, Polaris. There are many more, but I'll keep it limited to the more famous wars of the era. When I read Schattenmann's This Week in Pacifica, I actually thought the upcoming revolt against NPO would finaly end the unjustices of weak CBs and harsh terms. I supported Vox Populi's message. Many who would lead the Karma coalition hailed and supported Vox's message too.

I'll just get to the jist of it. Though us nobodys hate to admit it, Karma was never a war to end the injustices of NPO. It was a war to end the power of NPO. It was a war to win grudges that were building since the old days of the Great Wars. NPO is insane if it didn't think all of the grudges they created wouldn't come back to haunt them. On April 21 2009, NPO attacked OV and Karma was formed. Archon, the mouthpiece of Karma, gave CN hope that a new day was coming. A day without injustice and hegemonic evil. A "brave new world".

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Citizens of Planet Bob,

I come before you today not as Archon, King of the Mushroom Kingdom, but rather as the mouthpiece of something far greater. No doubt all of you are aware that war has broken out today. It is a conflict that will most undoubtedly swell to a magnitude the likes of which this planet has never before experienced, and in the aftermath of this great calamity nothing will be the same. Many of you cheered for this war, wanted it to come, and are right now happier than ever before. In due time, you will regret this. All of us will regret this war, whether we wanted it or not. It will be brutal, and it will be bloody. Bonds will be shattered with such righteous wrath that they will never ever be repaired. What is the most terrible fact of all is that history will take note that this war needn't have occurred at all.

I come before you today as an aggrieved citizen. Earlier this evening, the latest (and what turned out to be the last) round of peace talks between Ordo Verde and the aggrieved parties were set to begin. From the onset, things were awry, as The Phoenix Federation's issues had seemingly evaporated. Instead, Ordo Verde was faced by the NPO. However, Ordo Verde did not stand alone. Allies of OV, and allies of those allies, stood in solidarity behind them. These wise and supporting alliances decreed that Ordo Verde need not face this calamity alone, and they clamoured for a voice to represent their indignation. I was chosen to be that voice, and I walked with Ordo Verde into that last meeting room.

We once again had the honor of the moderation of The Order of the Paradox, and while Emperor TrotskysRevenge was combative and belligerent from the onset we still pressed on. I will not bore you with the details of these discussions - they are not for this missive. They will be argued to death, as will the validity of this war, and I will not presume to press my own opinions concerning that upon you. I will tell you that Crymson of TOP and myself worked furiously to come to compromises, despite communications difficulties with the Emperor, and that we had drawn very close. It was then, and only then, that a horror set in.

In the midst of negotiations, the New Pacific Order and The Order of Righteous Nations declared war on Ordo Verde.

In the midst of earnest efforts to prevent a war, efforts that were so close to becoming successful, the NPO and TORN took a path that speaks to arrogance and blind wrath. It is clear they did not want peace, and we will live forever with the consequences. On behalf of those I represent, these allies of Ordo Verde, I register my disgust with the New Pacific Order and The Order of Righteous Nations. You believe you can have your way without consequences in this world. That is not the case.

We are Karma incarnate, and we stand in solidarity here today to decree that this action shall not stand. You will pay for what you have done.

On behalf of Karma,

Archon

Edit: It would appear there is some mild confusion. This is not a declaration of war, and this has nothing to do with Mushroom Kingdom as a single entity. This is a statement of support from Karma.

The Karma War had begun. We remember when Karma's leaders would say some generic one-liner such as: "Your time of evil is over. A new age is here!". We remember when all of MK was beloved and how everyone thought the unjustices that NPO made would finally end. In the end, the war was a success and victory for Karma. At last, this new mysterious "brave new world" had come. I won't discuss the terms given to Echelon in detail, but I'll just say they were unfair and unjust. Banning a member from government and harsh terms for such a small alliances wasn't necessarry at all. Now where was I---oh right! A new era had come. The "war of hope and change" had finally ended. Blah....Blah...Blah. Yeah---okay. Would the "brave new world" bring in significant change in how reps would be handled? No. Would it bring in significant change in power? Yes. The Coke(Hegemony)-Pepsi(Karma) thing is sort of ironic. They somewhat taste the same, but Pepsi(Karma) tastes a tad bit sweeter. Pretty funny if you ask me.

Now we get to the current war. Two wars actually. One with many of the victors demanding and receiving reps(CSN/MN) and another with a war based on fear and paranoia, with no legit reasoning for war. The war declared on NPO by Doomhouse was cowardly. Period. It was unjust and came at the perfect time, during the VE-Polar War. A war based on why NPO shouldn't be even allowed to have the slightest of chances to gain some sort of power. I ask Doomhouse, if you are so afraid of NPO holding power, why give them peace at all? I supose it has to do with that phobia you have when people compare you to NPO. Meh. Karma was supposed to give NPO a second chance. The political leaders behind the NPO War can go on about how "NPO was never forgiven. Karma never ended the retribution that NPO deserved". Tell me why Karma was fought then? Just to continuously hit NPO whenever you wanted? I don't care what the elite political leaders say, us nobodys wanted Karma to end this kind of !@#$. You took what Vox wanted to create and spat on it. You failed. The same alliances who jumped ship when enough was enough with NPO will jump ship with you next. What comes around......goes around. Watch out DH, Karma is heading for you next.

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Kzoppistan

Good piece.

I'd say that now you are beginning to learn the meaning behind the phrase 'perpetual revolution'.

Somethings never really change, the underdog gains popular support by cultivating the image of being the torch bearer for the disenfranchised masses, and then when the old power is unseated, they take the throne and begin their own reign. Some are harsher than others, but for the most part, the maneuvers necessary to stave off your rivals (which are usually your old allies) and retain your grip of power inherently corrupts any ideals the naive believers once had and shatters the illusion that the propagandists wove while plotting their rise to power.

Really, once you get into a position of power, your days are numbered. The common people will pull you down with the mistaken belief that anything will change for them, while in fact, it's only those closest to the top that will benefit and swiftly take their turn in the throne.

That some alliances are now performing the same actions that were perpetrated upon them is no surprise, as we all learn and mimic from those around us. Few people can actually step outside the cycle.

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NoFish

I don't know why you're looking at Xiph when you say that. GOD hasn't disbanded anyone post-Karma. While a few alliances do continue to use PZI I can't recall a case of it being applied across re-rolls since the fall of Q, either. When was the last time an alliance had its charter forcibly re-written? Or were forced to move colors?

Complain as you will about Doomhouse's current antics or the fact that people are taking reps at all, but you must admit that in a clear and objective way things have changed and terms have gotten lighter (I mean, look at NpO's terms, for instance).

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Ryan Greenberg

I don't know why you're looking at Xiph when you say that. GOD hasn't disbanded anyone post-Karma. While a few alliances do continue to use PZI I can't recall a case of it being applied across re-rolls since the fall of Q, either. When was the last time an alliance had its charter forcibly re-written? Or were forced to move colors?

Complain as you will about Doomhouse's current antics or the fact that people are taking reps at all, but you must admit that in a clear and objective way things have changed and terms have gotten lighter (I mean, look at NpO's terms, for instance).

Well....GOD has apparently attempted to disband alliances. I have never said they actually did it successfully. And IDC if NPO was worse than DH is in 2011. Just because your not worse than the last hegemony, doesn't mean you're good.

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Mogar

terms have gotten lighter (I mean, look at NpO's terms, for instance).

mind doing the math of what NPO had to pay for Karma reps compared to the reps they received from all those alliances mentioned in the OP?

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NoFish

Well....GOD has apparently attempted to disband alliances. I have never said they actually did it successfully. And IDC if NPO was worse than DH is in 2011. Just because your not worse than the last hegemony, doesn't mean you're good.

"Apparently"? Do you have any proof of this, or are you just taking the OWF rumor mill as fact? And like I said, say what you will about DH but there has been change. To say that things are the same as they were before is nonsense. I have also never claimed to be good. Nor have I claimed that DH is "good." They'd probably be offended if I did.

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Ryan Greenberg

"Apparently"? Do you have any proof of this, or are you just taking the OWF rumor mill as fact? And like I said, say what you will about DH but there has been change. To say that things are the same as they were before is nonsense. I have also never claimed to be good. Nor have I claimed that DH is "good." They'd probably be offended if I did.

1.) I never said there hasn't been change. There has. It just hasn't nearly been as good as anticipated by most during Karma. Not even close.

2.) I know for a fact that GOD held up the peace because of their ego and hatred for UPN. Do you think they just wanted to have a couple more jabs at UPN? Why postpone a peace that EVERYONE else wanted? It's almost impossible to disband, but I believe(you don't have to agree) GOD literally wanted UPN as irrelevant as possible.

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Monster

I'm not really sure anyone said NPO was going to get a second chance by default. People waited and they didn't seem to think NPO had changed when they came out of terms, hence people still wanting to roll them and not just DH/PB. I mean I'm pretty sure the RoK-NSO war had the component of getting to roll NPO again.

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Banksy

oh look, this thread again.

karma was about beating up the NPO. any new 'moral codes' were added by morons who took the spin at face value or revisionists.

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