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Two Wars??? 1/24/2010 (End of Day 8 and Day 1)

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Jharius II

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Well, this is very interesting. Doomhouse decides to attack NPO because NPO has not entered the main conflict. I know most people will translate this differently but I am going to split this into two different wars. Please tell me what you think about the situation and if you think these should be connected?

You spied... NO YOU Conflict (END OF DAY 8)

How is this connected... Conflict(END OF DAY 1)

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-----You spied... NO YOU Conflict-----

VE AND FRIENDS

VE = Viridian Entente

PC = Poison Clan

iFOK = iFOK

MN = Misfit Nations

FOK = FOK

SLCB = Seaworthy Liberian Cardboard Boxes

RnR = RnR

CMEA = Councils for Militaristic and Economic Assistance

GOD = Global Order of Darkness

Hyd = Hydra

Ath = Athens

Tet = Tetris

INT = The International

ODN = Orange Defense Network

Brig = The Brigade

GO = Guru Order

CRAP = Coalition of Royal Allied Powers

TTK = The Templar Knights

CSN = Commonwealth of Sovereign Nations

Leg = Legacy

Spar = Sparta

NEAT = Nations Empowered Against Totalitarianism

Hool = Hooligans

LOST = =LOST=

GRUE = Grand Revolution of Unearthly Evil

Brain = The Brain

Arg = Argent

LSF = Libertarian Socialist Federation

Umb = Umbrella

DICE = Deck of International Card Experts

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NpO AND FRIENDS

NpO = New Polar Order

tLW – The Lost World

UPN = United Purple Nations

FAR = Federation of Allied Republics

TIO = The Imperial Order

USN = United Sovereign Nation

IAA = Imperial Assault Alliance

TKTB = The Killer Turtle Brigade

RoK = Ragnarok

57th = 57th Overlanders

TCU = The Conservative Underground

UINE = Union of Integrated National Entities

STA = Siberian Tiger Alliance

GEN = Genesis

ARES = Ascended Republic of Elite States

LoSS = League of Small Superpowers

GATO = Gobal Alliance and Treaty Organization

DRAGON = Down Right Awesome Group of Nations

Meno = Menotah

EXO = Exodus

\m/ = \m/

MCXA = Multicolored Cross-X Alliance

THL = The Hanseatic League (Declares Peace)

GDA = Global Democratic Alliance

BTA = Blue Turtle Alliance

NV = Nueva Vida

KoH = Kingdom of Hyrule

CCC = Christian Coalition of Countries

TFD = The Foreign Division

TNG = The New Guy

NATIO = North Atlantic Treaty Organization

GLoF = Grand Lodge of Freemasons

Colo = Colossus

Quant = Quantum

WAPA = We Are Perth Army

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BOTH SIDES

RIA - Random Insanity Alliance

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-----How is this connected... Conflict-----

NPO and ...

NPO = New Pacific Order

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Doomhouse and friends

GOON = Goon Order of Oppression, Negligence and Sadism (GOONS)

Umb = Umbrella

MK = Mushroom Kindgdom

FAN = Federation of Armed Nations

\m/ = \m/

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No it's one war. The Doomhouse attack was an effect of the other war because NPO ordered their allies in TPF and Legion to not help their allies.

Also Umbrella is in war with STA and MK is in war with CCC. Calling this two different wars is really dumb.

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Yeah I would count them as 2 separate conflicts. I believe \m/ was the only alliance connected to VE-NpO and they just dropped out.

Well MK also put out a DoW on CCC and Umbrella on STA so they are connected also. I guess you could look at this both ways. Due to the fact the "You spied... NO YOU Conflict" is getting crazy I am going to break it into two wars to make it easier on me :war:.

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No it's one war. The Doomhouse attack was an effect of the other war because NPO ordered their allies in TPF and Legion to not help their allies.

Also Umbrella is in war with STA and MK is in war with CCC. Calling this two different wars is really dumb.

I have talked to many people about this and they see it both ways. I even spoke with MK and they didn't even know. Just because your opinion is, that it is one war, doesn't mean that my initial outlook was "dumb". Also, just because "NPO ordered their allies in TPF and Legion to not help their allies" doesn't mean that the attack from Doomhouse was considered an act of this war. Doomhouse attacked an Alliance that had no connection to the war at the time (Except for he said she said information).

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No it's one war. The Doomhouse attack was an effect of the other war because NPO ordered their allies in TPF and Legion to not help their allies.

Also Umbrella is in war with STA and MK is in war with CCC. Calling this two different wars is really dumb.

Didn't see the other wars.

Still, in Archon's declaration, he wrote that "We cannot allow any chance of a return to power by the New Pacific Order." If Doomhouse is using that as part of the CB, I fail to see how this is part of the VE-NpO War. The Orders are no longer united by treaty. If Doomhouse were all that concerned about the Legion-NpO connection, why did they not attack Legion? Furthermore, the NPO/Legion MDP becomes an ODP in the event of chaining.

http://cybernations.wikia.com/wiki/Treaty_of_the_Purple_Star

See article 4.

There was more than one factor leading up to last night's attacks.

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Didn't see the other wars.

Still, in Archon's declaration, he wrote that "We cannot allow any chance of a return to power by the New Pacific Order." If Doomhouse is using that as part of the CB, I fail to see how this is part of the VE-NpO War. The Orders are no longer united by treaty. If Doomhouse were all that concerned about the Legion-NpO connection, why did they not attack Legion? Furthermore, the NPO/Legion MDP becomes an ODP in the event of chaining.

http://cybernations.wikia.com/wiki/Treaty_of_the_Purple_Star

See article 4.

There was more than one factor leading up to last night's attacks.

Very, very nice information and input on the situation. This s also another reason I believe this is its own war. This NPO and Doomhouse conflict was boiling for a bit and this was the perfect excuse and time for Doomhouse to pounce on NPO. Thank you for the input Henry.

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Very, very nice information and input on the situation. This s also another reason I believe this is its own war. This NPO and Doomhouse conflict was boiling for a bit and this was the perfect excuse and time for Doomhouse to pounce on NPO. Thank you for the input Henry.

No problem, this is probably going to be debated for a long long time. There are arguments to be made for a connection, I just think the case is stronger for it being 2 separate conflicts. Might blog about it later.

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No problem, this is probably going to be debated for a long long time. There are arguments to be made for a connection, I just think the case is stronger for it being 2 separate conflicts. Might blog about it later.

I will keep an eye out for it.

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Wiki says separate.

Wikia is user edited just like this blog. That is the opinion of the individual creating/editing the wikia page. Do you know who created that wikia for the war?

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I won't bother with the argument over whether this is the same or separate conflict, but at least (if possible) include it all on one graphic.

Plzzzzz

Sorry but I feel that this should be classified as two different wars. Don't worry, I have a feeling your War Web will be filled by next update anyway.

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Sorry but I feel that this should be classified as two different wars. Don't worry, I have a feeling your War Web will be filled by next update anyway.

News to me. Thanks for the intel!

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As I said earlier, this is a very extended prelude, an entrance. The first act hasn't happened yet. I'd be ready to fill that second page, if I were you. The NPO/Doomhouse drama is not separate from the conflict. It is a part of it. Their entrance is only part of the prelude, and it should be viewed that way. With peace already being declared, and the surrender thread gearing up, the evidence is clearly present that the prelude may be drawing to a close.

However, most preludes end with gusto, force, and in a very agitated move. More entrants will not be an anti-climax by any means. In fact, those whose entrance to this conflict yet to come may well spell the main theme of the entire opera. Having a second "page" does not signify the close of the prelude, nor the beginning of the first act. It merely gives the musicians another page of notes. It's all the same prelude. Please keep it that way.

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