Jharius II (The Last Republic)

Yeah I would count them as 2 separate conflicts. I believe \m/ was the only alliance connected to VE-NpO and they just dropped out.

No it's one war. The Doomhouse attack was an effect of the other war because NPO ordered their allies in TPF and Legion to not help their allies.

Also Umbrella is in war with STA and MK is in war with CCC. Calling this two different wars is really dumb.

Yeah I would count them as 2 separate conflicts. I believe \m/ was the only alliance connected to VE-NpO and they just dropped out.

Well MK also put out a DoW on CCC and Umbrella on STA so they are connected also. I guess you could look at this both ways. Due to the fact the "You spied... NO YOU Conflict" is getting crazy I am going to break it into two wars to make it easier on me .

No it's one war. The Doomhouse attack was an effect of the other war because NPO ordered their allies in TPF and Legion to not help their allies.

Also Umbrella is in war with STA and MK is in war with CCC. Calling this two different wars is really dumb.

I have talked to many people about this and they see it both ways. I even spoke with MK and they didn't even know. Just because your opinion is, that it is one war, doesn't mean that my initial outlook was "dumb". Also, just because "NPO ordered their allies in TPF and Legion to not help their allies" doesn't mean that the attack from Doomhouse was considered an act of this war. Doomhouse attacked an Alliance that had no connection to the war at the time (Except for he said she said information).

excuse me sir it's "GOONS" not "GOON"

excuse me sir it's "GOONS" not "GOON"

Couldn't fit "GOONS" on the template. If you look below at the legend then you will see that I spelled it right.

Ah.

Ah.

Sorry about the misunderstanding.

No it's one war. The Doomhouse attack was an effect of the other war because NPO ordered their allies in TPF and Legion to not help their allies.

Also Umbrella is in war with STA and MK is in war with CCC. Calling this two different wars is really dumb.

Didn't see the other wars.

Still, in Archon's declaration, he wrote that "We cannot allow any chance of a return to power by the New Pacific Order." If Doomhouse is using that as part of the CB, I fail to see how this is part of the VE-NpO War. The Orders are no longer united by treaty. If Doomhouse were all that concerned about the Legion-NpO connection, why did they not attack Legion? Furthermore, the NPO/Legion MDP becomes an ODP in the event of chaining.

http://cybernations.wikia.com/wiki/Treaty_of_the_Purple_Star

See article 4.

There was more than one factor leading up to last night's attacks.

Didn't see the other wars.

Still, in Archon's declaration, he wrote that "We cannot allow any chance of a return to power by the New Pacific Order." If Doomhouse is using that as part of the CB, I fail to see how this is part of the VE-NpO War. The Orders are no longer united by treaty. If Doomhouse were all that concerned about the Legion-NpO connection, why did they not attack Legion? Furthermore, the NPO/Legion MDP becomes an ODP in the event of chaining.

http://cybernations.wikia.com/wiki/Treaty_of_the_Purple_Star

See article 4.

There was more than one factor leading up to last night's attacks.

Very, very nice information and input on the situation. This s also another reason I believe this is its own war. This NPO and Doomhouse conflict was boiling for a bit and this was the perfect excuse and time for Doomhouse to pounce on NPO. Thank you for the input Henry.

Very, very nice information and input on the situation. This s also another reason I believe this is its own war. This NPO and Doomhouse conflict was boiling for a bit and this was the perfect excuse and time for Doomhouse to pounce on NPO. Thank you for the input Henry.

No problem, this is probably going to be debated for a long long time. There are arguments to be made for a connection, I just think the case is stronger for it being 2 separate conflicts. Might blog about it later.

No problem, this is probably going to be debated for a long long time. There are arguments to be made for a connection, I just think the case is stronger for it being 2 separate conflicts. Might blog about it later.

I will keep an eye out for it.

Wiki says separate.

Wiki says separate.

Wikia is user edited just like this blog. That is the opinion of the individual creating/editing the wikia page. Do you know who created that wikia for the war?

I won't bother with the argument over whether this is the same or separate conflict, but at least (if possible) include it all on one graphic.

Plzzzzz

I won't bother with the argument over whether this is the same or separate conflict, but at least (if possible) include it all on one graphic.

Plzzzzz

Sorry but I feel that this should be classified as two different wars. Don't worry, I have a feeling your War Web will be filled by next update anyway.

Jharius, you convinced me to make 2 separate webs for those 2 wars...

Jharius, you convinced me to make 2 separate webs for those 2 wars...

Good deal! It makes sence to me.

Sorry but I feel that this should be classified as two different wars. Don't worry, I have a feeling your War Web will be filled by next update anyway.

News to me. Thanks for the intel!

News to me. Thanks for the intel!

Speculations. Wouldn't classify it as intel.

As I said earlier, this is a very extended prelude, an entrance. The first act hasn't happened yet. I'd be ready to fill that second page, if I were you. The NPO/Doomhouse drama is not separate from the conflict. It is a part of it. Their entrance is only part of the prelude, and it should be viewed that way. With peace already being declared, and the surrender thread gearing up, the evidence is clearly present that the prelude may be drawing to a close.

However, most preludes end with gusto, force, and in a very agitated move. More entrants will not be an anti-climax by any means. In fact, those whose entrance to this conflict yet to come may well spell the main theme of the entire opera. Having a second "page" does not signify the close of the prelude, nor the beginning of the first act. It merely gives the musicians another page of notes. It's all the same prelude. Please keep it that way.