Shadow's Vault

Hahaha they really still use that? It seems there running out of propaganda already.

Making up some illusionary "moral barrier" that they haven't passed is convenient for an alliance that wants to blind-side people from the imposition of a million in tech reps or 1 year terms.

It's like that whole "wonder decommission" whining, the end goal is still the exact same thing.

Please enter on behalf of NPO so I can appoint Lamuella to be a viceroy for CoJ.

Please enter on behalf of NPO so I can appoint Lamuella to be a viceroy for CoJ.

Go right ahead, I know Lamuella has some prior experience coordinating reps on my behalf.

Lamuella for Viceroy of CoJ!

clicky

Now, what it isn't. It isn't a blast to the past (sorry folks, a hegemony worst than the last you won't get), given that we aren't ones to seek debilitating, humiliating terms (viceroys, government bans, extortionist reps, etc). As well, this isn't intended as the endgame

And another one. Besides being unable to use viceroys, it was of course Karma that did ban Caffine from Echelon, and GOONS which has been demanding $90,000,000 over $3,000,000 aid packages all year.

They just make it easy.

Cute, but none of those people have nations, and the vast, vast, majority of them we want nothing to do with at all. Way to overreact to a joke you massive baby.

Help me out and use one of these bad boys when you're joking given our special relationship. And no matter how many times you call me baby I'm not going to curl up in your arms.

Viceroys may still be installed, they just cannot ask for any "ownership" control of the alliance's forums/hosting/etc. As long as all of the directions given by the Viceroy fall within the IC boundaries then there is really no conflict with this rule.

Viceroys may still be installed, they just cannot ask for any "ownership" control of the alliance's forums/hosting/etc. As long as all of the directions given by the Viceroy fall within the IC boundaries then there is really no conflict with this rule.

This has been an invalid argument for 2 years. The point of a Viceroy is governance, governance cannot be achieved without complete access, complete access cannot be assured without administrative access. Without demands on RL property (forums) a Viceroy is incapable of performing its purpose.

That "argument" really got annoying.

This has been an invalid argument for 2 years. The point of a Viceroy is governance, governance cannot be achieved without complete access, complete access cannot be assured without administrative access. Without demands on RL property (forums) a Viceroy is incapable of performing its purpose.

Yes but you can still have viceroys...

I'm sure if you think about it you can come up with alternatives...because there are always alternatives.

Yes but you can still have viceroys...

I'm sure if you think about it you can come up with alternatives...because there are always alternatives.

Official Terms of Peace between the Viridian Coalition and the New Polar Order

1. The New Polar Order must accept Schattenmann into its Body Republic for a period of time not less than three months.

Signed,

--Impero, Lord of the Viridian Entente, representing Viridia and her allies

--Gopherbashi, Emperor of Polaris

This has been an invalid argument for 2 years. The point of a Viceroy is governance, governance cannot be achieved without complete access, complete access cannot be assured without administrative access. Without demands on RL property (forums) a Viceroy is incapable of performing its purpose.

I disagree. You can govern an alliance without having root admin, which is the only thing that the rule forbids (demanding RL control of the board). You could even do it with a non-admin mask.

This has been an invalid argument for 2 years. The point of a Viceroy is governance, governance cannot be achieved without complete access, complete access cannot be assured without administrative access. Without demands on RL property (forums) a Viceroy is incapable of performing its purpose.

What gives you this idea?

"Follow the instructions of the Viceroy or we roll you"

"Give the Viceroy adequate means to provide instructions or we roll you"

I don't see much essential past that. Perhaps add some time frames.

If you're worried about information being kept from you, the only thing granting admin access will stop is it being kept from you on that one specific forum. If you're arguing that governance cannot be achieved without complete access then you're arguing that a proper Viceroy is an impossible concept to begin with.