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Personal Musings On The Current Conflict

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Rudolph

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War has started once more.

The propaganda machine has been turned on, slowly gearing up to churn out the drivel and rhetoric that infests the forums around war time. The usual heavy hitters can be seen advocating and debating for their respective side's (actions/stances, take your pick) in this rapidly engulfing conflict.

Was NEW in the right? No.

Was it ethical for them to do so? Undoubtedly no.

Was it moral for them to take vengeance? Vengeance has never been moral.

Did NEW exercise their right to take vengeance? Indeed, they did.

Were PC/iFOK cowards for not outright defending their ally in NEW? Subjective to each person's independent view, though personally I can understand their position.

Is it obvious that they tried their best at ending the conflict peacefully? Undoubtedly so.

Did the current power structure surrounding Pandora's Box play a part in this situation? Yes.

I do admit that it is a bit surprising to see the past motto of 'Friends > Infra' being used by the side labeled by most as Ex-heg/Polaris against SG/PB. Then again, politics is always in motion and the power that used to rest at Q's hand is now in the hands of SG/PB, there is no doubt about that.

Will this war be a curbstomp? That still has to be seen depending on how the counter DoW's are done.

Either way, war is war even when it might be vastly overwhelming on one side. All we're here is to play a war game behind a thin veil of a political simulator, not to stagnate the war game by overusing the "realpolitik" of the political simulator.

PS: Happy Christmas and Happy Holidays, everybody. ^_^

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I really don't think Pandora's Box had anything to do with the decisions of iFOK or PC. At least, I hope they didn't.

iFOK isn't in the wrong, they had allies on both sides, sitting out when you have allies on both sides has usually been the standard CN practice, outside of dropping a treaty after deciding which of your friends is in fact your bestest friend.

PC just doesn't know where their priorities are any longer. This is NEW, NEW would have been there to the death for PC, the bond at one point went both ways, considering the treaty took years to sign in the first place because of how unwaveringly loyal NEW has always been. PC had an obligation that, in my opinion went beyond mere treaty obligation, they were obligated as genuine friends to help out. They didn't, and it's disappointing.

I don't know, treaties are only pieces of e-paper, and bonds these days are paper thin, that's all I got from this.

[edit:] And I'm just going to say this, because I don't think people realize the quality of friends that NEW truly are. Yes, they make mistakes, they $%&@ up, have $%&@ed up, and probably will $%&@ up again in the future, they're like every alliance in that regard, only the most isolated alliances don't $%&@ up at some point. I've even criticized them in the past for using the "we're not really good at english" excuse to get out of trouble, I know who they are and what they've done and what they're capable of.

NEW however, is about as close as you can get to rock solid in this game. They don't care for politics, they don't care for infrastructure, they don't care whether they win or lose, all they care for is their friends. If you're their friend, if they consider you their friend, they will sacrifice everything for you, and HAVE sacrificed everything in the past, it is the type of mentality that was shared between PC and NEW and it was that mentality that first drew them close together (outside of both being offshoots of TPF). They are just about the best friends, and best allies in this game that you can have, that includes all their faults and all their imperfections, and the trouble they're likely to get into again, they are still the best friends, and best allies you can have.

It's just frustrating that all of that was forgotten so easily.

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NEW however, is about as close as you can get to rock solid in this game. They don't care for politics, they don't care for infrastructure, they don't care whether they win or lose, all they care for is their friends. If you're their friend, if they consider you their friend, they will sacrifice everything for you, and HAVE sacrificed everything in the past, it is the type of mentality that was shared between PC and NEW and it was that mentality that first drew them close together (outside of both being offshoots of TPF). They are just about the best friends, and best allies in this game that you can have, that includes all their faults and all their imperfections, and the trouble they're likely to get into again, they are still the best friends, and best allies you can have.

It's just frustrating that all of that was forgotten so easily.

Green,

A lot of old PC'ers still feel that way. I know I do, hence why I am fighting for them now. There was quite the heated conversation on our forums about it. Whether or not more will follow our lead, who knows.

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Green,

A lot of old PC'ers still feel that way. I know I do, hence why I am fighting for them now. There was quite the heated conversation on our forums about it. Whether or not more will follow our lead, who knows.

Who knows indeed. I understand the need and want for security in this game, and why politics more often than not comes into play for everyone, and perhaps I'm too far removed from what PC is now, and maybe I hold on to the ideals of the old PC a little too strongly to comprehend why this decision was made, but politics was never what PC was meant for. NEW simply didn't deserve to be a casualty of the greater political game of CN.

Again, it's just frustrating, if this were another alliance I'd understand, but it's NEW.

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I agree with A_j as far as PC goes. But as far as iFOK goes i think they should help pay any reps NEW is hit with. you signed a treaty..something that says you will help your friends and now youve run from them

And before someone cites conflicting treaties thats just a garbage excuse. If you have treaties on both sides of the web (Rok, iFOK just to name a few..MHA having patented this move to avoid war) quite frankly needs to do some reviews of their FA and downgrade to optional defense or be prepared to be stuck in the middle and deal with the issues alliances like PC are currently dealing with

btw, PCers and iFOKkers who have since joined NEW. You deserve the highest praise possible for doing something those in power are too afraid to do...

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