The Goon Experience

No I mean.

"They sought a CB that wasn't there, they discussed making up a CB, they discussed alliances who would never, ever fight on their side, they demonstrated ignorance of politics and diplomacy itself"

1. False CB generated by Genmay (that they acted on).

2. Alliances that weren't on their side (tons of them).

3. Ignorance of politics and diplomacy. (GOONS, \m/, Genmay).

And those alliances got forced disbandment is what I mean. And even the month of existence was riddled with huge problems that I won't go into for obvious reasons.

They were also the Unjust Pact, not the Moralist brigade who were in the process of doing all things evil.

People really need to stop throwing me in as a 'moralist.'

People really need to stop throwing me in as a 'moralist.'

The true and righteous hero of CN?

For the monster GOONS is usually made out to be, we don't usually just grasp at any old CB to go to war.

Indeed, you are happy with tech raiding and attempting to bait small AA's into attacking you with "do something about it."

Sad part is, it works.

GOONS likes to play the bad guy but does grasping at any excuse (and if none can be found, using entrapment) in order to wipe out their enemies sound like something fair and just people do?

First point is good. Second point...don't get caught in their trap.

I wish some of you people could really listen to yourselves. Yes, I get that you feel you're totally justified in eliminating GOONS without politically correct means, but if you just put aside your own personal feelings and look at the situation objectively you'll see that we haven't done a whole lot that's really "evil".

But everyone needs some to hate and scheme against

The true and righteous hero of CN?

I guess I could live with that.

This is stupid. Get a clue Sardonic

This is stupid. Get a clue Sardonic

rofl

Sorry. But I had to.

For the monster GOONS is usually made out to be, we don't usually just grasp at any old CB to go to war. The fact is we don't really need to start anything. If we want a war, there's usually a ton of angry and ignorant rulers who are so blinded by their intense dislike of us that they think they are totally justified in attacking us for any reason at all and actually having a valid reason for attacking us is only something they want to consider because of the political impact.

GOONS likes to play the bad guy but does grasping at any excuse (and if none can be found, using entrapment) in order to wipe out their enemies sound like something fair and just people do?

I wish some of you people could really listen to yourselves. Yes, I get that you feel you're totally justified in eliminating GOONS without politically correct means, but if you just put aside your own personal feelings and look at the situation objectively you'll see that we haven't done a whole lot that's really "evil".

There were times when alliances did some pretty terrible things and got in a lot of hot water over them. These days, with those alliances gone (or neutered) and a really intricate treaty web ensuring that people begrudgingly get along some of you people are so desperate for some great evil to lay your vengeance upon that you'll really grasp at anything and in my eyes that makes you the bad guys, not us.

I mean I'm all for cyber-anarchy. I don't really care who gets attacked and who fights who, I'm sick to death of the treaty web and of all of the alliances in CN being cowards and generally not caring about the game anymore, only about their precious stats.

This is stupid. Get a clue Sardonic

Awesome.

This is a war where I would of loved to see Athens declare in support of GOONS.

Seriously, some of you people seem obsessed with the idea of rolling them.

This is stupid. Get a clue Sardonic

Irony at it's finest, from what we've seen.

I mean I'm all for cyber-anarchy. I don't really care who gets attacked and who fights who, I'm sick to death of the treaty web and of all of the alliances in CN being cowards and generally not caring about the game anymore, only about their precious stats.

It's still a game, and we're still gonna play to win, I don't see why we should sacrifice ourselves, and our chances to win a war, just to add a bit of 'excitement' to those people content to hug their infrastructure and/or jump on the bandwagon of the winning side. We were the ones putting effort into it, after all, rather than sitting at the top of the world waiting, even begging for others to attack them, for others to do the work to make the game exciting so they can effortlessly win yet another war.

And of course, a few months from now, all of us are going to get rolled for what went down in those logs. People wonder why we have the stagnation we do, begging for a war, then they go out of their way to mock and punish people for trying to start something.

So blame the cowards, who would have used the lack of a 'traditional CB' as an excuse to not put their precious stats on the line, for this not going down. Blame everyone who doesn't dare to do something, who just sits there not crossing any lines and trying to rectify any small problem. Before Karma, nobody, and especially none of those at the top, cared about that, and when they were on top crossing lines and pushing people around, this game was at it's best. Now anyone who dares to cross a line, if they aren't forced by their allies to back off so the New Hegemony doesn't split, is probably not tied to the New Hegemony and becomes the recipient of a curbie.

Here at the bottom, faced with a great challenge, the game is fun. We've no need to sacrifice our game just to provide entertainment to infra huggers and cowards, who whine about stagnation but are too afraid to remove themselves as part of the problem, for whatever silly excuse they can pull out of their ass. Not just alliances, but every individual member of those culprit alliances.

/me wipes the froth from his mouth

I'm just sick of seeing people whining about stagnation, and the whining invariably coming from people who have no will to solve the problem themselves.

This is stupid. Get a clue Sardonic

xfd. You should post more.

This is stupid. Get a clue Sardonic

lol, what's wrong, can't handle the spotlight?

This is stupid. Get a clue Sardonic

Looks like someone isn't happy about how they came off in these logs!

Protip: If you don't want to look like a massive idiot with the cognitive reasoning of a Goldfish cracker, don't be one.

All they succeeded in doing was letting us know who are enemies are

Besides maybe a few of the names I've seen like Sparta wasn't it already obvious who these people were?

Looks like someone isn't happy about how they came off in these logs!

Protip: If you don't want to look like a massive idiot with the cognitive reasoning of a Goldfish cracker, don't be one.

I like your style of posting. You almost made me spit my water out.

Hey Daggarz, what's with trying to poach your old nemesis members to join you in CoJ?

Not once during these conversations when CnG was being discussed was =LOST= mentioned. Not like we are treatied with GOONS or anything. Regardless Im still more disappointed that you didnt go through with rolling GOONS, it might have caused some fun.

A couple of things:

1. A lot of you people (those in the logs) have been around here for a long time. So how come the CB's that were getting tossed around were so astoundingly bad? Fake trap alliances? Really? pezstar was right, (I'm paraphrasing here...) your plans would have been more credible and likely to succeed if you had all just DoWed GOONs with the reason: "We hate goons!"

2. Could whoever keeps leaking these logs please stop it! I despise poor war planning and tech raiding and curbstomping but I really really look down on people who can't keep a secret. And this isn't a pro goon / anti goons thing. I just really hate poor opsec.