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Highlights from WCE: Part 20

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[22:31] <%Rebel_Virginia> Let's win it.

[22:32] <%bzelger[sTA]> I don't like leaving the Ninjas or FnKA out there longer than necessary if we're going in soon

[22:32] <%TehChron> Mhm

[22:32] <%TehChron> but they picked that fight for a reason

[22:32] <%TehChron> so lets not let that reason go to waste

No, actually they picked the fight for no reason, quite literally in fact.

[22:32] <@bud> if its done to win i can sell it. To do it just to die and let them rampage through the game with out fear no way CJ will go for it

[22:32] <@MegaAros> Suppose they mistreated the Ninja's attempt to peace out.

[22:33] <@MegaAros> Could that be used as a CB?

[22:33] <%Rebel_Virginia> Not really.

[22:33] <%Voodoo> I need to be able to sell this to IAA as well

Good to see they aren't that stupid.

[22:34] <%Voodoo> We all need to be on the same page to get it to work

[22:34] <%TehChron> but we need a *good* *compelling* argument

[22:34] <%TehChron> or its all wasted

[22:34] <%Rebel_Virginia> We'll need some good propaganda.

[22:34] <%Rebel_Virginia> We're going to want to win some hearts here.

[22:34] <%Rebel_Virginia> Make people want to roll GOONS.

[22:34] <%TehChron> make people want to roll GOONS *despite* their friends

I'm flattered that we somehow evoke enough hate to make people forget how well-connected we are.

[22:38] <%TehChron> Well, too many fingers in this pie right now

[22:38] <%TehChron> lets leave that issue for after we have what we want to convey

[22:38] <%TehChron> No need to incite egos to rub against each other while were all still in agreement

[22:39] <@MegaAros> If you're going to start a war of words.

[22:39] <@MegaAros> Be careful.

[22:39] <@MegaAros> They may catch on.

[22:39] <@MegaAros> AND LOL COLD WAR

[22:39] <%TehChron> Of course

[22:39] <%TehChron> but why would we start a war right now?

[22:39] <%TehChron> well settle this with our guns

[22:39] <%TehChron> and win over hearts with our words

[22:39] <%TehChron> need a compelling story to use words effectively

[22:40] <%TehChron> and until we have one, going for such a conflict is futile

[22:40] <%TehChron> itll just be empty braying

Any war of words would have been tragically lost, given the fact that the facts are indisputably on our side of the issue.

[22:42] <%Voodoo> Thing is, tech raids gone bad have become the norm enough that some just don't care. What story would be able to come from a tech raid gone bad?

[22:42] <@Grumpdogg[NpO]> eventually it will come down to one alliance saying "actually we won't just bend over for GOONS"

[22:43] <@Grumpdogg[NpO]> it will have to be a decently connect alliance

(So not UPN then)

[22:49] <%TehChron> Well, to be fair

[22:49] <%TehChron> they did start with advantage anyway

[22:49] <%Voodoo> Are GOONS allies still getting reps?

[22:49] <%TehChron> and the element of surprise isnt exactly enough for us to win

[22:50] <@Grumpdogg[NpO]> yeah

[22:50] <@Grumpdogg[NpO]> i still want to know who the actual fence sitters are

[22:50] <%TehChron> we can find that out

[22:50] <@Grumpdogg[NpO]> if we're sitting here waiting for Sparta and MHA to commit

[22:50] <@Grumpdogg[NpO]> then we really are <removed>

Astute as ever, Grumpdogg.

[22:54] <@Peggy_Sue|UPN> Well, I am sorry UPN will not be able to provide the CB that is needed. Please let me know when one comes up and what I may do to help

The operation a bust, Peggy apologizes for not being able to manufacture a CB.

[23:03] <+Lennox> Why is dark fist in here? and nemesis

[23:03] <%Voodoo> I have a Tesla avatar somewhere

[23:03] <%TehChron> because they were invited, I guess

[23:03] <@Poyples> be nice Lennox:(

[23:03] <@SCM|Studies> Lennox: spying on NSO

[23:04] <+Lennox> No its a valid question

[23:04] <+Lennox> I thought the black sphere was buddy buddy

Now, the black sphere is many things, but buddy buddy it is not.

[23:05] <@SCM|Studies> the black sphere is buddy buddy, with the exception of goons

[23:06] <@Poyples> GOONS aren't the biggest fans of Nemesis since Daggarz was mean to one of their members

[23:06] <%TehChron> So theyre the eh...black sheep?

[23:06] <%TehChron> or the albinos of the black sphere?

[23:06] <@SCM|Studies> or <removed>

[23:06] <%TehChron> god <removed> it I was being subtle

No, we're not the biggest fans of Nemesis because Nemesis is a legitimately terrible alliance.

[23:06] <%Rebel_Virginia> Does anyone notice who makes up this coalition?

[23:06] <%Rebel_Virginia> NSO, DF.

[23:07] <%Rebel_Virginia> We need CSN.

[23:07] <%TehChron> Ill get right on that

[23:07] <%Atlashill[invicta]> CSN?

[23:07] <%TehChron> Yes

[23:07] <%Rebel_Virginia> It was a joke.

[23:07] <%Atlashill[invicta]> The moment they see UPN's in it, they'll bolt.

CSN is quickly mentioned and discarded.

[23:07] <%TehChron> I already sent the logs to Penkala

[23:07] <%Atlashill[invicta]> :o

[23:07] <%TehChron> :P

[23:07] <@Poyples> exposé coming up

[23:07] <%Atlashill[invicta]> RUN FOR IT!

Exposé almost done.

[23:07] <%Rebel_Virginia> But yes, there certainly are some strange bedfellows here.

[23:07] <%Rebel_Virginia> But it is necessary.

[23:07] * %Atlashill[invicta] runs to hide

[23:08] <%Rebel_Virginia> GOONS must die.

RV, GOONS slayer.

[23:09] <@Grumpdogg[NpO]> hopefully one day someone will defend their members when GOONS pull another stunt

[23:09] <%Rebel_Virginia> Or their protectorate.

[23:09] <@Grumpdogg[NpO]> it used to be the basic premise an alliance was founded on

Yes, accepting nuclear rogues and demanding those they wronged peace out with them is the premise an alliance is founded on.

[23:10] <@Grumpdogg[NpO]> now GOONS can play their fiddle on the OWF and get away with murder

I won my golden fiddle from the devil himself.

[23:12] <%Voodoo> It's because they said "do something about it" enough times that people assume they can't do anything unless a massive war happens

[23:12] <%Atlashill[invicta]> The next time they say it.

[23:13] <%Atlashill[invicta]> Say "Done"

[23:13] <%Atlashill[invicta]> :P

[23:13] <%Voodoo> Two alliances have done that already

And it's not working out terribly well for them, I might add.

[23:14] <%Atlashill[invicta]> But there are 20 here.

[23:14] <%Atlashill[invicta]> 20 saying done in unison will resonate more than two.

[23:15] <%TehChron> ???

[23:15] <%Atlashill[invicta]> "Do Something About It"

[23:15] <%Voodoo> That's like showing your hand before the bets are done

A lie, if repeated by enough people, is the truth, apparently.

All they succeeded in doing was letting us know who are enemies are, which I suppose is important enough. They sought a CB that wasn't there, they discussed making up a CB, they discussed alliances who would never, ever fight on their side, they demonstrated ignorance of politics and diplomacy itself, they truly are the Worst Coalition Ever. That's all for now, unless somebody wants to send me more logs that I have not mentioned here, in which case, please do so. I will have one final bonus post after this, and then we can put a close to the most laughable coalition in cybernations history. (unless I get more logs, of course).

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Couldn't you have just made this into a gigantic post? Honest to god your commentary is quite dry. It's like playing madden and listen to Collinsworth talk about how Jake Delhome is a shoddy passer because Brian Robiskie can't catch.

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They sought a CB that wasn't there, they discussed making up a CB, they discussed alliances who would never, ever fight on their side, they demonstrated ignorance of politics and diplomacy itself, they truly are the Worst Coalition Ever.

You know, UJP did all of those things too. They also had 3 alliances forced to disband. Now I know how everybody in this game loves to connect "Worst ______ Ever" to anything they don't like (and to be fair, this was a terrible showing to all involved) but this isn't the first time such a thing has transpired.

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You know, UJP did all of those things too. They also had 3 alliances forced to disband. Now I know how everybody in this game loves to connect "Worst ______ Ever" to anything they don't like (and to be fair, this was a terrible showing to all involved) but this isn't the first time such a thing has transpired.

The UJP existed for about a month and didn't force anyone to disband.

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The UJP existed for about a month and didn't force anyone to disband.

No I mean.

"They sought a CB that wasn't there, they discussed making up a CB, they discussed alliances who would never, ever fight on their side, they demonstrated ignorance of politics and diplomacy itself"

1. False CB generated by Genmay (that they acted on).

2. Alliances that weren't on their side (tons of them).

3. Ignorance of politics and diplomacy. (GOONS, \m/, Genmay).

And those alliances got forced disbandment is what I mean. And even the month of existence was riddled with huge problems that I won't go into for obvious reasons.

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Now it looks like you have a CB to attack everyone who is plotting to attack you. I'll be interested to see where this goes.

For the monster GOONS is usually made out to be, we don't usually just grasp at any old CB to go to war. The fact is we don't really need to start anything. If we want a war, there's usually a ton of angry and ignorant rulers who are so blinded by their intense dislike of us that they think they are totally justified in attacking us for any reason at all and actually having a valid reason for attacking us is only something they want to consider because of the political impact.

GOONS likes to play the bad guy but does grasping at any excuse (and if none can be found, using entrapment) in order to wipe out their enemies sound like something fair and just people do?

I wish some of you people could really listen to yourselves. Yes, I get that you feel you're totally justified in eliminating GOONS without politically correct means, but if you just put aside your own personal feelings and look at the situation objectively you'll see that we haven't done a whole lot that's really "evil".

There were times when alliances did some pretty terrible things and got in a lot of hot water over them. These days, with those alliances gone (or neutered) and a really intricate treaty web ensuring that people begrudgingly get along some of you people are so desperate for some great evil to lay your vengeance upon that you'll really grasp at anything and in my eyes that makes you the bad guys, not us.

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Now it looks like you have a CB to attack everyone who is plotting to attack you. I'll be interested to see where this goes.

As much as they brag that they would have crushed us, they know they won't win this war, or it will at least be very bloody. It's why they haven't attacked us yet.

Also, you can't very well demand reps after starting an aggressive war. It's one of the very few things that hasn't happened since Karma, and I doubt GOONS are the ones who will change that precedent. And if they aren't going to make some quick cash, they won't go that route.

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As much as they brag that they would have crushed us, they know they won't win this war, or it will at least be very bloody. It's why they haven't attacked us yet.

Also, you can't very well demand reps after starting an aggressive war. It's one of the very few things that hasn't happened since Karma, and I doubt GOONS are the ones who will change that precedent. And if they aren't going to make some quick cash, they won't go that route.

Actually we did this in TOP-C&G. But whatever man, keep living in your fantasy world.

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As much as they brag that they would have crushed us, they know they won't win this war, or it will at least be very bloody. It's why they haven't attacked us yet.

I can't speak for everyone, but in my eyes the reason we haven't attacked you is because it's more fun to watch you squirm and scream every time we spill ice cream on someone's shirt.

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I can't speak for everyone, but in my eyes the reason we haven't attacked you is because it's more fun to watch you squirm and scream every time we spill ice cream on someone's shirt.

You. Ruined. My. Shirt.

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No I mean.

"They sought a CB that wasn't there, they discussed making up a CB, they discussed alliances who would never, ever fight on their side, they demonstrated ignorance of politics and diplomacy itself"

1. False CB generated by Genmay (that they acted on).

2. Alliances that weren't on their side (tons of them).

3. Ignorance of politics and diplomacy. (GOONS, \m/, Genmay).

And those alliances got forced disbandment is what I mean. And even the month of existence was riddled with huge problems that I won't go into for obvious reasons.

While I'm considering debating some of your points I'll concede the misunderstanding about the disbanding so as to avoid a debate that's 3 years too late.

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So would I, actually. Thanks for being a dick, whomever you are.

In a way, they're doing you a favour since the logs really make you look like one of the most intelligent people in the room.

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In a way, they're doing you a favour since the logs really make you look like one of the most intelligent people in the room.

To be fair, being one of the more intelligent people in that room really isn't saying much.

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In a way, they're doing you a favour since the logs really make you look like one of the most intelligent people in the room.

Granted, but God that is a terrible way of measuring someone's intelligence.

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