[19:48] <%Rebel_Virginia> Although GOONS has done a lot of wrong things, we need a CB.

[19:48] <%pezstar> Yes

06[19:48] * @bud takes mouth wash out rinses real quick and agrees with pezstar

[19:48] <%Rebel_Virginia> Spying, a raid gone awry.

[19:48] <%pezstar>

[19:48] <%Rebel_Virginia> Something, anything.

[19:48] <%Rebel_Virginia> There are a lot of swing alliances.

[19:48] <@Poyples> it's silly to go into this without a CB when one is right there sitting for us to take

The hunt is on, the hunters begin plotting out ways to find the elusive CB.

[19:48] <@Doppelganger> extorting 90 mil out of Doppelganger

[19:48] <@Doppelganger> theres a CB

Numerous theories are tested

[19:48] <@HeroofTime55> We're relying on the bandwagon here, we're relying on the swing alliances

[19:48] <%Rebel_Virginia> Alliances who will only come in on our side if we have a "valid CB."

[19:48] <%Rebel_Virginia> If we don't, they defend GOONS.

[19:48] <%Rebel_Virginia> Those alliances will make the difference in this.

RV, having reconsidered his earlier position, decides that CB is actually important.

[19:49] <%pezstar> If the UPN war is peaced out, it's over.

[19:50] <%Rebel_Virginia> What UPN war?

[19:50] <@Daggarz[Nemesis]> it was without UPN permission

[19:50] <@MegaAros> Ah.

[19:50] <@MegaAros> RV is out of the loop.

[19:50] <@Daggarz[Nemesis]> GOONS said that UPN accepted 1mill reps

[19:50] <@Daggarz[Nemesis]> when UPN didn't

Ah yes, the 1m, which was asked for by the nation that was mistakenly raided, and sent by the radier nation, unknown to both alliance governments. They caused quite the hubub, and come up multiple times in the discussion.

[19:50] <~Schattenmann> Tell them 1m is not enough, and DO NOT take that peace offer

[19:50] <@Daggarz[Nemesis]> yeh the nation peaced out

[19:50] <@Daggarz[Nemesis]> but thats irrelevant

[19:50] <%Rebel_Virginia> The nation peace out?

01[19:50] <%TehChron> its very relevant

I'm genuinely interested that this started a debate, not having a real important stake in it, that they debated this issue for quite some time, heatedly.

[19:50] <%pezstar> It's not irrelevant.

[19:50] <@HeroofTime55> It has to be no less than $90m

[19:51] <%pezstar> If it's peaced out, it's over.

[19:51] <@Daggarz[Nemesis]> just because its not an active war anymore doesn't mean you just forget about it

[19:51] <@Daggarz[Nemesis]> if i was to raid an STA nation right now

[19:51] <@Daggarz[Nemesis]> and send peace

[19:51] <@Daggarz[Nemesis]> and they accepted

[19:51] <@Daggarz[Nemesis]> would you say its over?

[19:51] <%pezstar> Yes/.

[19:51] <@Daggarz[Nemesis]> then you are a fool

01[19:51] <%TehChron> ^^

01[19:51] <%TehChron> Oh dear lord

[19:51] <@HeroofTime55> frack

Pezstar makes a strange claim, I'm not sure if I'd agree with it.

01[19:51] <%TehChron> you're trying to make an argument for a war

01[19:51] <%TehChron> and the basic premise is overridden?

01[19:51] <%TehChron> you need a new justification

01[19:52] <%TehChron> you better give us *all* the pertinent information here

[19:52] <%Rebel_Virginia> Daggarz[Nemesis]: Most people would say it was over.

RV agrees with her, apparently.

19:52] <@Daggarz[Nemesis]> i disagree whole heartedly

[19:52] <@Daggarz[Nemesis]> most people certainly would not

01[19:52] <%TehChron> whether you disagree or not is irrelvant

[19:52] <%Rebel_Virginia> And they'd say that if STA pushed for war after peace was accepted, well, then they were just looking for trouble,

01[19:52] <%TehChron> were not convincing you

[19:52] <@Daggarz[Nemesis]> the nation accepted peace

01[19:52] <%TehChron> were convincing unvinvoled parties

And the claws come out.

[19:52] <%pezstar> I feel like STA is one of the more reasonable alliances out there.

01[19:52] <%TehChron> if you've got would-be allies saying its relevant, then its relevant

[19:52] <@Poyples> GOONS have been lying about UPN's government actions to try and get out of paying reps?

[19:52] <%pezstar> If we think the CB is dead, it's a safe bet that it's dead.

[19:53] <@Poyples> well, paying $1mil

01[19:53] <%TehChron> And STA especially is a good barometer of what is reasonable

[19:53] <%pezstar> I'm telling you that you need something else.

The CB big game hunters go back to the drawing board.

More to come in the next part