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This is why you switch to black


Caleb279

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The name sounds kind of poetic right?

Basically I'll write about some of the major things going on around CN, what the latest high-ups are discussing, all that good stuff. Then you all can tell me if you give a %$&* or not.

Right now: The red sphere. It sure is the center of attention. Personally I think its all retarded. This all started once upon a time with the New Pacific Order, and Ivan Moldavi claiming all of the red nations? Now there's the Revenge Doctrine out there. Plus, the NPO is the only red alliance worth their salt out there anymore. Stop pretending people, this is just ridiculous. You know what making more rules does? Create more rule-breakers. You push people, they'll push back. I'm half tempted to go raid red right now...

The point is this: The Red Dawn is stupid. They don't even have the balls to DoW, they just want to announce "Hey, we have power, check us out".

If you want to avoid all this high school drama, switch to black! :awesome: *Propaganda coming soon*

There may be more on this later...thats all for now. Let me know your thoughts on this Red Dawn situation.

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The Moldavi Doctrine proclaimed that the Red sphere was the sole property of NPO, not that they'd protect all unaligned red. You're thinking of the Revenge Doctrine.

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The Moldavi Doctrine proclaimed that the Red sphere was the sole property of NPO, not that they'd protect all unaligned red. You're thinking of the Revenge Doctrine.

Thought someone would correct me on that...thanks.

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Soo you're saying Black sphere will defend tech raiders? you better start right at home then because you're a hypocrite to say "WE WONT ALLOW RAIDING ON BLACK!" but allow black alliances to raid other spheres

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Thought someone would correct me on that...thanks.

So you expected someone to correct the facts that you didn't look up? I believe you've missed a &$*#ton of things.

You claim that this move was made by Red Dawn to show their power. It wasn't. If Red Dawn had power this situation would have never happened

Also why should nations join Black? Most of the alliances who are participating in the Red Safari also raid black. So I have no idea why you should.

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Soo you're saying Black sphere will defend tech raiders? you better start right at home then because you're a hypocrite to say "WE WONT ALLOW RAIDING ON BLACK!" but allow black alliances to raid other spheres

This isn't what I'm saying at all. I sarcastically recruited nations to the black sphere by stating that red is unsafe and full of drama.

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So you expected someone to correct the facts that you didn't look up? I believe you've missed a &$*#ton of things.

You claim that this move was made by Red Dawn to show their power. It wasn't. If Red Dawn had power this situation would have never happened

Also why should nations join Black? Most of the alliances who are participating in the Red Safari also raid black. So I have no idea why you should.

No, I thought that was the reason why...but I was in the middle of checking that when he posted my mistake. So when I came back, I said "thought someone would correct that". Simple mistake.

Then why did they make the announcement?

Because Asgaard's on black :awesome: . As I stated, it was just sarcastic/ fake recruiting. My point is red can be a very confusing sphere, and so everybody should come join us.

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Isn't the NPO part of Red Dawn anyway?

Yeah, along with Cult of Justitia, The Moralist Front, and NAC. What I'm saying is those three aren't worth anything close to what NPO is. Red Dawn is pointless, its still NPO trying to show they control red sphere and can stop the raiding.

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I suppose that if NOIR really wanted to, it could end black sphere raiding, but I doubt it.

Actually it has been done in some cases. If a small alliance joins NOIR and that's there only treaties most of NOIR gets pretty pissed if they get raided. (AGW-Summer incident) I think there are too many Pro-tech raid forces within NOIR for them to ever do something like that though. It would be very interesting to see how \m/ and GOONS did respond if that happened though. Black Civil War! This time minus TOLWYN.

Caleb, coming at this with allies on both sides I can tell you something from a neutral standpoint. Revenge Doctrine is outdated. It needs to be rescinded. However, This is in no way NPO's fault why these small nations are getting raided. It's just something \m/, GOONS, and a few others decided to do to try and kick some dust in NPO's face. NPO isn't dumb so they're not going to respond (by themselves anyway) and so they're just kind of sitting around wishing they hadn't strong armed so many people way back when so that they were in a better position. I actually find it deplorable how these small red nations who haven't done anything at all are paying for NPO's mistakes though.

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This isn't what I'm saying at all. I sarcastically recruited nations to the black sphere by stating that red is unsafe and full of drama.

Historically Black has had a lot more drama than Red has ever had. Even going back to the first GOONS. Even now there are some people within black who is upset about how NOIR acts and it's application process to newer alliances wishing to join.

Red has really never had too much drama and has been one of the best spheres for the unaligned until recent history. I feel like you don't actually know what you're talking about as this will never go to war and everyone knows it. This mass raid is just, to quote Schatt, " To me, attacking USSR and a bunch of unaligneds to get under NPO/Red Dawn's skin is like NPO attacking BDC to get under NpO's skin, or Valhalla attacking BAPS to get under MK's skin." That's all it is. Just a political ploy(for most alliances. I know \m/ isn't fighting to take the pot shot at NPO) at the expense of unaligned nations.

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Caleb, coming at this with allies on both sides I can tell you something from a neutral standpoint. Revenge Doctrine is outdated. It needs to be rescinded. However, This is in no way NPO's fault why these small nations are getting raided. It's just something \m/, GOONS, and a few others decided to do to try and kick some dust in NPO's face. NPO isn't dumb so they're not going to respond (by themselves anyway) and so they're just kind of sitting around wishing they hadn't strong armed so many people way back when so that they were in a better position. I actually find it deplorable how these small red nations who haven't done anything at all are paying for NPO's mistakes though.

At the same time, most put themselves on red to be with NPO...so they kind of deserve it. Collateral damage I guess.

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Historically Black has had a lot more drama than Red has ever had. Even going back to the first GOONS. Even now there are some people within black who is upset about how NOIR acts and it's application process to newer alliances wishing to join.

Red has really never had too much drama and has been one of the best spheres for the unaligned until recent history. I feel like you don't actually know what you're talking about as this will never go to war and everyone knows it. This mass raid is just, to quote Schatt, " To me, attacking USSR and a bunch of unaligneds to get under NPO/Red Dawn's skin is like NPO attacking BDC to get under NpO's skin, or Valhalla attacking BAPS to get under MK's skin." That's all it is. Just a political ploy(for most alliances. I know \m/ isn't fighting to take the pot shot at NPO) at the expense of unaligned nations.

Ok, again, sarcasm. I've been around longer than you...I know. I thought my sarcasm was genius but apparently you guys don't get it.

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As a clarification,the NOIR treaty does not say NOIR signatories would protect Black nations from Tech Raiding. It does say NOIR signatories are not allowed to tech raid black nations. As an alliance who has been on Maroon and Black, I will say that the NOIR application process and the SPAM/MEP process were about the same.

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As a clarification,the NOIR treaty does not say NOIR signatories would protect Black nations from Tech Raiding. It does say NOIR signatories are not allowed to tech raid black nations. As an alliance who has been on Maroon and Black, I will say that the NOIR application process and the SPAM/MEP process were about the same.

Thanks gam. You think NOIR will ever turn into anything like the Red Dawn?

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No, Red Dawn has a completely different style than NOIR. Also, there are a few alliances that statistically don't mean a thing but are important in politics CoJ and TMF for instance. Anyone who writes Schattenman off needs a history lesson :P

Interesting opinions Caleb but I would take a less conclusive style and add a bit more discussion to your blog.

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Even now there are some people within black who is upset about how NOIR acts and it's application process to newer alliances wishing to join.

Some people who is? It's a proud day for you and your family.

Anyway- guys, don't get all up in arms about this...it is a joke. Are you guys really naive/bored enough to take a BLOG seriously? I mean, its a freakin BLOG!!! Do any blogs look up facts? or make sense? NO, they don't. calm down and take this for what it was intended to be, a good laugh for all involved

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No, Red Dawn has a completely different style than NOIR. Also, there are a few alliances that statistically don't mean a thing but are important in politics CoJ and TMF for instance. Anyone who writes Schattenman off needs a history lesson :P

Interesting opinions Caleb but I would take a less conclusive style and add a bit more discussion to your blog.

I know they are now, but they may end up sporting some similar principles. Yeah...Schattenman is a piece of work, and an important CN historical figure IMO.

Thanks for the advice.

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