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Be Real: Question 1


Ejayrazz

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Would you turn him in?  

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This isn't meant ot be the easiest question, so you only have two options. No semantic arguing, just answer it.

Theoretically speaking, lets pretend a serial killer is on the loose. We found 130 of his victims under the ocean, butchered in body bags. Each one of his victims are killers and other severely heinous criminals. Most of these criminals were never convicted merely because of legal loop holes (ex: Finding sperm linking the killer to the victim, but improperly seized, thus the case dismissed).

Now, theoretically lets pretend this serial killer goes around killing these heinous killers and he is never wrong - meaning exactly just that, his victims are indeed definitive killers the law itself is unable to handle and he stresses the art of unreasonable doubt before choosing his victim.

He has never taken the life of an innocent nor will he ever, so in essence, he will never theoretically become a problem with the innocent. Imagine Dexter or Boondock Saints, in theory.

Lets pretend this is all 100%. You found this person and discovered his actions. Would you turn him in to the authorities or let him take out the garbage?

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I think with my avatar and sig you can tell where I stand. But, you would need to have seen King of New York(If you haven't seen then see it. One of the greatest movies ever)

"I never killed anyone that didn't deserve it"-Frank White

So no, I would not turn him in, and I'd probably help them anyway I can.

btw, another good lit piece(If you consider movies lit, then it's another) is "And Then there was none" by Agatha Christie

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People need to ask themselves:

Is killing someone acceptable if it is saving an innocent's life?

We have people in the military killing people over stupid wars, aren't they just as guilty as someone killing heinous criminals?

I would be able to sleep soundly at night knowing someone is eliminating evil.

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Sounds like you're trying to paint an allegory for capital punishment. To be quite honest, from a pseudo-Utilitarian's perspective, this man is a hero and should be given free reign to kill whatever serial killer he wishes.

And even if you don't subscribe to such views? How is this man any different from a law enforcement officer or whatever sanctioned agent you wish to offer as society approved? You ask me if I would want 130 serial killers loose, or one. It's not a difficult answer, but if you've padded your philosophy with such convenient things as moral absolutes and ironic misconceptions of freedom, you'll find yourself letting killers walk the streets because someone put the evidence in the wrong bag.

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Obviously the authorities failed to get rid of them, so this guy is doing it for them. Kudos to him for getting things done right and surpassing our pathetic bureaucracy system.

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You live in a lousy state. I'm 99% sure we can open carry without a license. :awesome: But you can't take an already concealed weapon and bring it out. It's seen as your provocation / escalation and means that guy can legally pull his gun if he had one and you couldn't legally react to him. The whole system is pretty messed up, but it's nearly impossible to fire a weapon in self defense unless you kept it hidden, never escalated, didn't start it, and were attacked with someone who either had much much much more strength than you or had a weapon out, and you couldn't run away or call for help. They will sit back and critique every move made in that situation as if you were sitting at home thinking of the best options, even though I doubt that's the case. Only if you made every single best possible choice every step of the way do you get off with no legal action against you, and in some circumstances you can still be sued by the "victim's" family.

The law is so strict that if I walked into a store and saw a man pull out a knife and run at a little old woman and I shot him, I would probably go to prison for murder if she had been the first one to begin yelling, or if she started the fight. Because, once again, you can't start or escalate it.

In fact, I bet we're more conservative than many other countries when it comes to self defense...

[No, I don't carry or have my permit, nor am I an attorney, I just know the law on it.]

Read this Penkala

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I'd probably turn him in, but it would probably depend on the circumstances. I mean, imagine if you were the friend or family of the victims of the people he killed. It would make things a tad more complicated.

What would you do, Ejayrazz?

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I voted "no". I wouldn't consider him to be a serial killer, but instead a vigilante for justice.

Some may say "two wrongs don't make a right", but ridding the world of the wicked is never wrong in the first place.

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People need to ask themselves:

Is killing someone acceptable if it is saving an innocent's life?

We have people in the military killing people over stupid wars, aren't they just as guilty as someone killing heinous criminals?

I would be able to sleep soundly at night knowing someone is eliminating evil.

Murder is never acceptable, however killing can be, and sometimes is. The term "murder" was never intended to apply to killing in general, nor was "killing" intended to be always considered "murder". The difference is in the intent of the killer.

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Definitely wouldn't. In fact, I'd be okay with it even if he were significantly less discriminating - I suppose my threshold for "having it coming" is pretty low.

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I'd turn him in. Unsanctioned killing is dangerous and doesn't have its place in a civilized society. That said, I can totally see the justification for condoning such acts or in actually carrying them out oneself. If my wife or family was killed than to hell with the authorities, I'm on it.

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