The Goon Experience

Good to hear.

very good, now we can all sleep easily..

Glad to hear you got a forum backup before this happened.

goonbase is gone. You can thank your amazing leadership in the Pilot and CoPilot positions. Short version is I'm not going to spend my free time listening to cheap shots taken at my wife and getting accused of trying to stage a coup for not getting things done in a browser game fast enough for them. Hasta.

Forum admins (especially those with root access) don't get the "right" to kill a forum simply because they are pissed off enough to quit. First rule of forum administration: "do not harm" (rule 1a - if you broke it, fix it ASAP, anything else just took a backseat). So I will not excuse salithus' behavior in that regard.

However, clearly there is more to story than someone maybe plotting a coup. Perhaps one day we'll hear it.

FYI for those who never played Lunar Wars: GOONS leadership there, particularly in Round 2, changed hands pretty regularly, but I don't recall any coups, at least none that were made public. So in light of that, the IRC snippet above doesn't sound all that damning to me, since presumably there would be conversations between government members regarding government reorganization and changes of leadership on a routine basis.

But hey, salithus got at least one thing right...it is just a browser-based game. Perspective FTW.

You trusted him enough to put him in charge of your military

I remember Salithus from Lunar Wars and from what I remember you are better of without him

I always confused you two up.

*Mr. O squats down, adjusting his explorer hat and preparing the specimen cup, speaking ever so softly into the microphone*

"Ah, yes, the ever elusive, and quite rare, GOON tear. This marvelous find is really quite the highlight of our trip here. They say it can only be harvested from GOONs who have consumed over 100,000 regular tears, a pure concentrated extraction. One drop is 1000x sweeter than moonsugar. One taste will make a strong man capable of throwing a bus, and a weak man, on a single taste, crap his spine straight into his trousers. Careful now, even a sniff will cause a woman to shred her clothes in a demonic lustfest, and it'll turn children into wild fruitbeasts of the night. Yes, yes, the museum will appreciate this find."

*Mr. O screws the lid back onto the specimen cup, beckons the cameraman to follow him, and makes his way deeper into the jungles of CN*.

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Jokes aside, that sucks. Thankfully you had the keen presence of mind to prepare for such treachery. Good luck moving forward.

Haha....well done, Kzopp.

Mr. Damsky, there was no reason not to trust him. For that reason, I traded my Strategos position for his Secretariat position. I've taken Strategos back again.

Hmmm... well, it seems you guys were in the right losing him.

What was the deal with you guys allegedly "taking potshots at his wife" about, though?

I wouldn't take Salithus for his word on that, Uralica. Usually when someone is beaten they will look for any excuse that they can find, fabricate or exaggerate to attempt to help them dig themselves out of the tight spot they fell into. (i.e: TBB)

However I don't know anymore than you and the rest of the bystanders on the OWF so I can't be certain. But I can be sure of it.

I wouldn't take Salithus for his word on that, Uralica. Usually when someone is beaten they will look for any excuse that they can find, fabricate or exaggerate to attempt to help them dig themselves out of the tight spot they fell into. (i.e: TBB)

However I don't know anymore than you and the rest of the bystanders on the OWF so I can't be certain. But I can be sure of it.

And then again.. maybe not.

The more you guys try to cover it up and say, "don't look into it, it's not a big deal" the more it looks like you folks are hiding something. I'll reserve judgment, though I'm fairly certain mine doesn't mean anything, but I ask everyone else to wait until more of the story is divulged. So quickly we've written things off as certainties only for it to come back and bite us.

If you want to don your tinfoil hats, go ahead. I'm pretty sure GOONS doesn't care. The fact that they've even bothered to waste their time explaining their internal politics to outsiders at all, even the most minute details, is nothing short of courtesy. They didn't have to say anything at all, but in an attempt to do so I suppose they felt they could curb some of these hair-brained accusations like what you hint at in your comment, even if they couldn't prevent it.

If speculating is what you enjoy doing the most, then perhaps you ought to speculate how much less stupid you would sound if you never said anything at all.

I wouldn't take Salithus for his word on that, Uralica. Usually when someone is beaten they will look for any excuse that they can find, fabricate or exaggerate to attempt to help them dig themselves out of the tight spot they fell into. (i.e: TBB)

However I don't know anymore than you and the rest of the bystanders on the OWF so I can't be certain. But I can be sure of it.

Actually, GOONS did touch on this somewhat on OWF in response to my post there. I have to wonder if sal will try posting a rebuttal to that in the thread. Either way, it really wasn't much of an excuse for taking the forum down. But, this is CN. I've seen forums DDoSed for less. (Ionizer did this to Macedonia because they cut him loose after he attacked my then-alliance mate Giant Jellyfish in CCC after I had just started playing. Imagine housing two alliances on one forum )

And please, call me Jarkko.

If you want to don your tinfoil hats, go ahead. I'm pretty sure GOONS doesn't care. The fact that they've even bothered to waste their time explaining their internal politics to outsiders at all, even the most minute details, is nothing short of courtesy. They didn't have to say anything at all, but in an attempt to do so I suppose they felt they could curb some of these hair-brained accusations like what you hint at in your comment, even if they couldn't prevent it.

If speculating is what you enjoy doing the most, then perhaps you ought to speculate how much less stupid you would sound if you never said anything at all.

So if you feel they didn't have to say anything and it was done out of courtesy then why divulge the information? There had to be some motive behind it. To say we have to take everything at face value from people who associate with people such as yourself is laughable. How do we know what was said to salithus? We don't, we only have one side of the story to base this off of. If it really is hurt feelings than okay, but perhaps there's something more to it. It's not like this story is going to come from GOONS nor do I expect it to. So I'll sit and wait to see if salithus actually speaks up.

Remember the incident with the Earth Directorate and how quickly everyone wrote them off? There are two sides to every story. Just because you close your mind so quickly to one story doesn't mean it doesn't contain truth behind it.

So if you feel they didn't have to say anything and it was done out of courtesy then why divulge the information? There had to be some motive behind it. To say we have to take everything at face value from people who associate with people such as yourself is laughable. How do we know what was said to salithus? We don't, we only have one side of the story to base this off of. If it really is hurt feelings than okay, but perhaps there's something more to it. It's not like this story is going to come from GOONS nor do I expect it to. So I'll sit and wait to see if salithus actually speaks up.

Remember the incident with the Earth Directorate and how quickly everyone wrote them off? There are two sides to every story. Just because you close your mind so quickly to one story doesn't mean it doesn't contain truth behind it.

We explained the situation so some halfwit wouldn't arbitrarily happen upon cn.goonbase.com, see Salithus' lovely message, and come back here and go OH MY GOD GOONS HAVE BEEN HIT BECAUSE THEY INSULTED SOMEONE HAHA THEY SUCK SO BAD. Instead, we did the right thing (or rather, our higher ups did; I, myself, had nothing to do with it).

We moved to a different forum site. We uploaded our back up data. And then we came here to head off any speculations by explaining the situation to the best of our ability.

Even if we had insulted Salithus (which we did not, I'm just saying this hypothetically), is it likely we would come here and say "We were jerks and got what was coming to us"? No, of course not, who would EVER do that? That'd just be weirdly honest. But truthfully, do you honestly believe we could possibly piss someone off (A higher up no less, and even someone whom the majority of us didn't know he HAD a wife, let alone what her size was, etc.) so much that shutting down our entire forums permanately ("taking their ball and going home) could even KIND OF be seen as a mature solution? Because, sir, if you honestly do think that, then you are the proud owner of a VERY stretched definition of equal retaliation.

We explained the situation so some halfwit wouldn't arbitrarily happen upon cn.goonbase.com, see Salithus' lovely message, and come back here and go OH MY GOD GOONS HAVE BEEN HIT BECAUSE THEY INSULTED SOMEONE HAHA THEY SUCK SO BAD. Instead, we did the right thing (or rather, our higher ups did; I, myself, had nothing to do with it).

We moved to a different forum site. We uploaded our back up data. And then we came here to head off any speculations by explaining the situation to the best of our ability.

Even if we had insulted Salithus (which we did not, I'm just saying this hypothetically), is it likely we would come here and say "We were jerks and got what was coming to us"? No, of course not, who would EVER do that? That'd just be weirdly honest. But truthfully, do you honestly believe we could possibly piss someone off (A higher up no less, and even someone whom the majority of us didn't know he HAD a wife, let alone what her size was, etc.) so much that shutting down our entire forums permanately ("taking their ball and going home) could even KIND OF be seen as a mature solution? Because, sir, if you honestly do think that, then you are the proud owner of a VERY stretched definition of equal retaliation.

I never once justified his actions, did I? I said maybe you did say something about his wife that really upset him. You admitted yourself you're not privy to any information so how do you know? How do I know? We don't. I'm saying maybe there is something not being said or is being hid or has yet to be told or said. That's all. Of course you and Emperor Marx got so upset over it you couldn't even prepare a coherent argument.

Btw I like your avatar

I have been coherent, you have been grabbing straws. Wake up.

I have been coherent, you have been grabbing straws. Wake up.

This.

Also, thank you for the compliment of my avatar.

I have been coherent, you have been grabbing straws. Wake up.

The no u.. I missed thee

I can confirm that this is all true.

I can confirm that this is all true.

Broazt has spoken.

Hey guys, y'know I'm just sayin, but none of us were actually there for the moon landing, so how do we know that's actually what happened? I mean, that's what we were told happened, but there might be more to that story. It obviously won't come from NASA though.

Hey guys, y'know I'm just sayin, but none of us were actually there for the moon landing, so how do we know that's actually what happened? I mean, that's what we were told happened, but there might be more to that story. It obviously won't come from NASA though.

For the record, I don't totally believe in the moon landing . I'm not a conspiracy theorist, mind - that extra crap like THEY KILLED PEOPLE TO SHUT THEM UP is just retarded. I just think it would've been a major problem if we HADN'T landed on the moon by 1970; cold war could've gone much differently.

That said, I also don't really care either way, so I don't waste time pursuing this knowledge lol.

I love everything about this thread