Mine is better than yours

Military wise it's very very close I think.

No, NSO decided to become TOP's little tagalong. Well, rather IRON's, who is TOP's me-too.

That's a tough argument to make when we were at war before TOP or IRON. Also, with our allies being aggressively gangbanged, it's just an easy choice to make to defend them. Perhaps you'll find that out some day, but I doubt it. You're cowardly enough you'll never fight without numbers behind you (See: NSO vs. CSN 1v1)

Also, I love how anyone on the winning side against your beloved NSO "knew how to pick the cowardly side", and yet in the sides of the wars NSO was in they were not cowardly while still being victorious.

The only real instance of bandwagoning you can say NSO participated in is the Karma War. NSO butchered RAD on its own, and we didn't even call in the help squad for that, like you doubtlessly would have, seeing as you needed to call in all the help you could get in the Cluster$%&@ War

That's a tough argument to make when we were at war before TOP or IRON. Also, with our allies being aggressively gangbanged, it's just an easy choice to make to defend them. Perhaps you'll find that out some day, but I doubt it. You're cowardly enough you'll never fight without numbers behind you (See: NSO vs. CSN 1v1)

False. You were the ones trying to set constraints and terms and exceptions. You threatened to attack us, not duel us. You later changed what you offered us. But you never followed through on your threat.

The only real instance of bandwagoning you can say NSO participated in is the Karma War. NSO butchered RAD on its own, and we didn't even call in the help squad for that, like you doubtlessly would have, seeing as you needed to call in all the help you could get in the Cluster$%&@ War

You hardly 'butchered' an alliance 1/4 your size, you cowards.

The only real instance of bandwagoning you can say NSO participated in is the Karma War. NSO butchered RAD on its own, and we didn't even call in the help squad for that, like you doubtlessly would have, seeing as you needed to call in all the help you could get in the Cluster$%&@ War

We didn't need to call in that many people, but that many people wanted a piece of you. You're using terrible arguments here. By your standards every alliance on the victorious side of a war ever is cowardly because they outnumbered their opponents.

That's a tough argument to make when we were at war before TOP or IRON. Also, with our allies being aggressively gangbanged, it's just an easy choice to make to defend them. Perhaps you'll find that out some day, but I doubt it. You're cowardly enough you'll never fight without numbers behind you (See: NSO vs. CSN 1v1)

Read up on your history. We defend our friends and allies regardless of the numbers. It's hardly our fault that our friends have been winning a lot lately.

And it was you guys who wanted to set stupid restrictions like "no nukes, no navy". What the hell is the point of playing if you don't get to use the big boy toys?

NSO actually has the stones to "do something about it", they back their allies when inconvenient, and seem to share similar views on reps as my own alliance.

iFOK is a satellite alliance.

Easy.

NSO actually has the stones to "do something about it", they back their allies when inconvenient, and seem to share similar views on reps as my own alliance.

iFOK is a satellite alliance.

Easy.

iFOK ticks the same boxes as you mentioned for NSO. And we're as much a satellite alliance as NpO is from NPO.

False. You were the ones trying to set constraints and terms and exceptions. You threatened to attack us, not duel us. You later changed what you offered us. But you never followed through on your threat.

You hardly 'butchered' an alliance 1/4 your size, you cowards.

We didn't need to call in that many people, but that many people wanted a piece of you. You're using terrible arguments here. By your standards every alliance on the victorious side of a war ever is cowardly because they outnumbered their opponents.

Are these arguements really in the same post? Its like He attacking the belief he had just backed up in every section. The fatc remains that it took 5 alliances to pound on us when you guys almost crumbled just by the GDA entering the war. Which isnt exactly noted for its military capabilities.

Voted NSO.

iFOK ticks the same boxes as you mentioned for NSO. And we're as much a satellite alliance as NpO is from NPO.

It pretty much was.....when it started at least.

This poll is very silly.

NSO, ifok are just a bit that fell off fok. They didnt even bother with a name of their own.

Yes, because using 'New' and 'Order' in your alliance name makes it the height of originality.

NSO by far. You take away FOK's protection and iFOK would be worth nothing.

NSO by far. You take away FOK's protection and iFOK would be worth nothing.

NSO wouldn't win a war against iFOK alone, it would be a draw at best. iFOK is a very well organised alliance with a quality member-base who performed very well this war, (they fought a ton of alliances and prevailed).

NSO wouldn't win a war against iFOK alone, it would be a draw at best. iFOK is a very well organised alliance with a quality member-base who performed very well this war, (they fought a ton of alliances and prevailed).

They prevailed solely because the NpO lacked a backbone. My opinion wasn't based on their ability to fight (I'm sure they can handle themselves at their size) but because they'll always run to FOK if anything doesn't go their way. Why do you think they could start all that crap on Purple and get away with it? It isn't because they are intimidating in any shape or fashion. It's because their big brother was standing behind them the entire time letting it happen.

IFOK... NO matter what

They prevailed solely because the NpO lacked a backbone. My opinion wasn't based on their ability to fight (I'm sure they can handle themselves at their size) but because they'll always run to FOK if anything doesn't go their way. Why do you think they could start all that crap on Purple and get away with it? It isn't because they are intimidating in any shape or fashion. It's because their big brother was standing behind them the entire time letting it happen.

Please tell me when we have ran to FOK for help?

iFOK of course

Please tell me when we have ran to FOK for help?

Useless, you'll just try denying it....because lets face it, no alliance likes being called out for being lapdogs.

Useless, you'll just try denying it....because lets face it, no alliance likes being called out for being lapdogs.

Usually, you show evidence so that the accused party cannot deny it. And yet none has been shown but the likes of NSO continues to spot their drivel.

Interesting comments so far. And the votes are closer than I expected them to be. This is going to be a better poll than I expected arexes. Oh, and iFOK for obvious reasons.

Please tell me when we have ran to FOK for help?

Last time I recall it was us asking for your help against Polar if NSO jumped on us.

Usually, you show evidence so that the accused party cannot deny it. And yet none has been shown but the likes of NSO continues to spot their drivel.

Well we should be able to spot our own posts. Sometimes the truth we speak is just too much for the world though so we need to help others spot it.

Are these arguements really in the same post? Its like He attacking the belief he had just backed up in every section. The fatc remains that it took 5 alliances to pound on us when you guys almost crumbled just by the GDA entering the war. Which isnt exactly noted for its military capabilities.

You've got some good jokes, man. I won't get into the "IT TOOK FIVE ALLIANCESSSSSSSSSSS" argument. You clearly don't know anything about wars. That's alright. Not everyone does.

And you reinforce that with your second "point". How, pray tell, did we nearly crumble when GDA (and NADC, and UBD, and a few others) enter the war? We didn't crumble at all. I'm not sure where you're getting that from. If you mean our NS loss (which was absent when we fought you, by the way. You guys didn't even scratch us), would you please look up nukes and how they work?

This really isn't tough. You're just making yourself look inept. Don't make me go get your side's military planner to back up both of my statements I just made.

Well we should be able to spot our own posts. Sometimes the truth we speak is just too much for the world though so we need to help others spot it.

You just attacked a typo rather than provide a time when iFOK went begging for help. How NSO-like of you. Truth is your enemy, Sith.

If you mean our NS loss (which was absent when we fought you, by the way. You guys didn't even scratch us), would you please look up nukes and how they work

Obviously, citing NS loss as a cause for celebration is OK for Penkala and his fellow truth-benders, but if we celebrate about not losing that much its obviously not ok.....

Not hypocritical at all penkala, as always.

Obviously, citing NS loss as a cause for celebration is OK for Penkala and his fellow truth-benders, but if we celebrate about not losing that much its obviously not ok.....

Not hypocritical at all penkala, as always.

No... making you surrender to us is a cause for celebration. Outmaneuvering you politically... that, too, is a cause for celebration. Celebrating 10-15% of an alliance's NS taken off due to nukes? That's... a stretch.