Pacific Star 2 OOC

[Bacharth]

All OOC for the war here.

[Zoot Zoot]

OOC

Mergerberger, sorry im calling you on your attack on the NR for godmodding pal.
500 long range missiles?
youve no IG cruise missiles, and youve only 25 nuclear warheads.

Edited April 14, 2010 by Zoot Zoot

[Mergerberger II]

[quote name='Zoot Zoot' date='13 April 2010 - 10:23 PM' timestamp='1271211815' post='2259545']
OOC

Mergerberger, sorry im calling you on your attack on the NR for godmodding pal.
500 long range missiles?
youve no IG cruise missiles, and youve only 25 nuclear warheads.
[/quote]

Uh, it's not too difficult to make a few medium-range ballistic missiles go 1,600 miles. And cruise missiles are chemical/biological weapons, as well as non-nuclear ICBM's.

Edited April 14, 2010 by Mergerberger II

[Zoot Zoot]

your missing my point.
you have no ingame cruise missiles, you dont even have 500 nuclear missiles
So you cant fire 500 missiles mate =/

[Executive Minister]

[quote name='Mergerberger II' date='13 April 2010 - 10:45 PM' timestamp='1271213128' post='2259577']
Uh, it's not too difficult to make a few medium-range ballistic missiles go 1,600 miles. And cruise missiles are chemical/biological weapons, as well as non-nuclear ICBM's.
[/quote]

Crud. Its too bad the CM thread didn't make up a rule or define a policy on this... Merger is perfectly in the right. The range of what an IG CM covers in IC is blurry and this falls under the 'common sense' category.

Personally, when I launched my SL-RM mod 07's at Sargun, they were essentially kh-55s that have a 1600 nmi range, and I bought IG CM's for those attacks on his port and carrier.

[Zoot Zoot]

your still not getting it.
he has 0 missiles ingame apart from his 25 nukes.

so he CANNOT have 500 missiles firing around the world in different directions at the northern republic.

[Silhouette]

I'd say firing 500 missiles in one go is a little excessive, but he can still have cruise missiles in RP, even if he has none IG.

[Mergerberger II]

I'd agree it is somewhat excessive, and therefore it is doubtful I will use any more missiles of that nature for the remainder of the war. However, your point carries little legal weight in terms of the rules of CNRP.

[Zoot Zoot]

As some smartarse once told me, they arnt rules, theyre guidelines
After glancing over them, i cant see anything supporting the point I made so ill drop it, but 500 missiles is very OTT.

[Executive Minister]

Zoot, an IG Cruisemissile does not === an IC cruisemissile.


IC cruisemissiles are common sense.

[Silhouette]

Mine? I wasn't intending it to carry any weight, just pointing out that most discussion thus far has been about keeping numbers reasonable. As long as you use very few throughout the war from now on, I have no reason to complain. I'm a very reasonable person.

[Subtleknifewielder]

IG cruise missiles equate to special weapons, not RP cruise missiles.

And the range has usually been whatever the size of your SoI is IG, from what I can recall.

[Executive Minister]

[quote name='Subtleknifewielder' date='13 April 2010 - 11:47 PM' timestamp='1271216860' post='2259664']
IG cruise missiles equate to special weapons, not RP cruise missiles.

And the range has usually been [b]whatever the size of your SoI is IG[/b], from what I can recall.


[/quote]

That's a first

[Silhouette]

^ that has never been a rule afaik. I've always used the real life specs, and damn anyone who says different.

[Subtleknifewielder]

I never said it was a rule...it was one of those unwritten rules a while back.

[Lynneth]

[quote name='Subtleknifewielder' date='14 April 2010 - 06:10 AM' timestamp='1271218219' post='2259693']
I never said it was a rule...it was one of those unwritten rules a while back.
[/quote]
I for one never, ever heard of that one.

[Subtleknifewielder]

[quote name='Lynneth' date='13 April 2010 - 10:32 PM' timestamp='1271223122' post='2259758']
I for one never, ever heard of that one.
[/quote]
That's because the last time it was mentioned was before you joined us.

[Lavo]

[quote name='Lynneth' date='14 April 2010 - 01:32 AM' timestamp='1271223122' post='2259758']
I for one never, ever heard of that one.
[/quote]
I have never heard of this rule either, and I've been here far longer than you Subtle.

[Kevin Kingswell]

Zoot if you disagree with those five hundred missiles being fired at you then do the obvious thing and fire back five hundred of your own cruise missiles. Mutually assured destruction at its finest.

Edited April 14, 2010 by Kevin Kingswell

[Centurius]

[quote name='Lavo_2' date='14 April 2010 - 02:20 PM' timestamp='1271247632' post='2260014']
I have never heard of this rule either, and I've been here far longer than you Subtle.
[/quote]

Neither have I and I've been here longer too.

[Acca Dacca]

I heard of it, just was used I believe once.

Shmeh

[JEDCJT]

[quote name='Subtleknifewielder' date='13 April 2010 - 07:47 PM' timestamp='1271216860' post='2259664']
IG cruise missiles equate to special weapons, not RP cruise missiles.

And the range has usually been whatever the size of your SoI is IG, from what I can recall.
[/quote]

Are you sure you didnt make that up, Subtle? lol, jk

[Lynneth]

Taken from the other post because durhur, wrong topic.

[quote name='Mergerberger II' date='14 April 2010 - 04:11 AM' timestamp='1271211070' post='2259513']
[size="2"]OOC: If the initial computer attack fails, the rest of the post never happened. However, cyber-attacks would continue until they broke through.[/size][size="2"]

IC:
Hackers worked to infiltrate computer and defensive systems in the Northern Republic, to disable communications with satellites as well as detection systems capable of seeing missiles. [/size]
Long-range missiles stationed mostly in Limburg launched at 0200 that morning. 100 of them. [b]Each carried the equivalent of 45 tons of TNT. [/b]Each was aimed at a different military target in the Northern Republic. Seven were aimed at the chief military harbor. Each bomb was capable of producing a small mushroom cloud, with a blast radius of just over 300m. One hour later, 100 more hit the same military targets, and two hours after that 100 more would hit different military targets. [b]All missiles took a unique path to their targets, so that their origin was indiscernible.[/b]
[/quote]
First bold:
The MOAB used by the USA has a yield of 11 tons of TNT. The FOAB used by the Russians has a yield of 44 tons of TNT.
This qualifies as powerful enough - in my opinion, Californian and iamthey can overrule me on that - so that it counts as part of the Cruise Missiles, much like biological and chemical weapons.
It would thus be that you don't have 500 of these, but only 50 maximum.

Second bold:
Missiles or Cruise missiles going 1,600 nm far can't really change their course, mostly due to their speeds. I believe it would be very possible to find out where they're coming from, taking the flight paths into consideration, unless you can give me proof that a CM going at mach 5+ can change its course as you described.

[Fizzydog]

Can I get a full list of nations fighting Tahoe and defending Tahoe? Thanks.

[Kevin Kingswell]

[quote name='Fizzydog' date='14 April 2010 - 07:29 PM' timestamp='1271291323' post='2260655']
Can I get a full list of nations fighting Tahoe and defending Tahoe? Thanks.
[/quote]

Try here http://forums.cybernations.net/index.php?showtopic=84193

And thank Acca Dacca for it.