The Zigur Posted July 27, 2014 Report Share Posted July 27, 2014 Chance of people who wouldn't go through the pain of an insurgency if they get rolled taking up the offer: really low Chance of annoying pests who just want to mess with people by spawning stupid BS warriors and homicidal rhinos in the middle of other people's nations taking up the offer: pretty high Overall: Fixes nothing, causes headaches, not worth it. It is an effective way to deal with the massive inactive landmasses. The inactive player doesn't have to roleplay crushing the nationalist uprising if he doesn't want to, at which point the nation becomes independent. Suddenly, room for new players to roleplay where they want to. Problem solved. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KaiserMelech Mikhail Posted July 27, 2014 Report Share Posted July 27, 2014 It is an effective way to deal with the massive inactive landmasses. The inactive player doesn't have to roleplay crushing the nationalist uprising if he doesn't want to, at which point the nation becomes independent. Suddenly, room for new players to roleplay where they want to. Problem solved.The problem is that you're RPing another player's citizens, which is a major no-no. Nationalist insurgencies are a good idea that can certainly be used, but you need to get that player's permission first. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Zigur Posted July 28, 2014 Report Share Posted July 28, 2014 (edited) The problem is that you're RPing another player's citizens, which is a major no-no. Nationalist insurgencies are a good idea that can certainly be used, but you need to get that player's permission first. I think the idea that players outright own the citizens of their territory, regardless of argument or reason, is what leads to the stagnation and massive territorial claims in the first place. You might find a more dynamic political and military environment if that wasn't the case. Edited July 28, 2014 by Tywin Lannister Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Evangeline Anovilis Posted July 28, 2014 Report Share Posted July 28, 2014 I think the idea that players outright own the citizens of their territory, regardless of argument or reason, is what leads to the stagnation and massive territorial claims in the first place. You might find a more dynamic political and military environment if that wasn't the case. No. We'll find homicidal Rhinos and other stupid antics, which is exactly why RPers own the people coming with the territory. This is a security mechanism and won't be repealed for good reasons. Even less likely than a map reset. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Zigur Posted July 28, 2014 Report Share Posted July 28, 2014 Well, if you don't want to make significant changes, then why complain about the lack of activity? Both CNRP and CNRP2 are basically social clubs for two different cliques of people, it just so happens that CNRP2 is more popular at the moment due to the less competitive IC nature of the roleplay. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mogar Posted July 28, 2014 Report Share Posted July 28, 2014 As much as I hate to agree with you, I will agree that is one of the fundamental differences, Collaborative vs Competitive. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Zigur Posted July 28, 2014 Report Share Posted July 28, 2014 (edited) I think people would be quite inclined to competitive roleplay if CNRP were rebalanced to allow for more dynamic politics and warfare; things like allowing nationalist uprisings and improving the position of players with smaller countries would do that. But, for obvious reasons, the larger more established players don't want to let that happen... so naturally people would rather play in a collaborative environment like CNRP2, even if it is of poorer quality, rather than have the odds so badly stacked against them in a competitive one. Obviously, this works out worst for me, since I am both competitive and small lol. I have done my part in attacking the poorly written rules in CNRP2, and attacking the technology loopholes in CNRP1, but you won't see the two come back together if people don't want to fix those issues. Edited July 28, 2014 by Tywin Lannister Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Evangeline Anovilis Posted July 28, 2014 Report Share Posted July 28, 2014 As much as I hate to agree with you, I will agree that is one of the fundamental differences, Collaborative vs Competitive. I lol'd. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Horo the Wise Wolf Posted July 28, 2014 Report Share Posted July 28, 2014 How about we all just play EUIII and put our CNRP nations in? Problem solved. We'll sort out checksums later. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mogar Posted July 28, 2014 Report Share Posted July 28, 2014 for you melech Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greywall Posted July 28, 2014 Report Share Posted July 28, 2014 How about we all just play EUIII and put our CNRP nations in? Problem solved. We'll sort out checksums later. I no joke would do a eu3 rp Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Zigur Posted July 28, 2014 Report Share Posted July 28, 2014 Is there a free download available? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xoindotnler Posted July 28, 2014 Report Share Posted July 28, 2014 Just buy it to support Paradox. I need Victoria 3. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Zigur Posted July 28, 2014 Report Share Posted July 28, 2014 I am not a bourgeoisie with lots of money to spend though Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xoindotnler Posted July 28, 2014 Report Share Posted July 28, 2014 Skip 1.5 bourgeoisie days of Starbucks and you have the bourgeoisie amount need to bourgeoisie the game bourgeoisie bourgeoisie bourgeoisie. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Evangeline Anovilis Posted July 28, 2014 Report Share Posted July 28, 2014 I warn you though. Hawaii is not a country in the game. You can colonise it though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KaiserMelech Mikhail Posted August 8, 2014 Report Share Posted August 8, 2014 I gots me a nookyular power plant. I can only see this going well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Triyun Posted August 8, 2014 Report Share Posted August 8, 2014 I gots me a nookyular power plant. I can only see this going well. I'll be taking that thanks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Justinian the Mighty Posted August 8, 2014 Report Share Posted August 8, 2014 I'll be taking that thanks. Get you hands off my Russia, you damn, dirty hegemon! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Evangeline Anovilis Posted August 8, 2014 Report Share Posted August 8, 2014 I gots me a nookyular power plant. I can only see this going well. Thank god I'm going to be very far away when Jewnobyl happens. Not like last time, when I had to RP extensive blast damage to my northernmost province, because you got nuked twice. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greywall Posted August 10, 2014 Report Share Posted August 10, 2014 anyone want a rebellion? i'm thinking of leaving cnrp or rerolling into a rebel faction if anyone wants one to fight a war to liven things up around here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Evangeline Anovilis Posted August 10, 2014 Report Share Posted August 10, 2014 Melech is looking for people... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Euphaia Posted August 14, 2014 Report Share Posted August 14, 2014 Just a heads up, I will be gone tomorrow, Saturday, and possibly Sunday, and won't have access to the internet during at least the first two days. I will be attending my sister's wedding and reception. I should be back either Sunday or Monday. Thanks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Evangeline Anovilis Posted August 15, 2014 Report Share Posted August 15, 2014 Soon it will be the 15th again... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PresidentDavid Posted October 27, 2014 Report Share Posted October 27, 2014 So is CNRP still open to new members? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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