Dajobo Posted August 5, 2015 Report Share Posted August 5, 2015 Being retired is both fascinating and frustrating. Once you go out to pasture people are more comfortable to share info with you. At the same time, you have the info and have lost the ability to really use it! Without ratting people out though or betraying the confidence of those who have told me stuff, planet Bob is getting seriously interesting. Right now there are more alliances playing the ‘long’ game than I have ever seen before! Ironic given the state of decline our population is in and the pessimism many of us feel for the future. Far and wide there is open and honest acceptance that the ruling coalition is too big, and cant last long term. Within that coalition there are multiple factions. Pacifica heads the list as ruling the largest of these and as the central lynch pin. No one in the hegemony can do anything without Pacifica signing off on it. I’ve seen people suggest that Pacifica is lining up DBDC for later. It’s a load of bunkem. Pacifica has no reason or desire to tangle with DBDC. DBDC are like the rest of the alliances in the blob who can’t move without NPO’s ok and while individually huge, collectively are far too small to be a danger. The other factions I won’t name, I’m not going to be accused of trying to drive a wedge. They exist though and they are the reason this world is getting interesting. Several of them have talked to me and they are all in the same boat, trying to tow the line now while preparing for the future. The common belief is straight forward, Polar and/or MI6 can be hit once, maybe even twice to stave off the collapse and buy time but then the coalition splits. This is where it gets interesting. People are trying to find a place where they can support a war and play their part while being in a position post war to buddy up with some of the alliances they will be hitting. How do you attack the people you will need and not pay for it later? It’s frustrating for me waiting for the first phase of this to be over. I’m guessing it’s equally as frustrating for MI6. It’s also fascinating talking to alliances and seeing who is laying the ground work for post war already. They tell me upfront they can’t rock the boat right now and they are right, being the one to split the coalition now would be a violent and bloody death! For now I say “Carry on”. Eatemup will get to play ‘King Maker’ soon and I’m enjoying the ride! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Wally Posted August 5, 2015 Report Share Posted August 5, 2015 Don't you love retirement mate! I quite enjoy shaking my finger at all these kids running up and down my street with their rap music and their baseball caps on BACKWARDS ..... and their Tshirts with their offffffffsensive slogans.... pfft kids Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Auctor Posted August 5, 2015 Report Share Posted August 5, 2015 Being a kingmaker ain't what it used to be. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NeCoHo Posted August 5, 2015 Report Share Posted August 5, 2015 Can't sleep. NPO will roll me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Pansy Posted August 5, 2015 Report Share Posted August 5, 2015 (edited) The cyclic nature of this game of politics means that yes, one day soon, Polar will be in a position to be King Maker, if they take said opportunity, and how long it lasts is another thing. I've played the phases before via numerous alliances, and it is fascinating as you say. This game is full of people, wanting you to listen to their grand master plan on how to win the next 1-3 wars, I wouldn't say you have to be retired for them to do it though. Edited August 5, 2015 by The Pansy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SirWilliam Posted August 5, 2015 Report Share Posted August 5, 2015 Nothing any of those alliances is doing is really all that interesting. But we're not really playing the same game. [OOC]I don't mean game in the sense of CN as a game, I mean that in a strictly IC sense.[/OOC] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prodigal Moon Posted August 5, 2015 Report Share Posted August 5, 2015 I'd rather stay irrelevant than ally with the people in the current hegemony :( Bring on the rolls! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Zigur Posted August 5, 2015 Report Share Posted August 5, 2015 Nice read Dajobo, all I can say is join the dark side, we have cookies :p Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YOLO SWAG Posted August 5, 2015 Report Share Posted August 5, 2015 (edited) Nice read Dajobo, all I can say is join the dark side, we have cookies :P This is far more interesting than the crap you're talking about dago. Write something about tywin. Edited August 5, 2015 by YOLO SWAG Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MitchellBade Posted August 5, 2015 Report Share Posted August 5, 2015 Join MI6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fox Fire Posted August 5, 2015 Report Share Posted August 5, 2015 Nice read Dajobo, all I can say is join the dark side, we have cookies :P It seems like only yesterday that you were ranting about how awful your new allies are. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Master Hakai Posted August 5, 2015 Report Share Posted August 5, 2015 It's like nerdy king of the hill Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Zigur Posted August 5, 2015 Report Share Posted August 5, 2015 It seems like only yesterday that you were ranting about how awful your new allies are. Doomsphere is our allies, Doomsphere has always been our allies. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fox Fire Posted August 5, 2015 Report Share Posted August 5, 2015 Doomsphere is our allies, Doomsphere has always been our allies. Well then I think you should be aware that somebody has been imitating you and boasting up how Francoist Polaris is the past year or so. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe Stupid Posted August 5, 2015 Report Share Posted August 5, 2015 Doomsphere is our allies, Doomsphere has always been our allies. Keeping this one forever, and ever. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Azaghul Posted August 5, 2015 Report Share Posted August 5, 2015 Speaking as someone who is not in on the back channel stuff at all, I'm skeptical that Polar and MI6 are big enough that rolling them would even count as a "global war" and reset the cycle, so to speak. Maybe they have enough people that would be on their side for that to happen, but I'm skeptical. I also don't think they will necessarily be kingmakers either after. Doesn't mean they won't be a player that people will try to bring to their side, but it doesn't guarantee that they will be big enough to tip the scales. We will see I guess. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mogar Posted August 5, 2015 Report Share Posted August 5, 2015 I'm fine with another rolling of Polar, see how well it works out for you come the war after that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saladjoe Posted August 5, 2015 Report Share Posted August 5, 2015 Doomsphere is our allies, Doomsphere has always been our allies. You can't make this stuff up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frawley Posted August 5, 2015 Report Share Posted August 5, 2015 Oh Dajobo, please try harder. You can't say stuff like this: The other factions I won’t name, I’m not going to be accused of trying to drive a wedge.But in the same post go on to invent some factions, a myth of NPO dominance, and try to draw lines where they don't exist.Eatemup will get to play ‘King Maker’ soon and I’m enjoying the ride!I very much doubt this.In short:Can't sleep. NPO will roll me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dajobo Posted August 5, 2015 Author Report Share Posted August 5, 2015 (edited) Oh Dajobo, please try harder. You can't say stuff like this: But in the same post go on to invent some factions, a myth of NPO dominance, and try to draw lines where they don't exist. I love a good bite from a clueless person :D The factions in the hegemony who do NOT like you are very real. You wish they didn't exist and you hate that I wont name them, but it doesn't change it. It's better for them if you don't believe me. NPO dominance is something you should be proud of, not denying. It is a direct result of hard work by your leaders and diplomats. No where have I said it's a bad thing or that evil NPO is out to roll anybody. What you need understand Stanger is I know very well what it takes to fit into a coalition and the discipline required. I also know how the effort required to keep alternate desires in check by members of any coalition increases over time. Ally A hates ally B and they put that aside for a while for the greater good. A while though does not equal forever and then the fun starts. Finally Stanger, don't be too fast assuming Polaris will be on the opposite side as yourselves when it all happens. I know who I talk to and who we'll likely end up friends with, but not for one minute do I pretend to know where they'll all fall in the big picture.. Edited August 5, 2015 by Dajobo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frawley Posted August 5, 2015 Report Share Posted August 5, 2015 (edited) Firstly, its probably easier you refer to me as Frawley. [ooc]I'll pay for the name change at some point.[/ooc]Time will tell on your statements, but I'd be very surprised if any of them came through in the foreseeable future. I think you have been spending too much time on CNTel.I made no assumptions on NPO-NpO relations, and you would be aware of my full opinion from our delightful embassy. Edited August 5, 2015 by Stanger Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dajobo Posted August 5, 2015 Author Report Share Posted August 5, 2015 Firstly, its probably easier you refer to me as Frawley. [ooc]I'll pay for the name change at some point.[/ooc]I'll take back the clueless then :DThe rest stands though! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geerland Posted August 5, 2015 Report Share Posted August 5, 2015 Can't sleep. NPO will roll me. italia will lick me Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
berbers Posted August 5, 2015 Report Share Posted August 5, 2015 Doomsphere is our allies, Doomsphere has always been our allies. Welp, this is the first Tywin post I wish there was a like button for, nice reference :P Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daimos Posted August 5, 2015 Report Share Posted August 5, 2015 I like this kind of thread. Political intrigue is good for the game. Lacking something though. Needs a juicy log dump to propel this topic to 10 pages. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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