IYIyTh Posted November 8, 2013 Report Share Posted November 8, 2013 I don't blame NPO for it, personally. Nor do I. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crymson Posted November 8, 2013 Report Share Posted November 8, 2013 (edited) double Edited November 8, 2013 by Crymson Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bcortell Posted November 8, 2013 Report Share Posted November 8, 2013 I understand people have a hard on for NPO though I fail to see how one could spin to make NPO a villian here. Vall only wars NPO. So it effects only the two parties. NPO is outgunned. Any relief would be nice. That a deal could have been made would be only smart for NPO. Alas it didnt happen. It would be good for coalition in which NPO finds it self as that would mean more strenght of NPO on other alliances which fight other coalition members and it. Also, in regards to the previous dig on us--we had allies on the other side last war. Not the case this war. But please do spread in game propaganda nonsense even in this ooc venue. I actually meant my imaginary quote for Val, not you guys. Val, I could see offering something like that. You guys? Not so much. And, you are correct, it helps you guys a lot more than it does the other side. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crymson Posted November 8, 2013 Report Share Posted November 8, 2013 (edited) I understand people have a hard on for NPO though I fail to see how one could spin to make NPO a villian here. Vall only wars NPO. So it effects only the two parties. NPO is outgunned. Any relief would be nice. That a deal could have been made would be only smart for NPO. You're half right: on your side, it only affected NPO. On Val's side, it threw a big middle finger to the other alliances at war with NPO. Alas it didnt happen. It would be good for coalition in which NPO finds it self as that would mean more strenght of NPO on other alliances which fight other coalition members and it. It did happen. It ended only when other people began to notice what was going on. And I agree that it was a good thing for NPO. I do not fault NPO for entering this deal, as it was of benefit to NPO and had no ill effects for the rest of the coalition. Edited November 8, 2013 by Crymson Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Branimir Posted November 8, 2013 Report Share Posted November 8, 2013 (edited) I apologize if I read you wrongly hartwf. To not cause the very thing I rejected for the thread here, Ill just end at that then. Edited November 8, 2013 by Branimir Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sir Humphrey Posted November 8, 2013 Report Share Posted November 8, 2013 (edited) I actually meant my imaginary quote for Val, not you guys. Val, I could see offering something like that. You guys? Not so much. And, you are correct, it helps you guys a lot more than it does the other side.I actually don't see how any deal would have helped NPO, given NPO nations are likely to be nuked anyway. I guess it would depend whether Val nations are better equipped as the designated nukers. Edited November 8, 2013 by Sir Humphrey Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thrash Posted November 8, 2013 Report Share Posted November 8, 2013 I understand people have a hard on for NPO though I fail to see how one could spin to make NPO a villian here. Vall only wars NPO. So it effects only the two parties. NPO is outgunned. Any relief would be nice. Did ya ask GATO yet? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gingervites Posted November 8, 2013 Report Share Posted November 8, 2013 It's as if Val thought know one would notice... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gibsonator21 Posted November 8, 2013 Report Share Posted November 8, 2013 I actually don't see how any deal would have helped NPO, given NPO nations are likely to be nuked anyway. I guess it would depend whether Val nations are better equipped as the designated nukers. None of Val nuking isn't a problem to the other people on that front? Come on, SH. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chimaera Posted November 8, 2013 Report Share Posted November 8, 2013 Oh - most of them weren't launching air attacks or cruise missiles either, FWIW. It wasn't JUST nukes, it was basically wargames. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gibsonator21 Posted November 8, 2013 Report Share Posted November 8, 2013 Oh - most of them weren't launching air attacks or cruise missiles either, FWIW. It wasn't JUST nukes, it was basically wargames. Wonder how many tanks were destroyed in spy ops... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chimaera Posted November 8, 2013 Report Share Posted November 8, 2013 Wonder how many tanks were destroyed in spy ops... You're implying they ran spy ops, Gibs. -1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gibsonator21 Posted November 8, 2013 Report Share Posted November 8, 2013 You're implying they ran spy ops, Gibs. -1 Well they had to gain spy XP somehow, and what better than tanks? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IYIyTh Posted November 8, 2013 Report Share Posted November 8, 2013 I thought that was against the ToS Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chimaera Posted November 8, 2013 Report Share Posted November 8, 2013 I thought that was against the ToS It's certainly against one document that comes to mind. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sir Humphrey Posted November 8, 2013 Report Share Posted November 8, 2013 None of Val nuking isn't a problem to the other people on that front? Come on, SH.I didn't say it wasn't a problem. But I assumed that if a target has 3 defensive slots with one Val attacker, the target would be nuked by the other attackers. It depends on target allocations, of course. I'm not trying to spin anything, just interested in how the logistics work. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gibsonator21 Posted November 8, 2013 Report Share Posted November 8, 2013 I didn't say it wasn't a problem. But I assumed that if a target has 3 defensive slots with one Val attacker, the target would be nuked by the other attackers. It depends on target allocations, of course. I'm not trying to spin anything, just interested in how the logistics work. Someone way more bored than me would have to pull up the stats for how many targets they were supposed to nuke. :P Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IYIyTh Posted November 8, 2013 Report Share Posted November 8, 2013 Or explain how the nukers that would've been spread over a variety of targets would not be, would not run out of nukes as fast -- and essentially be a slot-filling entity... But ain't nobody got time for that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anarquista Posted November 8, 2013 Report Share Posted November 8, 2013 thanks for providing data in a well organized manner, looks good Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Krashnaia Posted November 8, 2013 Report Share Posted November 8, 2013 Don't be that hard on Valhala, pals. It's their first war after all... :rolleyes: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
potato Posted November 8, 2013 Report Share Posted November 8, 2013 Valhalla is shit? Who would have thought? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robster83 Posted November 8, 2013 Report Share Posted November 8, 2013 Just wanted to say thanks for this Ogaden. It's really cool! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
berbers Posted November 8, 2013 Report Share Posted November 8, 2013 ouch, damage control from that will be tough :gag: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Varianz Posted November 8, 2013 Report Share Posted November 8, 2013 Most of our guys have now left PM, and those were our biggest/most active. Hopefully our numbers reflect that. I'm pleased with our stats thus far regardless. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ogaden Posted November 8, 2013 Author Report Share Posted November 8, 2013 Getting close to that magic 10 mil damage mark Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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