Executive Minister Posted March 8, 2012 Report Share Posted March 8, 2012 "The Principality has committed itself to do the responsible thing along with like minded member states, not the thing most suitable to the fainthearted. The island's indigenous security forces were not long ago working for a colonial government. Surely you can see the potential for problems to occur? We are merely taking the utmost precautions in these precarious times. We do not intend to subvert or replace African liberties upon the islands." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kevin Kingswell Posted March 8, 2012 Report Share Posted March 8, 2012 "Interesting how you skirted around the issue but regardless if we work to remove these weapons from the islands then our nations will no longer be under threat. Right now we have at the very least three battalions of Tanzania forces on the islands plus Manticores small detachment. The Legion who may I add made a significant effort to defeat the Canadians has only sent a small force as well and they are mostly assisting our search and rescue forces in looking for Canadian survivors which we have yet to see the Principality or any other AUP member carry out." "Listen all we need to do is remove the weapons that threaten our nations and we can leave Sao Tome and Principe to govern themselves and once they are governing themselves we can invite them into the AUP as members." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Enema Posted March 8, 2012 Report Share Posted March 8, 2012 "This is a debate that Legion finds irritating given our recent concerns over Sud Italia and the former Imperial holdings. However, we do see the merits and pitfalls of both sides of the debates and offer this counter-proposal. The missiles, the launchers, and the other military equipment are to either be removed or destroyed. The former Canadian oppressors who are in custody are to be returned to their home country with a bit of money in their pockets to tide them over as they re-establish themselves in whatever Canada is to become. The islands are to be extensively swept with satellites and other remote sensing technology for ammunition caches and explosives. Once completed there will be a strict moratorium placed on weapons procurement subject to immediate cancellation upon the islands forming a stable government of their own or merging with a stable African nation. Once the islands have been satisfactorily demilitarized, the forces on the islands will be removed and the local agencies will be supported remotely. Whatever the islanders choose for themselves upon removal of African Union forces is their decision. Should the islanders become hostile and aggressive they won't have the long range strike ability to bother much of anyone and will be easy prey to a naval blockade." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kevin Kingswell Posted March 8, 2012 Report Share Posted March 8, 2012 (edited) [quote name='Tidy Bowl Man' timestamp='1331216204' post='2935477'] "This is a debate that Legion finds irritating given our recent concerns over Sud Italia and the former Imperial holdings. However, we do see the merits and pitfalls of both sides of the debates and offer this counter-proposal. The missiles, the launchers, and the other military equipment are to either be removed or destroyed. The former Canadian oppressors who are in custody are to be returned to their home country with a bit of money in their pockets to tide them over as they re-establish themselves in whatever Canada is to become. The islands are to be extensively swept with satellites and other remote sensing technology for ammunition caches and explosives. Once completed there will be a strict moratorium placed on weapons procurement subject to immediate cancellation upon the islands forming a stable government of their own or merging with a stable African nation. Once the islands have been satisfactorily demilitarized, the forces on the islands will be removed and the local agencies will be supported remotely. Whatever the islanders choose for themselves upon removal of African Union forces is their decision. Should the islanders become hostile and aggressive they won't have the long range strike ability to bother much of anyone and will be easy prey to a naval blockade." [/quote] "The Royal Kingdom agrees completly with the Legion proposal as we feel that it allows the islanders to look after themselves whilst also removing any threat to AUP member nations. Manticore soldiers will begin to dismantle the weapon systems in their areas before searching for any concealed weapon and explosive stashes." Edited March 8, 2012 by Kevin Kingswell Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Zephyr Posted March 8, 2012 Report Share Posted March 8, 2012 Due to the proximity to Haven mainland, we would like to suggest that Haven integrates the islands into her territory. It would be a great naval asset and would still be open to AUP forces, plus it would receive funding to rebuild its ports and whatever other infrastructure was destroyed in the attack that it otherwise wouldn't get if it remained independent of a nation. If a government of its own wanted to form there we wouldn't stop it either. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joel James Posted March 8, 2012 Report Share Posted March 8, 2012 This is just a thought, but we could convert one of the islands, particularly the one that is farther away from the homeland, into a military base. Considering the distance that it is from Africa main, it would be easier to defend the island and provide security if there were a constant presence of a military force. I myself would not mind committing some of my nation's soldiers to this if it does come to pass. What say all of you? On a somewhat related note, I think it would be better to put the islands located of the coast of Haven into our sphere of influence. (OOC: Read 'Protectorate') Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Enema Posted March 8, 2012 Report Share Posted March 8, 2012 (edited) "Requesting immediate support in preventing the Lunar Republic from moving on the islands of Tenerife and De Palma. Legion will be declaring war upon the Lunar Republic should this entity attempts to meddle in African affairs in this manner. Further, should the South Americans insist on intruding in this manner, Legion will insist upon ejecting them from their Space Elevator base in Africa and putting it under an appropriate African administration, which will keep the space elevator open for international use. How far this goes is entirely up to the South Americans." Edited March 9, 2012 by Tidy Bowl Man Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kevin Kingswell Posted March 9, 2012 Report Share Posted March 9, 2012 "The Royal Kingdom of Manticore stands ready to support our brothers and sisters in Legion, if the Lunar Republic dares to bring conflict against you then know you will not stand against the tide alone. Our forces may not be as strong or as well trained as Legion's but we will not let them face the coming storm alone." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joel James Posted March 9, 2012 Report Share Posted March 9, 2012 Atlantis will also pledge support to fight off lands that are rightfully African. If it should come to pass, Atlantis will help with the eviction of the Space Elevator. No foreign power should take over African land without the consent of Africa. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Executive Minister Posted March 9, 2012 Report Share Posted March 9, 2012 "We are prepared," was all Liaison Minister Teguse would read from a communique sent directly from the Office of the Avatar-of-War. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Enema Posted March 9, 2012 Report Share Posted March 9, 2012 (edited) "Just remember, the Space Elevator isn't African. Its the product of numerous nation's efforts in giving all mankind a cost effective and low risk means of accessing the stars. The land might be African, but the elevator must remain open for the entire international community. We must make sure the world knows this will be the case as well. Though this is all highly speculative at the moment given the South American's moves are up in the air." Edited March 9, 2012 by Tidy Bowl Man Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VigilantWatcher Posted March 9, 2012 Author Report Share Posted March 9, 2012 "The Tanzania Federation is ready to support our African comrades." - Message from the Tanzania Federation Military High Command. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Zephyr Posted March 9, 2012 Report Share Posted March 9, 2012 "The forces kept at the Space Elevator are minimal. Its essentially a small security force and some staff to upkeep the elevator. The Lunar Republic is the best nation to keep it up and running in our opinion, though the territory they lay claim to around may not be necessary." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Enema Posted March 9, 2012 Report Share Posted March 9, 2012 "The Loonies retracted their demands for the islands. However, at the same time they've just forcibly requested the eviction 50,000 Legionnaires from Moonbase Dengali. Legion will be considering it's options carefully before responding. As there was no real claim for islands off the coast of Africa for a South American nation we find the response of the Loonies to be at best, provocative. The space elevator can be easily maintained by an international conglomerate of space faring nations. However, as the Loonies backed off, we find no valid reason to throw them off the job at this time." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Executive Minister Posted March 10, 2012 Report Share Posted March 10, 2012 (edited) MOVEMENTS True to its word, the Principality would begin a massive draw-down of protectorate forces from AUP held territories. A policy of reinforced self-rule would be enforced along with the creation of several small AUP sovereign bases in order to protect this policy. Divisions would be recalled from the former Sud Italian territory. In their place, a garrison of 6,000 would man Firebase Falcon on the Mediterranean. Built around the Tunisian peninsula of Djerba - specifically Djerba-Zarzis International Airport, this AUP facility would help safeguard Northern Africa, and help enforce AUP policies in the region. [img]http://i710.photobucket.com/albums/ww106/mofailla/Aeon%20Mil/falcon.jpg[/img] Divisions would also be recalled from the Eritrean AUP protectorate. The Principality would choose to ultimately not take Eritrean land in order to make an AUP sovereign base - instead it would donate its own land for Firebase Vulva (latin for Sheath or Scabbard ) in Djibouti. [img]http://i710.photobucket.com/albums/ww106/mofailla/Aeon%20Mil/red.jpg[/img] Ascension Island would remain in control of the Principality for the interim, until all Canadian strategic weaponry present on the island was dismantled by Aeon Elite Cadre for immediate transfer to the African mainland. There, these weapons would be dismantled and examined for weaknesses and advances for AUP forces to exploit. Testing would begin at once, and would continue until deemed complete. After that, Canadian weapons would be placed in storage, or donated to AUP member states that require them. In a controversial move, the 1,000 residents or so would be given a choice - be given free passage and four months salary for any state of their choice, or land in the heartland of the Principality. Residents would be permanently relocated for their safety - Ascension was a militarily strategic island in the Principality's eyes - they would be in danger. It was projected that a majority of these citizens would select the Principality after a vigorous media campaign on the island broadcast by the warfleet in the area. They would be promised the virgin, arable lands of Sidamo Province - rich and abundant with its coffee industries and artisan ship. Of course, they would also be offered the privilege of being an Aeon citizen, and all the amenities that citizens receive. Ascension itself was to be depopulated - becoming one of the most fortified positions held by the Aeon. All other protectorates on the African mainland would immediately see a sizeable reduction to nil of Aeon security forces, leaving control to the various other AUP states currently administering them. All firebases created by the Aeon initiative would be COMFOR-X pattern bases, housing extensive search and strike capabilities against the full spectrum of warfighting targets, as well as staging facilities for AUP warships and ground forces. Edited March 11, 2012 by Executive Minister Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Zephyr Posted March 11, 2012 Report Share Posted March 11, 2012 5000 troops would be sent to Sao Tome and Santa Antonio. People on those islands would be offered to be flown back to wherever they wanted. Otherwise the soldiers would begin the process of converting the island to Haven/AUP territory. All Canadian military infrastructure would be deconstructed and destroyed. Relief efforts to the city on the island would start and the people would start to rebuild any destroyed infrastructure again. "Haven would like to formally request that Sao Tome and the surrounding islands be integrated into Haven. The islands would be open to AUP forces as a compliment to Port Gentil of course." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Enema Posted March 11, 2012 Report Share Posted March 11, 2012 (edited) "Again, Legion objects to the... Uggghh.. whatever... :facepalms:... Often it seems like some people won't ever get the point even if it's right there in front of them." [b]Status Report: West African Protectorate, Tribal Autonomous Zone, Levantia, Aremor, Canary Islands[/b] [i]West Africa[/i] Local efforts have produced a local administrator for the protectorate. Mr. Nahs Nevar, an able bodied and highly intelligent native of West Africa, comes an exemplary curriculum vitae and has a solid background in public administration. Mr. Nevar will be supported and will be directing a team of Legion and West African administrators under the newly created Autonomous West African Province. As Legion has provided the bulk of the funding for these efforts, the West Africans are being given a parliamentary representation in Legion's Parliament for the time being. It is felt that the political exposure will provide a more studious breed of West African statesmen that will provide foundation for the West Africans to create their own political institutions in the future. Of course the measure is considered contingent upon local desires, should they create a local government that wishes to pursue other options, these moves will be encouraged and supported. At this time Firebase Opie stands at 10,500 active duty Legionnaires, which are needed for the supporting the ongoing mission in the Canary Islands. [i]Aremor[/i] The Legion Civil Action team in place continues to work with the local population. Not much to report as our Athenian counterparts seem intent on just garrisoning the place and forgetting it exists. Total Legion Forces: 1500 men [i]Tribal Autonomous Zone[/i] Everything is moving along smoothly. The 250 man Legion medical and educational detachment in the area is keeping a low profile. Legion Special Forces detachments are quietly keeping a close eye on the local tribes to ensure that tribal warfare doesn't get too out of hand. For the most part the area is sparsely populated anyway and the tribesmen seem well capable of taking care of themselves. total Legion forces- 450 [i]Levantia[/i] The Civil war seems to have stalled, but the question of the Vicidalian refugees still remains a pressing issue. Legion will be reaching out to the Lunar Republic once tensions ease over the Canaries and discussing the future of the Refugees. Preparations are being made to send in a larger force to begin stabilization operations. Legion Civil Action Team members have identified 147 leaders of the rebel movement and are preparing direct action responses for them. Total Legion Forces: Legion Battle Fleet, 4 Legion Naval Infantry Regimental Combat Teams, 144 Legion Strike Fighters, and a 1 Legion Civil Action Team. 34,000 men [i]Canary Islands[/i] The islands are sparsely populated. Most of the Canadian equipment has been dismantled in place. The ex-Canadian military members have either been relocated to Firebase Opie for internment or already sent home. Given the low population densities of the islands the idea of turning them both into wildlife preserves has been raised. This will be discussed further if needed, but for now it seems like this will be the most likely course of action. Total Legion Forces: 1200 men [b]Legion Technical Support Requests[/b] Legion's Strike Fighter fleet is growing quite antiquated. We wish to acquire a modernized fleet of mission variable strike fighters. Further, Legion is looking for a mobile ABM launcher and missile that can be fired either from a launch bay or a launcher for what will be part of Legion's ADA improvement measures. [b]Legion Bonds[/b] Legion is authorizing the sale of 200 billion in bonds to fund the construction of Legion's harden defense system. This system will house Legion's ABM missiles, Anti-Air missiles, and it will include a series of hardened fall out shelters. The price will far exceed 200 billion, but this initial cash influx will prime the pump and get things moving. [b]Private to Manticore[/b] We'd like to deploy an Engineering Regiment to the AUP base within your borders to expand it for the upcoming stabilization of Levantia. Upon completion the Engineering Regiment will be at your disposal for assisting in any local infrastructure improvement projects your government wishes to embark upon. Once the AUP base has been expanded a sizable force of transports will be stationed at it until the Levantia situation is properly taken care of, one way or another. Though it is our hope that Levantia is able to resolve their issues internally. With the transports will be 2 Airborne Regiments that will be sent in as part of the stabilization effort. Normally Legion would be opposed to sending in large amounts of forces, but the civil war and Vicidalian refugees creates a potentially massive crisis. You have our word that our forces will be drawn down at the earliest possible opportunity. Edited March 11, 2012 by Tidy Bowl Man Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kevin Kingswell Posted March 11, 2012 Report Share Posted March 11, 2012 (edited) [quote name='Tidy Bowl Man' timestamp='1331453282' post='2936749'] [b]Private to Manticore[/b] We'd like to deploy an Engineering Regiment to the AUP base within your borders to expand it for the upcoming stabilization of Levantia. Upon completion the Engineering Regiment will be at your disposal for assisting in any local infrastructure improvement projects your government wishes to embark upon. Once the AUP base has been expanded a sizable force of transports will be stationed at it until the Levantia situation is properly taken care of, one way or another. Though it is our hope that Levantia is able to resolve their issues internally. With the transports will be 2 Airborne Regiments that will be sent in as part of the stabilization effort. Normally Legion would be opposed to sending in large amounts of forces, but the civil war and Vicidalian refugees creates a potentially massive crisis. You have our word that our forces will be drawn down at the earliest possible opportunity. [/quote] [b]Private reply to Legion[/b] Manticore will glady accept the assistance of your Engineering Regiment in helping us to improve our base's capabilities as our own resources are limited though we would like to assure Legion that we are trying our best. Also your offer for assistance in our infrastructre projects is greatly appreciated as with your nations help we should be able to get our nation going on the path to improvement. Also we perfectly understand and accept the stationing of your Airborne Regiments at the base once it is improved, we already can see that if you are having to send that many troops then the situation must be quite dire. We will provide your soldiers with everything they will require during their stay and operation. [quote name='Lord Zephyr' timestamp='1331447446' post='2936733'] 5000 troops would be sent to Sao Tome and Santa Antonio. People on those islands would be offered to be flown back to wherever they wanted. Otherwise the soldiers would begin the process of converting the island to Haven/AUP territory. All Canadian military infrastructure would be deconstructed and destroyed. Relief efforts to the city on the island would start and the people would start to rebuild any destroyed infrastructure again. "Haven would like to formally request that Sao Tome and the surrounding islands be integrated into Haven. The islands would be open to AUP forces as a compliment to Port Gentil of course." [/quote] "The Royal Kingdom of Manticore can not and will not accept any more forces being sent to Sao Tome as the situation there is already well under control. Thanks to the work of our own small detachment and local security personal there have been no outbreaks of violence and relations with the locals have massivly improved. Not to mention that the locals have informed us that they wish to stay on the islands free of AUP control and demands though they will surely remain friendly to us if we treat them with friendship and respect." "Therefore Manticore hereby votes against the request by Haven to integrate Sao Tome and its surronding islands into their nation. The islands will and should remain protected but free to look after and control themselves." Edited March 11, 2012 by Kevin Kingswell Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Executive Minister Posted March 11, 2012 Report Share Posted March 11, 2012 (edited) OOC: With all due respect KK, who the hell is going to DoE on those islands? Seems pretty stupid to leave em 'open to new RPers' like our other AUP protectorates. IC: If Haven is able and willing to provide services up to or better than what is currently being provided to the Sao Tome and Principe denizens - especially with regards to the cultural and social standards set by the AUP charter, we see no reason to bar them from developing these islands. Haven is a respected AUP member in our eyes - we have no reason to doubt their capabilities. In any case, we all exist as organs of the AUP to ensure a higher standard of living and personal freedoms to the African citizen at large. The Niger Delta province is also a prospective petroleum exploration site in our records, Haven can utilize its industrial infrastructure and this burgeoning resource to further develop the islands into a vital African asset. Surely the AUP would not be against such development? By consolidating the islands and the untapped resources on board for the greater good, we will all grow stronger as they prosper. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- With a brisk change of topic, the Principality would like to initiate another roll call. Construction of AUP bases in Aeon territories, as well as Aeon held protectorates is going smoothly, and we have all been treated with the Legion's regular reports. What is the status of other AUP member states? How is Arctica holding up? If any AUP member finds itself in either infrastructural, military or monetary need when it comes to self-defense or security concerns, the Principality offers its help here and now. Edited March 11, 2012 by Executive Minister Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VigilantWatcher Posted March 11, 2012 Author Report Share Posted March 11, 2012 (edited) The Tanzania Federation supports Haven in its request to integrate Sao Tome and its surronding islands into their nation. We would even help fund any projects that are started on the islands to ensure the islands get the support they need in accordance with AUP directives for a better continent and stronger Africa. Edited March 11, 2012 by Curristan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joel James Posted March 11, 2012 Report Share Posted March 11, 2012 I would like to talk about the protectorates. I know that this is not our main concern right now, but I think I should speak up. I agree that there is a chance that the protectorate towards the east of my nation has a chance of being claimed. Slim, but there is still a chance. The other protectorates though-such as the ones like the former nation of Sands-I don't think has a chance of filling. Who would want to claim it? Sure a micro might want it, but they usually don't last long. What should we do about the various protectorates around this great continent? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Enema Posted March 12, 2012 Report Share Posted March 12, 2012 (edited) [b]Legion[/b] The Legion 113th Engineering Regiment is given orders to go ashore form their position off the coast of Levantia and directly to the Manticoran AUP base. They bring with them a sizable allotment of heavy construction equipment and other materials needed for the rapid expansion of the AUP Base. Within hours of their arrivals the first of the General Purpose (Large) Tents are erected with several dozen more going up to provide shelter for the Engineers in their off hours. Combat Engineering Vehicles are being used to create a temporary holding pool for water which is to be pumped directly out of the ocean, desalinized, and into the newly built pool that will be lined with a thick layer of plastic to keep out foreign debris. Along the beaches are appropriate points the foundations are being surveyed for tidal power generators to keep the base well powered. Other survey teams are being tasked with laying out the base housing grid and making the measurements needed for the pouring of a proper runway. To get things in motion temporary steel runway matting is being ferried ashore and a temporary runway is being established to commence flying in the 502nd and 503rd Airborne Regiments. Once completed the base will be capable of providing it's own power from two independent sources, have a redundant radar system, and be equipped with a variety of long range and short range Air Defense Systems. To assist with local transportation a Legion Air Transport Regimental Headquarters is flown in and ordered to begin preparing for the orderly arrival of the two airborne regiments. They are housed in two of the large General Purpose Tents and given orders to collaborate with local Manticoran authorities to ensure that Manticoran Air Space is properly respected at all times. Legion Special Forces Command is alerted and ordered to begin forming a Direct Action Task Force for the stabilization of Levantia. Intelligence is funneled into the task force as the Special forces troopers train and prepare for their specific assignments in conjunction with the Legion Civil Action Team units already on the ground. Special consignments of equipment are earmarked and prioritized for shipping to Manticore to ensure that the Direct Action Teams are well provided for when the time comes to liquidate unstable elements from Levantia to ensure the long term peace and harmony of the region. [i]Regarding Sao Tome[/i] "I believe the concern the Manticorans are expressing is more to do with the number of troops being sent into the islands, which Legion finds objectionable as well. However, we've just tired of playing the same tired old song over and over again with no one willing to listen unless we jump up and down and scream. As for Haven acquiring these islands... Has anyone asked the locals what they want?" [i]Former Republic of Paris Protectorate[/i] "Legion isn't at all concerned with a native movement rising up and regaining control of their lands, we support this and encourage it. Legion will violently contest any of these outsider regimes moving in to assume control. Should a nation rise up under the helm of foreigners, Legion will immediately declare war upon said nation and will seek to eradicate said foreigners with extreme violence. Legion has invested billions in monies and man hours into freeing those lands from a government of fools. The AUP as a group fought a war to protect the area from Canadian predation. We would be most wise to carefully sign off on any new governments to ensure they are indeed a government of local origin and a government with the support of the majority of the local population." [i]Tribal Autonomous Zone, aka Sand's old place[/i] "Legion insists upon no change in the status of this area for the foreseeable future." Edited March 12, 2012 by Tidy Bowl Man Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Zephyr Posted March 12, 2012 Report Share Posted March 12, 2012 Regarding the troops being sent to the island. It's not like we are diverting a huge number of our forces to the island literally right off of our coasts. We could have those troops back within 24 hours, we could also reinforce them within hours. Not to mention most of our own navy is literally right off coast. Most of the troops purpose is to handle any military equipment found on the island, and the other purpose is as a policing force to stop any canadians from making trouble. Another point is this is a relatively small area. We are not spreading hundreds of thousands of troops across a wide area, only a few thousand on the island. OOC: Lets be honest here, who wants to acquire an island because they want a vacation spot for their troops. I want them as military bases, thus the rather large amount of troops for the area being sent there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Enema Posted March 12, 2012 Report Share Posted March 12, 2012 OOC: I dunno.. Personally.. had you invaded them like I suggested in private you wouldn't be having this problem. However, you didn't.. and it seems like you want to reap the rewards without any of the effort. Which is my only objection to you getting the islands, you have plenty of other land for military bases. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Zephyr Posted March 12, 2012 Report Share Posted March 12, 2012 OOC: I was busy, and canada went under before I got any of my posts together. It's not like we had a hard land battle in taking the island. I did participate in the naval side of it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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