Duncan King Posted November 26, 2011 Report Share Posted November 26, 2011 [quote name='Cataduanes' timestamp='1322303746' post='2852284'] A fact conveniently forgotten not least by many who were CnG and expressed such outrage at the time. [/quote] After having to pay reps to them, TOP realized they had more in common with MK than they thought and eventually treatied them. They both moved on after their dispute. That is what they are supposed to do and they are not the only former combatants to become friends after a war. With this war, TOP are choosing to not move on with NpO but the fact that they are treatied to MK now shows that something good came out of that war for them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Centurius Posted November 26, 2011 Report Share Posted November 26, 2011 A Paradoxian always pays his debts, and looks quite classy when paying them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pezstar Posted November 26, 2011 Report Share Posted November 26, 2011 [quote name='Schattenmann' timestamp='1322297764' post='2852184'] TOP made an idiotic move as the result of pinning their fate to another alliance just as they have always done, but that time they weren't able to cancel or ignore a treaty in time to save your own keester. Your mistake was your own, your reps and humiliation were at the hands of MK. [/quote] I agree with you more often than not, Schatt, but in this case, not so much. As someone who was there for all of this, I agree that TOP and IRON were screwed over by Polaris in this war, as were many other alliances, STA included. It took a long, long time for us to work through our differences with Polaris over Bipolar. I agree that this war has been a long time coming, and is deserved. I will fight because Polaris is STA's ally, and because war is fun. I don't, however, think this CB is spurious or contrived. From the minute Bipolar ended, TOP has said "We're coming for you. Expect us." They've come, and it's on. I wish everyone good luck, and a good war. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rhizoctonia Posted November 26, 2011 Report Share Posted November 26, 2011 To our brothers and allies in TOP & IRON, have fun rolling them! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goldie Posted November 26, 2011 Report Share Posted November 26, 2011 So happy to see this finally here. You have sat biding your time for so long, this must feel amazing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Centurius Posted November 26, 2011 Report Share Posted November 26, 2011 [quote name='Rotavele' timestamp='1322301477' post='2852243'] Honestly all I hear is "You betrayed us 3 years ago, You made us pay reps because we lost a war, and now that we have became friends with someone stronger then you were gonna fight you!". It was funnier when TOP was going to declare 3 days ago but then lost support from their new allies and they ran like cowards. The reason there is 66 wars by IRON/TOP is because they're not even fighting, PB/DH is fighting for TOP. If PB/DH dropped support for TOP tomorrow, TOP would call a ceasefire and beg for white peace. TOP will never fight this war, only talk about how they did so well when someone else tries to roll Polar. If TOP was offended so much of getting "betrayed" by Polaris back then, then why didn't they declare 2 years ago and settle the issue? EDIT: Polaris, Please fill out a new debt slip to TOP for 253,000 Tech this time... So they can call it an even 500,000. [/quote] 2010 is not 3 years ago and paying reparations and rebuilding takes time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Silent Spectre Posted November 26, 2011 Report Share Posted November 26, 2011 (edited) Wow.... really? You couldn't find a real CB other than "you hurt our feelings two years ago"? TOP, I love you guys, but I expected more. Edited November 26, 2011 by Silent Spectre Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beefspari Posted November 26, 2011 Report Share Posted November 26, 2011 I'll try and keep an aid slot open. When are GOONs reps supposed to be arriving? [img]http://meru.xfury.net/images/aeris/aeriswutL1.jpg[/img] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Miller Posted November 26, 2011 Report Share Posted November 26, 2011 [quote name='pezstar' timestamp='1322313233' post='2852389'] I agree with you more often than not, Schatt, but in this case, not so much. As someone who was there for all of this, I agree that TOP and IRON were screwed over by Polaris in this war, as were many other alliances, STA included. It took a long, long time for us to work through our differences with Polaris over Bipolar. I agree that this war has been a long time coming, and is deserved. I will fight because Polaris is STA's ally, and because war is fun. I don't, however, think this CB is spurious or contrived. From the minute Bipolar ended, TOP has said "We're coming for you. Expect us." They've come, and it's on. I wish everyone good luck, and a good war. [/quote] Wow, Pez. That was refreshingly lacking spin, I appreciate it. May you enjoy the fight. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
President S O Posted November 26, 2011 Report Share Posted November 26, 2011 [quote name='pezstar' timestamp='1322313233' post='2852389'] I agree with you more often than not, Schatt, but in this case, not so much. As someone who was there for all of this, I agree that TOP and IRON were screwed over by Polaris in this war, as were many other alliances, STA included. It took a long, long time for us to work through our differences with Polaris over Bipolar. I agree that this war has been a long time coming, and is deserved. I will fight because Polaris is STA's ally, and because war is fun. I don't, however, think this CB is spurious or contrived. From the minute Bipolar ended, TOP has said "We're coming for you. Expect us." They've come, and it's on. I wish everyone good luck, and a good war. [/quote] I sincerely appreciate the lack of BS in this post, more need to be like this! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoMercy Posted November 26, 2011 Report Share Posted November 26, 2011 [quote name='Schattenmann' timestamp='1322297764' post='2852184'] TOP made an idiotic move as the result of pinning their fate to another alliance just as they have always done, but that time they weren't able to cancel or ignore a treaty in time to save your own keester. Your mistake was your own, your reps and humiliation were at the hands of MK. [/quote] Yeah. TOP [i]trusted[/i] the New Polar Order. That's about the only mistake they made. And now, they are getting the bills. This planet has been a great place for the emotions, the grudges and the hate. Vengeance is the most honest and the best CB. Johan Vult! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wu Tang Clan Posted November 26, 2011 Report Share Posted November 26, 2011 [quote name='Tygaland' timestamp='1322304484' post='2852296'] Grub was a man with a grudge who saw a chance to indulge it and it cost him and his alliance a lot. I am sure he thinks it is worth it. [/quote] It is unfortunate when an alliance leader becomes more obsessed with his personal agenda than the good of the alliance he is leading... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tygaland Posted November 26, 2011 Report Share Posted November 26, 2011 [quote name='Wu Tang Clan' timestamp='1322319118' post='2852466'] It is unfortunate when an alliance leader becomes more obsessed with his personal agenda than the good of the alliance he is leading... [/quote] Lucky for the STA, I'm still looking for my agenda. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wu Tang Clan Posted November 26, 2011 Report Share Posted November 26, 2011 [quote name='Silent Spectre' timestamp='1322315230' post='2852402'] Wow.... really? You couldn't find a real CB other than "you hurt our feelings two years ago"? TOP, I love you guys, but I expected more. [/quote] Quite the contrary, it's the best CB there is. A war fought for a real reason, rather than some fabricated bs that the collective world would recognize as a "casus belli" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scorponok Posted November 26, 2011 Report Share Posted November 26, 2011 [quote name='Wu Tang Clan' timestamp='1322319118' post='2852466'] It is unfortunate when an alliance leader becomes more obsessed with his personal agenda than the good of the alliance he is leading... [/quote] Hopefully not too many alliances are plagued by them. Also Pez, that post was great. Need more honesty here on bob. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crazy canuck Posted November 26, 2011 Report Share Posted November 26, 2011 A Paradoxian Always Pays His Debts. I have to laugh at people that act surprised this day has finally come. We have always said we would pay back our debt to Polar. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dia Lucrii Posted November 26, 2011 Report Share Posted November 26, 2011 Well this should be fun Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zzzptm Posted November 26, 2011 Report Share Posted November 26, 2011 Johan Vult! So it shall be! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Exige Posted November 26, 2011 Report Share Posted November 26, 2011 best of luck TOP Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LordBucks Posted November 26, 2011 Report Share Posted November 26, 2011 Well, this should be fun. Congrats on finally finding you balls TOP, why do they disappear every so often anyway? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Voodoo Nova Posted November 26, 2011 Report Share Posted November 26, 2011 God speed my friends. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zzzptm Posted November 26, 2011 Report Share Posted November 26, 2011 [quote name='LordBucks' timestamp='1322322255' post='2852501'] Well, this should be fun. Congrats on finally finding you balls TOP, why do they disappear every so often anyway? [/quote] So you're saying that GOD *has* cojones? Cool, so that means GOD will counter people that hit RIA when it supports NpO. Cool story, bro. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blue Lightning Posted November 26, 2011 Report Share Posted November 26, 2011 The forum rules prevent me from posting my true feelings for Polaris. [IMG]http://i.imgur.com/OVcEz.gif[/IMG] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LordBucks Posted November 26, 2011 Report Share Posted November 26, 2011 [quote name='zzzptm' timestamp='1322323322' post='2852535'] So you're saying that GOD *has* cojones? Cool, so that means GOD will counter people that hit RIA when it supports NpO. Cool story, bro. [/quote] My stories aim to entertain the masses. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bodvar Jarl Posted November 26, 2011 Report Share Posted November 26, 2011 Johan Vult! Vengeance, Justice, Fire and blood. And paying debts, one warhead at a time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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