Cyber Nations Forum Rules 07/03/2016Cyber Nations Forum Rules
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The following are basic guidelines for use of the Cyber Nations community forum. Anyone caught disobeying these guidelines will be issued a warning. The forum staff works on a five warn limit policy unless the situation calls for more appropriate action ranging from a verbal warning to a double warn and suspension to an immediate ban, etc. Just because something is not listed specifically here as illegal does not mean it's allowed. All players are expected to use common sense and are personally responsible for reading the pinned threads found in the Moderation forum. Questions regarding appropriateness or other concerns can be sent via PM to an appropriate moderator. A permanent ban on the forums results in a game ban, and vice versa. Please note that the in-game warn system works on a "three strikes you're out" policy and that in-game actions (including warnings and deletions) may not be appealed. For more information regarding in-game rules please read the Cyber Nations Game Rules. 1.) First Warning
2.) Second Warning
3.) Third Warning (48 hour suspension at the forum)
4.) Fourth Warning (120 hour suspension at the forum)
5.) Permanent Ban Game Bans and Forum Bans
If you receive a 100% warn level on the forums, you will be subject to removal from the forums AND have your nation deleted and banned from the game at moderator(s) discretion. If you are banned in the game, then you will be banned from the forums. Process of Appeals
Players may not appeal any in-game actions. This includes cheat flags, canceled trades, content removals, warn level increases, nation deletion, and bans from the game. Players may appeal individual forum warnings. You may only appeal a warning if you can show with evidence that it was unwarranted or unduly harsh. If a reasonable amount of time has passed (no less than one month and preferably longer) in which you have demonstrated reformed behavior than you may request a warning level reduction. Wasting staff time with inappropriately filed reports and/or unfounded appeals will result in a warn level raise. Repeat incidences will result in a ban from the forum. Bans are permanent. Banned players may appeal to the Senior Staff if they believe grounds exist (very, very rare) in which they state their case with evidence and why explain why they believe they deserve to be allowed back into Cyber Nations. This process is not quick and the investigation into cases may last three minutes or three weeks or more depending on the individual situation. The only place where discussion of moderator action is acceptable is in the appropriate Moderation forum. Posting commentary on or disagreement with moderator action elsewhere will result in a warn level raise. Posting
All posts must be in English. Common phrases in other languages will be allowed so long as they are translated upon request. Foreign languages are permitted in signatures and avatars, however. Certain areas of the forum require you to have a nation in either standard CN or CN:TE. If you have... A SE and a TE nation: You get one forum account. Your forum account name must match your SE nation or ruler name. You are allowed to post in either SE or TE areas of the forum. You must have your CN:TE nation name listed in your profile to post in the CN:TE section of the forum.
Just an SE nation: You get one forum account. Your forum account name must match your SE nation or ruler name. You are not allowed to post in any TE areas of the forum.
Just a TE nation: You get one forum account. Your forum account name must match your TE nation name or ruler name. Your must have your CN:TE nation name listed correctly in your profile. You are not allowed to post in any of the SE areas. You are allowed to post in the water cooler, question center and the moderation forums. Other than that, all your posts need to stay in the TE area. Flame/Flamebait/Trolling
Flaming is expressing anger or lobbing insults at a person/player rather than a character, post, idea, etc. Flamebait are posts that are made with the aim of targeting/harassing/provoking another user into rule-breaking. Trolling is submitting posts with the aim of targeting/harassing/provoking a specific group into rule-breaking. Forum users should not be participating in any of these, and doing so will result in a warning. Topic Hijacking
Hijacking is forcing the current thread discussion off of the original topic and usually results in spam or flame from either side. Forum users found hijacking threads will be given a warning. Repeat Topics
One topic is enough. Repeat topics will be locked, removed, and the author given a warning. Users found creating repeat topics after others were locked by staff will receive a warn raise. Joke Topics
Topics created as a joke are prohibited. Joke topics will be locked and the author warned. This includes topics in which the author is making an announcement “for” another in-game alliance. Humorous threads are permitted; it is up to the discretion of the moderation staff to determine what is merely satire and what is actually a joke topic. Spam
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There are forums that are not for discussion and are used strictly for game and forum staff to address certain issues, bugs, etc. The following forums are not open to discussion: Report Game Abuse, Report Forum Abuse, and Warn/Ban Appeals. Only moderators and the original poster may post in a thread, period, with absolutely no exceptions. Users found disobeying this guideline will receive an automatic warning for each offense. Moderation Forums
All Moderation forums also maintain pinned threads clearly marked as required reading before posting. Failure to read and follow required reading and procedure in a Moderation forum will result in a warning. Examples include posting requests in the wrong forum, failure to include all required information in posts, etc. The standard of conduct and enforcement of rules in Moderation forums is strictly enforced and the repercussions for disregarding rules or disrespecting staff are harsh. Read the pinned threads before posting and you will be fine. Namecalling
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Gravedigging is not allowed anywhere on the forums. Gravedigging is "bumping" old topics which haven't been active for quite some time (four to seven days is standard depending on the nature of the thread and how many pages back it had been pushed before bump). Your warn level will be raised if you are caught doing this. The Suggestion Box and Black Market forums are partial exceptions to this rule. Suggestions/ideas in that forum may be posted in regardless of age PROVIDING that the reviving post contains constructive, on-topic input to the original topic or discussion. Black Market threads may be bumped by the author if there is new information about the offered exchange (i.e open aid slots). In the Player Created Alliances forum it will not be considered gravedigging to bump a topic up to a year old, so long as the alliance in question still exists and it is not a duplicate thread. Signatures
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NG-TTK NON-AGGRESSION PACT This pact of non-aggression is made on this, the 22nd of February, 2018 by and between Non-Grata and The Templar Knights for the duration of six months. Whereas both parties desire to enter into this agreement, the terms are as follows: Article 1: Neither alliance will commence any acts of hostility or espionage towards the other. Article 2: Should a member of either alliance be caught in acts of espionage or hostility towards the other alliance, an official statement and reparations will be required within 48 hours of the alliance being notified. The hostile member must be punished by their alliance, in accordance with the constitution and laws of the member’s alliance, within 32 hours of the official statement. Neither alliance shall provide aid of any form (military, intelligence, finance or technology) to a known enemy of the other, if this should happen then a greater amount of aid must be given to the non-offending alliance within 48 hours. Article 3: Should either alliance come under attack, neither alliance is not obliged to provide any sort of aid. Article 4: As a sign of good faith, both participants are encouraged to provide regular updates to each other regarding major changes to foreign relations, internal events, or members. Article 5: In cases where there is the apparent disregard of the articles of this NAP, either alliance may request an official statement be made within 24 hours stating the valid reasons for such actions (requiring proof) with the allowance that the alliance in breach of this agreement is to pay fair reparations. Only after pursuing these steps, and having been rebuffed, this pact can be broken immediately. Article 6: This pact constitutes the entire understanding between both alliances and supersedes all prior pacts, treaties, and negotiations. Hereto affirmed by, Non-Grata Caustic – God Emperor The Templar Knights Merick – Grand Master Rustikus – Marshal of Defense Riker – Marshal of Foreign Affairs Mandystalin – Marshal of Members Double B – Marshal of Recruitment Konstantine – Elder Council Sergeant At Arms King Irwin – Elder Council The Slam Anderson – Elder Council
1. The alliances TTK, RIA, CRAP, SUN, NADC, Invicta, OG and Legion agree to peace with the M3D/Oculus coalition consisting of the alliances of NG, NoR, TLR, NPO, IRON, Umbrella, ODN, VE, NpO, DT, GATO, NATO, SLAP, GLoF, COBRA and The A-Team. 2. No further wars are to be declared by either side as of the posting of this announcement, existing wars may be ended at the discretion of the nation rulers in question. Any wars declared after this agreement shall result in reparations. Exceptions are made to this in clause #6. 3. TTK, RIA and CRAP agree not to provide support to more than one candidate *between them* per election in the Maroon senate. The need for this term shall be reviewed after a period of six months. 4. The alliances of M3D and the Chestnut Accords agree not to sanction one another or to otherwise intentionally use their senate seats to the other party’s detriment. 5. Alliances getting peace agree to not reenter or provide financial assistance in any of the ongoing conflicts against Oculus and its allies. 6. The alliances of TTK and RIA shall remain at war with the entirety of the M3D bloc for a period of 13 additional days, at which point clause #2 shall come into effect. Chestnut Coalition Signed for The Templar Knights Merick, Grand Master Marshals: Blackatron Mandystalin Rustikus Northern Empire Elder Council: Tiger c Konstantine Necron681 Teredona, Patriarch Signed for the Random Insanity Alliance Shadow, By the Grace of Cactuar, His Glorious Excellency The Most Holy, Blessed, and Venerable Lord Cactuar of Random Insanity and the Dominions and Territories thereunto belonging, Captain Planet Emeritus, Supreme Pontiff of the Holy Realms of the Cactuar, Defender of the Faith, Guardian of the Funk, Grand Master of the Most Noble Sovereign Military Order of Cactimus Prime, Central Commander of the Nintuar Clan, Leader and Guide of the Rivolucion, The Ultimate Lifeform, Mystic Dragon Emperor of the Cheeselands, Archduke of Disorder, Overlord of Lunacy, Puppetmaster of Chaos, etc. Floridian Council, Cactimus Prime dester55 Gigantuar Leo, Hello Liz Funktuar Mogar, Emperor of the Royal Ariana Grande Empire, Minister of Mogar Affairs, Minister of Attention, CN's Psychologist, Captain Planet Emeritus, Former Pink Senator, Frequent nuclear rogue, First!, Master of Amsging, Banned for your Sins, King of Notaries, Dual Member of The Bear Cavalry whether they want him or not, Defender of all of the cybernations waifus, Scourge of the low tier, Maroonity Forever, still working on coming up with more titles to catch up to Shadow, All Around Nice Guy, Also Hello Electron Sponge. Signed for the Coalition of Royal Allied Powers Chuck Normis - Triumvirate, Lord Zort and the savior of all LIltrekkie - Triumvirate, The real wonder hamster. Signed for The Legion deathbiter - Imperator tom the pit leader - Consul of Foreign Affairs and Defense CodFCS - Consul of Internal and Economic Affairs Konkrage - Elected Imperator Emeritus Regent Pancras - Elected Imperator Emeritus Signed for the North Atlantic Defense Coalition Bernkastel, Secretary General Chunky Monkey, Deputy Secretary General Signed for the State of Unified Nations Fen Dorbek, SUN Emperor Signed for Invicta /s/ King Biscuit, President of Invicta /s/ Thrash, Minister of Foreign Affairs /s/ Rotty, Minister of Doggos and Puppers Signed for the Old Guard TexWheeler Triumvir of Security Lan Mandragoran Triumvir of Internal Affairs EEjack Triumvir of External Affairs For the M3D/Oculus coaltion Signed for Non Grata Caustic: Power Top Abshire: Papa Bear Schrodinger: Professional Twink Signed for Nordreich Kaiser: Oro Ibah Aozpi Kronprinz: Latexi Reichsmarschall: Kristjan Laidoner Stabsoffizier: Johan Pitka Reichskanzlerin and Reichsminister of Foreign Affairs: Kaiser Hanssen Reichsbanker: PuliSher Reichsminister of Culture and Propaganda: Trebs Signed for The Last Remnants Kestral Elorian Hombre de Murcielago Signed for the New Pacific Order Lord of Darkness, Emperor of the New Pacific Order Prophet of Orion Shadow of the Order Jesse End, Imperial Regent of the New Pacific Order Dan100, Gumpper, & Nemphesis, Imperial Officers of the New Pacific Order Signed for the Independent Republic of Orange Nations The Warrior, President, IRON Councilor Blade 619, Minister of Defense, IRON Councilor Rhizoctonia, Secretary of State, IRON Councilor Hertt, Minister of Internal Affairs, IRON Councilor Mandarijn, Minister of the Vault, IRON Councilor Signed for Umbrella Roquentin, President Signed for the Orange Defense Network Bucovina, Secretary General Hershey, Secretary of Defense Franziskaner, Secretary of Interior Nikolay, Secretary of State Senate LXXVII: OsRavan, Dr. Hrmmm, Azkar, Hawspiper, Soccerbum Signed for the Viridian Entente Supreme 142, Lord of the Viridian Entente Austrailia, Duke of the Entente Azure, Secretary of Defense Blkandwhitlion, Secretary of Economics Signed for the New Polar Order EaTeMuP - Emperor AlmightyGrub - Regent, Imperator Emeritus HannaH - Minister of Truth Emperor Jason - Minister of Peace Quantum Leap - Minister of Love bluesam3 - Minister of Plenty Signed for the Dark Templar Starcraftmazter Terrence Krillins Supa_troop3r Triumvirate Signed for the Global Alliance and Treaty Organization GATO General Assembly Alexio15, Assembly Chairman Crv24, Deputy Assembly Chairman Tevron, Minister of Foreign Affairs Diomedes, Minister of Defense Overlord Wes, Minister of Domestic Affairs Sir Kiloist, Minister of Finance Signed for NATO NATO Council/Elders/Usurpers Shadowstriker Lenny N Karl TaylorLuckyLee Johny07 Ionabis Matt Colst0ne Old Self Grand Lord of Funk Anu Drake Signed for the Sovereign League of Armed Powers Banned, the Blood God Signed for the Grand Lodge of Freemasons Monkeybum Grand Chancellor of GLoF Obscurus Grand Old Fart Alexg314 Grand Master of GLoF Signed for COBRA General Kanabis, King Cobra Signed for The A-Team John “Hannibal” Smith~ Templeton “Faceman” Peck~ Bosco “B.A.” (Bad Attitude) Baracus~ H. M. “Howling Mad” Murdoch~
Following the deletion of our comments on the Maroon senate The Templar Knights declares war on Non Grata. Signed Merick, Grand Master Rustikus, Marshal of Defence Mandystalin, Marshal of Members Blackatron, Marshal of Foreign Affairs Elder Council, Lord Konstantine Necron681 Tiger c Patriarchs Teredona Hawkeye
TREATY FOR MAROON DOMINANCE Article I: The alliances of Non Grata, Nordreich, and The Last Remnants (“Signatory Alliances”) join together for the mutual domination of Maroon. Article II: Should the Signatory Alliances’ dominance of Maroon be threatened, the Signatory Alliances are obliged to use any and all means necessary to address such threat and to defend one another when in pursuit thereof. Article III: The Signatory Alliances agree to refrain from hostilities against one another, and to resolve all disputes peaceably. Article IV: The Signatory Alliances agree to distribute the Maroon senate seats as follows: 1) Non Grata will hold two (2) senate seats 2) Nordreich will hold two (2) senate seats 3) TLR will hold one (1) senate seat 4) The distribution of senate seats may be changed with the agreement of all signatory alliances Article V: Signatory Alliances agree that they will not sanction the member nations of any of the Signatory Alliances. Article VI: Which alliances constitute a threat, for the purposes of Article I, and how to respond will be determined by the Signatory Alliances on an ad hoc basis. For Non Grata: Abshire, Duumvir Erwin Schrodinger, Duumvir For Nordreich: Oro Iban Aozpi, Kaiser Latexi, Kronprinz Kaiser Hansen, Reichskanzlerin PuliSher, Cancertroll For The Last Remnants: Triumvirate of TLR Kestral Hombre de Murcielago Jgoods45
Following a minor dispute on the Maroon senate a few days ago, presumably regarding the “Pro peace” proposal, the leaders of TTK and RIA received these messages: As the remaining signatories are all either allied to one another, or essentially no longer exist as alliances, we are hereby announcing that “One Big Happy Family Accords” is considered defunct. We are not certain as to why the cancellation was necessary but are open to communication between our respective alliances to solve any misunderstanding that might exist, OBHFA had allowed for over 2 years of a peaceful maroon. We hope to continue good and amicable relations despite this cancellation. The Random Insanity Alliance, Lord Cactuar: Shadow, By the Grace of Cactuar, His Glorious Excellency The Most Holy, Blessed, and Venerable Lord Cactuar of Random Insanity and the Dominions and Territories thereunto belonging, Captain Planet Emeritus, Supreme Pontiff of the Holy Realms of the Cactuar, Defender of the Faith, Guardian of the Funk, Grand Master of the Most Noble Sovereign Military Order of Cactimus Prime, Central Commander of the Nintuar Clan, Leader and Guide of the Rivolucion, The Ultimate Lifeform, Mystic Dragon Emperor of the Cheeselands, Archduke of Disorder, Overlord of Lunacy, Puppetmaster of Chaos, etc. Floridian Council, Cactimus Prime dester55 Gigantuar Leo, Hello Liz Funktuar Mogar, Emperor of the Royal Ariana Grande Empire, Minister of Mogar Affairs, Minister of Attention, CN's Psychologist, Captain Planet Emeritus, Frequent nuclear rogue, First!, Master of Amsging, Banned for your Sins, King of Notaries, Dual Member of The Bear Cavalry whether they want him or not, Defender of all of the ladies of the cyberverse, Lord of the Great Eastern Ocean, Knight of Maroonity, Wonderer if anyone actually reads any of this, still working on coming up with more titles to catch up to Shadow, All Around Nice Guy, Also Hello Electron Sponge. The Templar Knights, Merick, Grand Master Rustikus, Marshal of Defence Mandystalin, Marshal of Members Blackatron, Marshal of Foreign Affairs Elder Council, Lord Konstantine Necron681 Tiger c
This afternoon, I noticed that a month ago I was asked what I thought about the Polaris-NG treaty. Yes, a month, I love you all, but I just don't care too much, anymore. I read my answer at Polaris' forum, and decided that it is sufficiently interesting to me that I know everyone else will be thrilled to read it. You're quite welcome. In all seriousness, even though the treaty itself is old news, the question became a platform to discuss philosophy, and I love talking foreign policy. I understand you're reducing your big FA moment down to a gotcha on me, but here's the serious answer. We will examine my opinion on Polaris' FA decision through the philosophy I have always used in regards to FA, illuminated by personal example. My opinion springs from my ideology, and ideology guides my actions, it all fits. My thoughts/philosophy on treaties in general should be well known enough, by now, (1, 2, 3) but I am keenly aware that my personality has overshadowed my message for a long time. So to recap, in short: First: A treaty is an endorsement, and a partnership, and it ties responsibility for one AA's actions to the other. For example, New Polar Order in 2007 can't PZI 20 people a year without being shored up by 3 or 4 different blocs, or NPO in 2008 can't keep GATO at war indefinitely for using peace mode without having 16 top flight AAs backing them up. Lip service does not change culpability. For example, if OsRavan says "I'm totally against reps" 500 times a day, then sits down in peace talks and says to Cult of Justitia "you will have no peace with ODN until you agree to pay GOONS $200,000,000" and to Legion "you will not have peace until you pay our allies $1 Billion" then what matters? The principles ODN says they hold, or the actions ODN takes? There can be no denying that a treaty is an endorsement and a partnership. Any such denial is intellectual dishonesty at best and in reality is simply a lie politicians tell each other, themselves, and the people in their AAs. Second: Alliances are organic entities. They are not static, they change. Recognition of that fact in foreign affairs and public discourse has always been central to my political stances. For example, Vox Populi was a reactionary popular movement against the Continuum bloc's "hegemony" (I never really liked that word, but that's the parlance)—not because a hegemony existed, but because of how it acted: Viceroys, people banned from being gov, ZI transforming from a harsh punishment to PZI lists as eternal black lists that removed people from the game and then to EZI (parlance again, EZI is just PZI), forced disbandment, OOC attacks by the hegemony against their enemies, and so on. New Pacific Order and New Polar Order were central to that. It was a feedback loop: they did harsh crap by the endorsement of their allies, but their allies often did worse things while NPO/NpO pretended to be more civilized villains—they were all responsible for the results of their power politics, the results of their power politics were the point of their treaties. In 2007-08 New Polar Order wrecked my AA GOONS (which was a vile AA and I was too new to the game to really know it), then spent a year chasing all of us around, PZIing us, threatening alliances we joined, setting up proxy blocs on Black to dominate the Senate, and everything else in the history books. Post-Vox, as the leader of CoJ I penned blistering attacks on New Polar Order. Yet here I am, member of New Polar Order. Because I'm a hypocrite? No, because between the time Polaris PZIed me to the end of Karma, Polaris changed wildly. And then from the time I founded CoJ and wrote that essay to the time I allied CoJ to Polaris and then dissolved CoJ and joined Polaris, Polaris had undergone even more transformations. Therefore: Treaties and military cooperation are endorsement and culpability; therefore, alliances should choose allies whose actions align with their character and ideals, or accept the hypocrisy that their actions are at odds with their identity and move on. (Realpolitik is just that, the allegiance to a distasteful ally to get a hard job done.) But the prospective allies out their, alliances, are not beholden to the past. There is no inherent hypocrisy in allying an alliance that wasn't in line with one's ideals 5 years ago or even 5 weeks ago for that matter if they have changed. There is no hypocrisy in recognizing change. People make lazy ad hominem arguments, obsess about my over-the-top persona and ego, and simply label any shifting allegiance I make as "hypocrisy" or selling out. These processes are a complicated ideological discernment and judgement. Politics from ideology is complicated, people don't like it, they don't like to wade through it. What do I think about this treaty in particular? I haven't paid any attention at all to Planet Bob in at least a year. I've been quiet because I hate retractions; I don't post unless I know. It's fun to stick my head out and rip on OsRavan once a year, but it's also simply the case that the past is just about the only topic I'm informed to speak on intelligently. I don't know if this treaty is realpolitik, or if Non Grata has become significantly different to a degree that you're a perfect fit for Polaris. Or maybe Polaris has changed sufficiently that we're a perfect fit for an unchanged Non Grata (in which case I'll start AA shopping :P ) A dear old friend left Polaris because of this treaty, I respect his discernment and principled stance for his own nation. If there is a meeting of minds between NG and Polaris, I'm glad we're working together. If Polaris and NG are engaged in realpolitik, that's a reality an idealist like me has to swallow sometimes to get things done (I always was a chaos agent with a conscience, myself)—my problem would be if Polaris lent its NS to seriously bad behavior, or if Polaris shifted what should be a short-term cooperation (realpolitik) into a long term FA position (hypocrisy). I said "in short" so there you have it, Schattenmann is a liar.
Hi. LoSS still exists and never stopped existing. BIG BOLD FONT. Here's our fancy new charter for those who care. Our website has not changed. Our government has though. New government: #1: Phoebus #2: Junior Economics: Sam Winter Armory: Co God Ben Relations: Amossio *if I cared what SNX has to say after this post, I would not have used comic sans.