Cyber Nations Forum Rules 07/03/2016Cyber Nations Forum Rules
In the process of registering on this forum, all players--including you--agreed to accept these terms and conditions and the terms and conditions of Invision Power Board. In doing so you essentially signed an electronic contract pledging to have read the rules and TOS and agreeing to follow the rules and TOS as written. It is your continued responsibility to read, follow, and keep up-to-date with the CN rules.
The following are basic guidelines for use of the Cyber Nations community forum. Anyone caught disobeying these guidelines will be issued a warning. The forum staff works on a five warn limit policy unless the situation calls for more appropriate action ranging from a verbal warning to a double warn and suspension to an immediate ban, etc. Just because something is not listed specifically here as illegal does not mean it's allowed. All players are expected to use common sense and are personally responsible for reading the pinned threads found in the Moderation forum. Questions regarding appropriateness or other concerns can be sent via PM to an appropriate moderator. A permanent ban on the forums results in a game ban, and vice versa. Please note that the in-game warn system works on a "three strikes you're out" policy and that in-game actions (including warnings and deletions) may not be appealed. For more information regarding in-game rules please read the Cyber Nations Game Rules. 1.) First Warning
2.) Second Warning
3.) Third Warning (48 hour suspension at the forum)
4.) Fourth Warning (120 hour suspension at the forum)
5.) Permanent Ban Game Bans and Forum Bans
If you receive a 100% warn level on the forums, you will be subject to removal from the forums AND have your nation deleted and banned from the game at moderator(s) discretion. If you are banned in the game, then you will be banned from the forums. Process of Appeals
Players may not appeal any in-game actions. This includes cheat flags, canceled trades, content removals, warn level increases, nation deletion, and bans from the game. Players may appeal individual forum warnings. You may only appeal a warning if you can show with evidence that it was unwarranted or unduly harsh. If a reasonable amount of time has passed (no less than one month and preferably longer) in which you have demonstrated reformed behavior than you may request a warning level reduction. Wasting staff time with inappropriately filed reports and/or unfounded appeals will result in a warn level raise. Repeat incidences will result in a ban from the forum. Bans are permanent. Banned players may appeal to the Senior Staff if they believe grounds exist (very, very rare) in which they state their case with evidence and why explain why they believe they deserve to be allowed back into Cyber Nations. This process is not quick and the investigation into cases may last three minutes or three weeks or more depending on the individual situation. The only place where discussion of moderator action is acceptable is in the appropriate Moderation forum. Posting commentary on or disagreement with moderator action elsewhere will result in a warn level raise. Posting
All posts must be in English. Common phrases in other languages will be allowed so long as they are translated upon request. Foreign languages are permitted in signatures and avatars, however. Certain areas of the forum require you to have a nation in either standard CN or CN:TE. If you have... A SE and a TE nation: You get one forum account. Your forum account name must match your SE nation or ruler name. You are allowed to post in either SE or TE areas of the forum. You must have your CN:TE nation name listed in your profile to post in the CN:TE section of the forum.
Just an SE nation: You get one forum account. Your forum account name must match your SE nation or ruler name. You are not allowed to post in any TE areas of the forum.
Just a TE nation: You get one forum account. Your forum account name must match your TE nation name or ruler name. Your must have your CN:TE nation name listed correctly in your profile. You are not allowed to post in any of the SE areas. You are allowed to post in the water cooler, question center and the moderation forums. Other than that, all your posts need to stay in the TE area. Flame/Flamebait/Trolling
Flaming is expressing anger or lobbing insults at a person/player rather than a character, post, idea, etc. Flamebait are posts that are made with the aim of targeting/harassing/provoking another user into rule-breaking. Trolling is submitting posts with the aim of targeting/harassing/provoking a specific group into rule-breaking. Forum users should not be participating in any of these, and doing so will result in a warning. Topic Hijacking
Hijacking is forcing the current thread discussion off of the original topic and usually results in spam or flame from either side. Forum users found hijacking threads will be given a warning. Repeat Topics
One topic is enough. Repeat topics will be locked, removed, and the author given a warning. Users found creating repeat topics after others were locked by staff will receive a warn raise. Joke Topics
Topics created as a joke are prohibited. Joke topics will be locked and the author warned. This includes topics in which the author is making an announcement “for” another in-game alliance. Humorous threads are permitted; it is up to the discretion of the moderation staff to determine what is merely satire and what is actually a joke topic. Spam
Spam is defined as creating posts or topics containing only contentless material of any kind. Users found spamming will receive a warning. Examples include (but are in no way limited to) posts containing nothing but smilies, "+1", "QFT", "this" any other one/few-word contentless combination, joke threads, or posts containing quotes and anything that counts as spam by itself. Adding words to a post with the express intent of avoiding a spam warn will result in a warning. These posts and other similar contributions have no substance and hence are considered spam. Posts of "Ave", "Hail" or any other one word congratulatory type are acceptable as one word posts. Emoticon type posts such as "o/" without accompanying text is still not allowed. Posts containing only images are considered spam, unless the image is being used in the Alliance Politics sub-forum and then the actual text of the image be placed into spoiler tags. Posting in All Caps
Posting large amounts of text in capital letters is not permitted. Use discretion when using your caps lock key. No Discussion Forums
There are forums that are not for discussion and are used strictly for game and forum staff to address certain issues, bugs, etc. The following forums are not open to discussion: Report Game Abuse, Report Forum Abuse, and Warn/Ban Appeals. Only moderators and the original poster may post in a thread, period, with absolutely no exceptions. Users found disobeying this guideline will receive an automatic warning for each offense. Moderation Forums
All Moderation forums also maintain pinned threads clearly marked as required reading before posting. Failure to read and follow required reading and procedure in a Moderation forum will result in a warning. Examples include posting requests in the wrong forum, failure to include all required information in posts, etc. The standard of conduct and enforcement of rules in Moderation forums is strictly enforced and the repercussions for disregarding rules or disrespecting staff are harsh. Read the pinned threads before posting and you will be fine. Namecalling
Excessive or unqualified namecalling is not allowed in IC forums; namecalling should also never make up the bulk of a post. Namecalling is prohibited entirely in all OOC forums. Filtered Words
Any attempts to evade the word filter will result in a warning. The terms we have filtered are filtered for a reason and no excuse for evasion will be accepted. Filter evasion includes censoring or deliberately misspelling part of a filtered word. If you link to a website, image, video, etc., containing profanity, please post a disclaimer before the link. The moderation staff may still remove links if the content is deemed too obscene. Harassment
Forum users should not be stalking/harassing others on the forums. Anyone found stalking players from topic to topic, etc., will be subject to a warning. Gravedigging
Gravedigging is not allowed anywhere on the forums. Gravedigging is "bumping" old topics which haven't been active for quite some time (four to seven days is standard depending on the nature of the thread and how many pages back it had been pushed before bump). Your warn level will be raised if you are caught doing this. The Suggestion Box and Black Market forums are partial exceptions to this rule. Suggestions/ideas in that forum may be posted in regardless of age PROVIDING that the reviving post contains constructive, on-topic input to the original topic or discussion. Black Market threads may be bumped by the author if there is new information about the offered exchange (i.e open aid slots). In the Player Created Alliances forum it will not be considered gravedigging to bump a topic up to a year old, so long as the alliance in question still exists and it is not a duplicate thread. Signatures
Those who fail to read and abide by these rules will have their signatures removed and receive a warning. You may have only one image per signature which may not exceed the maximum size of 450 pixels wide by 150 pixels tall. You may have no more than 8 lines of text and text size cannot exceed size 4. Each quote-tag, image and empty line count as a line. Inappropriate Images and Other Disallowed Images
Images that are sexual in nature or have sexual overtones are prohibited. It is up to the discretion of the moderation staff to determine what constitutes sexual overtones. Depictions of kissing are permissible provided there are no sexual implications. Images depicting female nipples are prohibited outright. Making “ASCII art” is prohibited regardless of the image depicted. Using photos or likenesses of another Cyber Nations player is also prohibited. Drug References
Images and posts promoting illegal drug use are prohibited. References to drugs are acceptable only if the moderation staff deems that it is not promoting the use thereof. Obscene Content and/or "Account Suicide"
Anyone caught posting vulgar material (including but in no way limited to pornography, "gross," "tubgirl," "lemonparty," photos depicting RL illegal acts such as violence towards humans or animals, child pornography, death photos, and any other obscene or offensive material in either text form or picture form) will have their account(s) permanently banned, and their ISP contacted along with any other applicable internet and RL authorities. OOC Threats / Revealing Personal Information
An OOC threat of any nature will equate to an automatic ban from the game and forums. Likewise, the publishing of personal information of any other player without their explicit permission is grounds for warning and/or a ban from the game depending on the severity of the offense. Death Threats / Death Wishes
A death threat or a death wish of any nature (including but not limited to telling another player to commit suicide) will result in at very least a 40% warn level increase and 2 day suspension from the forums, with harsher punishments, including a complete ban from the forums and game, up to the discretion of the moderation staff. Quoting Rulebreaking Posts
Do not quote any post with obscene content or any other content that has to be removed by the moderation staff. Doing so makes it more difficult for the moderation staff to find and remove all such content and will result in a warn level increase. Putting rulebreaking posts of any kind in your signature is prohibited. Forum Names
With the exception of moderator accounts, all forum accounts must match up exactly with the ruler name or nation name of your in-game country. Those found not matching up will be warned and banned immediately. Forum account names may not be profane or offensive. Multiple Forum Accounts
With the exception of moderators, if you are caught with multiple forum accounts, the multiple account(s) will be banned, warn level raised, and your identity will be announced by a moderator to the CN community so rule-abiding players can take IC action against you. Multiple forum account offenders will receive a varying percentage warn level raise and/or a permanent ban on a case-by-case basis. Posting For Other Players
Posting for banned or suspended players is prohibited, as is posting for any person without a nation. This includes making warn and ban appeals on their behalf. Imitation &. Impersonation
Imitation in terms of this forum is mimicking the posting, avatar, or signature styles of another user in an attempt to be satirical or generally humorous. Impersonation in terms of this forum is copying the posting, avatar, or signature styles of another user in order to present the illusion that the person is in fact that user. Imitation is fine and can be quite funny. Impersonation is disruptive and is warnable. Please pay attention to the subtle difference between these two concepts. A player may not impersonate another player by emulating the characteristics of someone else's past or present account in an attempt to harass, stalk, or flamebait. Creating a new forum account in an attempt to impersonate a standing account will result in deletion and banning without notice. Any attempt at imitation and/or impersonation of moderators and game staff is strictly prohibited and will be met with harsh repercussions. Avatars
Size for avatars is limited by the forum mechanics, therefore there is no size issue for a user to worry about. Avatars must be in good taste, and any avatar containing a picture that is too violent, disgusting, sexually explicit, insulting to another player or staff member, etc. will be removed. Avatars that are potentially seizure inducing will not be permitted. Players may not "borrow" the avatars of any moderator past or present without permission. Swastikas and Nazi Imagery
The swastika may not be used in signatures or avatars. Pictures of swastika's are acceptable for use in the In Character (IC) sections of the roleplay forums, so long as its context is In Character, and not Out Of Character. Pictures of Hitler, mentioning of the Holocaust, etc... have no place in the roleplay forums, since these people and events existed in real life, and have no bearing or place in the Cyberverse. Other Nazi or SS imagery is forbidden in all forums. Moderation Staff
The revealing of the private identities of any Cyber Nations staffers past or present is strictly prohibited, and thus no speculation/accusation of identity is allowed. Doing so is grounds for moderator action against your account appropriate to the offense, including a full forum/game ban. Claims of moderator bias should be directed to the highest level of authority--the Head Game & Forum Mod/Admin, Keelah. Claims of moderator bias without supporting evidence is grounds for a warning. Blatant disrespect of the moderator staff is strictly prohibited. This includes but is not limited to spoofing moderator accounts in any way, sig/avatar references, baiting, flaming, rude demands, mocking, attitude, and unsubstantiated claims of bias. They are volunteers hired to enforce the rules. If you have a problem with the way a moderator is enforcing the rules or the rules themselves please contact Keelah. Attempting to use the moderation staff as a weapon by abusing the report system in an attempt to get another player warned or banned is strictly prohibited. Do not ask about becoming or campaign to become a moderator. The moderators are drawn from CN membership but moderation positions are by invitation only. Asking to become one will substantially decrease your chances of ever being asked. Aiding Rule Violators
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Hereno posted a topic in Open National RPhttp://forums.cybernations.net/index.php?/topic/123750-multiple-nations/ His "accident" was reporting himself for multis. He's made Admin and the entire CN mod team look like a bunch of toothless, incompetent idiots, but I'd prefer to not let him keep rolling in and out and grabbing up map space (and spamming all of our threads) given we can't even let him in the IRC channel. http://forums.cybernations.net/index.php?/topic/123420-rotavele-multi/ <-- There's another thread where I reported one of Rota's multis. Rotavele, Yonsae, Beauty, and all of his inevitable multis and reroll accounts that are obviously him will all be forbidden from having a CNRP2 nation. And yes, I'm aware that he will absolutely love having an entire thread about him, but the rules are the rules and we will follow them. So you can consider that as a goodbye present. /discuss
This is my idea for what's better than the 2 week/7 posts rule we have now. You must make 3 posts for each region, and cannot make a second post until 72 hours has passed from the first. Thereafter, you have 2 more posts to make in at least 4 days of time. After a week, the land is yours on the map, unless it has been contested. This counts for protectorates and for annexations; although protectorates will never be on the map, they cannot be completely controlled without the same series of posts. All rules not in conflict would continue to be enforced, including having to number them (and post them in the map thread, if you're annexing).
Il Unione Repubblicano di Milano Milan The Information Bureau of Milan is the place to go for information about Milan. Facts, figures, news reports. Demographics: Location: Red-Orange = Milan Blue = Territories being integrated Purple = Neapolitan Protectorate [spoiler][/spoiler] Capital: Milano (Milan) Official Language: Italian Recognized Minority Languages: Milanese Population: TBA Religion: Roman Catholic (82%), None (14%), Islam (1%), Aidennism (1%), Judaism (1%), Other (1%) Economic Overview: Currency: the Florin GDP (National, PPP): Unknown GDP (Per Capita, PPP): $47,386 Annual Economic Growth Rate: 2% Unemployment Rate: 3.8% Government Overview: Type: Republican Dictatorship Doge: Hereno d'Bologne Term Length: 5 years, no limit Doge's Council: Councilor of Domestic Affairs - Ignazio Greco Councilor of Foreign Affairs - Luigino Zangari Councilor of State Security - Oriana Acciai, General of the Army Senate: 600 Members Speaker of the Senate: TBA Composition of the Senate: [spoiler] Golden Roman Party (30 seats) - The Golden Romans are an Italian national populist party. They seek the reinstatement of Roma as the capital of the Italian state, which they wish to rename as Italy once again. They believe that Milan, as the chief successor state of the Italian Republic, carries the legacy of Rome itself on its shoulders, and is thereby obligated to ensure the unification of the Italian lands. There are two factions within the party; one of which champions republicanism, while the other wishes to restore the Kingdom of old. The republican faction is generally the milder of the two, and is definitely the largest. Milan First Party (132 seats) - The Milan First Party is a party that draws most of its support from the north of the country, and has been formed as a patriotic reaction to the Golden Roman adoption of pan-Italian nationalism. It champions individual rights and decentralized government, which includes a more laissez-faire attitude than the Golden Romans. They see the rest of Italy as a burden and think that the Milanese people were served well by the fall of the old Republic and its replacement with a smaller, more efficient & localized Milanese Republic. Libertarian Democratic Party (204 seats) - The Libertarian Democrats are a large, centrist party which champions the cause of social democracy. They agree with the pan-peninsular attitude of the Golden Romans, but also agree with the laissez-faire capitalism of the Milan First Party. They are patriotic to a degree, but less so than either of the aforementioned parties, and tend to draw younger voters in as well. Green Italy Party (66 seats) - The Green Italy Party are perhaps the most cosmopolitan of the political parties of Milan, and also the fastest growing. They embrace globalism as a natural extension of their environmentalist concerns, and are often at odds with their anthropocentric rivals over lucrative-but-harmful development projects. They are considered by many to be a moderate-left bridge between the centrist LDP and the socialists of the ISP. Italian Socialist Party (168 seats) - The Italian Socialist Party is the unified successor of the Italian Communist Party of old, which historically did very well in almost all of the provinces of the Milanese state. Unchecked by having lost the much more conservative south, they've seen a massive rise in electoral success on the national level. With Party leadership well aware of the reasons for their climb, they are against the reunification of Italy and have brokered a timid relationship across the aisle with the Milan First Party, who has also scored big gains at the national level.[/spoiler] Recent Policies: Declaration of the Union Resignation from the European Community MDP/NAP w/Alvonia Reconfiguration of the Vatican and the Army of Milan Neapolitan Protectorate Embassies/Diplomatic Events: Muscovy Yugoslavia Japan Southern Italy dispute Druk Yul Military Overview: Italiano Esercito Repubblicano Active Soldiers: 220,000 Reserve Soldiers: 100,000 Carabinieri: 80,000 Republican Guard: 50,000 (General: Doge Hereno d'Bologne) Total Soldiers: 450,000 Standard-Issue Rifle: Beretta ARX-160 modular assault rifle Ammunition: STANAG Range: 600m Notes: Many are fitted with a 40 mm grenade launcher attachment Side Arm: Beretta 92FS 9 x 19 mm pistol Other small arms Radar units, etc. Main Battle Tank: Ariete main battle tank (Quantity: TBA) Other vehicles: B1 Centauro tank destroyer (Quantity: TBA) Dardo IFV (Quantity: TBA) Freccia IFV (Quantity: TBA) M113 APC (Quantity: TBA) Other APCs, IFVs, ARVs, and MRAPs Panzerhaubitze 2000 155mm self-propelled howitzer (Quantity: TBA) M270 MLRS (Quantity: TBA) SIDAM 25 self-propelled anti-aircraft gun (Quantity: TBA) Various utility vehicles Helicopters Nuclear weapons: Developed Biological weapons: None Chemical weapons: VX (Top Secret) Marina Militare 6 destroyers 4 corvettes 3 submarines 2 landing ships 2 battleships 2 frigates 1 cruiser 1 aircraft carrier Aeronautica Militare 768 planes, including... Eurofighter Typhoon AMX-type planes OOC: [spoiler] Statistics are based off of these screenshots of my nation, circa 7 June 2014: http://i.imgur.com/F1FbBvo.png http://i.imgur.com/W2vflkF.png Original Stats: Soldiers: 690,000 Naval Points to Spend: 3825 Aircraft Limit: 480 planes After soldier substitutions: (these are what I'm using) Soldiers: 450,000 (-240,000) Aircraft Limit: 768 (+228 or 24 squadrons) [/spoiler]
Il Unione Repubblicano di Milano Peoples of the world! Fear not, as the Italian Republic has not fallen, but been renewed with vigor. In the city of Milan, the provinces and communities of Lombardia, Piemonte, Liguria, Valle d'Aosta, Emilia Romagna, Toscana, Sardegna, Umbria, Marche, and Lazio have agreed to remain unified and press forward into the future. I, Doge Hereno d'Bologna of Milan, hereby issue a personal request to all nations of Europe to refrain from meddling in the affairs of the Italian people during these trying times. We do not intend to allow a minority of separatists to destroy Italian unity, and warn opportunists looking to capitalize on the political situation in our country that order is being rapidly restored thanks to our efforts. Areas currently under our control in red-orange, with claims of the [former] Italian Republic in white:
☭ The Democratic People's Republic of Guanwai ☭ From the ashes of the evil Chinese Empire, the light of Socialism has been lit once again in East Asia. Guided by the ideology of Mao Zedong, Mao Zedong Thought, the people of Guanwai have thrown off the shackles of capitalism and declared a magnificent Democratic People's Republic. May a thousand flowers bloom! * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * Factbook Demographics: Location: http://s2.postimg.org/3poxaruhl/manchuria.png Capital: Mukden (Shenyang) Official Language: Mandarin Chinese Recognized Minority Languages: Russian, Mongolian Population: 78,022,901 Religion: Non-Religious (76%), Daoist (12%), Buddhist (9%), Christianity (2%), Other (1%) Economic Overview: Currency: None GDP (National, PPP): Unknown GDP (Per Capita, PPP): Unknown Annual Economic Growth Rate: Unknown Unemployment Rate: 1.7% Government Overview: Type: Democratic People's Republic Premier (总理): 总理张 (Zongli Zhang) Term Length: One year, subject to recall by the politburo Politburo: Unknown number of members Recent Policies: Great Proletarian Cultural Revolution Foreign Relations: Protection of northern Sakhalin island NAP/Border demilitarization with Japan Protection of Greater Russian remnants and annexation of Buryatia Military Overview: People's Revolutionary Army Active Soldiers: 200,000 Red Guards: 490,000 Total Soldiers: 690,000 Standard-Issue Rifle: 95式自动步枪 (Type 95 Automatic Rifle) Ammunition: 弹步枪普通 (5.8×42mm / DBP87) Range: 400m point target, 600m area target Nuclear weapons: Developed Biological weapons: Unknown Chemical weapons: None People's Revolutionary Navy 6 destroyers 4 corvettes 3 submarines 2 landing ships 2 battleships 2 frigates 1 cruiser 1 aircraft carrier People's Revolutionary Air Force 480 planes; specifics TBA OOC: [spoiler] Statistics are based off of these screenshots of my nation, circa 7 June 2014: http://i.imgur.com/F1FbBvo.png http://i.imgur.com/W2vflkF.png Naval Points to Spend: 3825 Aircraft Limit: 480 planes [/spoiler]
[center] [img]http://i.imgur.com/x6hIl.png[/img] [img]http://i.imgur.com/irxkg.png[/img] [/center] According to Kaskus government, having an average NS of about 12k is nowhere near defeated, and they have no intentions of surrendering (or admitting defeat) while they are in such clear fighting shape. Because the NSO and NPO obviously need our help before they are forced to beg the mighty Kaskus for mercy, [b]Shangri-La hereby recognizes a state of war with Kaskus (pursuant to our MDoAP with the New Sith Order)[/b] until [s]we are all driven from our homes in fear, while our countrysides are raped and our women are pillaged[/s] they stop wasting everyone's time and agree to surrender terms with NSO like a normal alliance. [spoiler][center][img]http://i.imgur.com/OLIf4O0.png[/img][/center][/spoiler]