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  1. LINK TO TECH DEAL CENTRAL? Tech dealers large and small - good news. I just saved 15% on my car insurance by switching to Geico! Also, and more importantly, the tech deal forum is back up and running smoothly. From July of 2007 until a few months ago, we sold over 150,000 tech to nations from basically every alliance in Cybernations - at least 200. We have over 1,100 registered tech dealers on our forums and more signing up each day. I took a break from Cybernations recently, and although business slowed down, Col John S Mosby took charge and ran the forum superbly. Now I'm back, and Mosby and I are rolling again - with the help of our other moderators. The recent war did lead to a paucity of dealers, but as everyone rebuilds, we expect business to boom. Large nations need tech and need it fast. Small nations want an easy profit. Why deal on the black market? Here you have no accountability, no administrators, no one to make sure your deal runs smoothly and quickly. Here you have to set up your own deals, you may get ripped off, and you may be dealing with nations you can't trust. There IS a better way! We have 1x1's; $3m/100 tech deals that use up 1 aid slot for 30 days. Simply post your nation link HERE and we'll match you up with a nation immediately. We have 2x2's; $2m/50 tech deals that use up 2 aid slots for 10 days. Again, post HERE to sign up. We have 3x3's; $3m/100 tech deals that use up 3 aid slots for 10 days. These are our most popular deal! Post HERE to sign up. Don't wait - let us do the work for you. Instead of trying to work out deals here on the black market, simply post your nation link in one of the topics above and let us handle the logistics. We'll sort out your deal, provide diagrams and links to the other nations in your deal, and ensure that every participant completes the deal quickly. We in-game message you when your deal is set to begin. In the long-term 1x1 deal section, we message small nations a reminder the day before they are due to send technology. Hope to see you there! Winstonopia ----Here are some recommendations: - Thomas Scott - CuBone - Taget - Erik -Russell07 - Grillick - Dtigner
  2. and where are people buying tech most of the time? thru their alliance? on the black market?
  3. So I used to buy/sell tech... a lot of it... either through my alliance at the time, or at my independent tech forums. We bought and sold hundreds of thousands of tech, and I'd like to think I was pretty successful at handling the logistics and making sure each of the deals was processed quickly and smoothly. Lots of you CN vets will remember buying or selling tech at my forums months (or years?) ago. I basically left CN (and the damn politics I was so frustrated with) in July of last year, but I'm back (part-time) this summer. I don't want to get too involved again, nor do I want anything to do with the current war or any of the politics. I honestly don't care that much lol. So, anyway, after this war is over, I would like to at least entertain the possibility of dealing some tech once again, just for fun. This might just be a thing I do for Greenland Republic, but I'd at least like to hear thoughts on taking the system outside of my alliance. Now, things have changed since last July. I'd appreciate if you all could explain HOW exactly tech dealing has changed. Do most people do tech deals within their alliance? Or with some inter-alliance trading system (if so, where)? Or do people just post here on the black market and figure it out? With people on their color? Independently? Would anyone be interested if something were to be set up similar to what I used to have? (For those who don't know, we used to have a forum where you'd come from ANY alliance, post your info, and we'd set you up with buyers/sellers and PM you reminders and everything and the deals went quickly - you'd deal with people from other alliances, and could do either immediate 3x3's or long-terms) If something were to be set up, what sort of deals and prices are people looking for (the poll above should help answer that)? Or is a inter-alliance tech-dealing service not possible anymore in CN? I really haven't been on here once in 9 months - my nation died and everything. Thanks for the help
  4. We're not an alliance of tech dealers, actually. Tech Deal Central is simply a forum - a marketplace - a site where nations from any alliance can come in and participate in deals. Every participant is already part of an alliance, like you're in Legion. But instead of dealing tech just with other alliance members, TDC allows you to do deals with nations in other alliances as well. You don't need to be "a member", and we are not an alliance of our own. We're a place where people who are already in other alliances can come and deal tech.
  5. you can do your sleds and aid chains inside an alliance. but when you're dealing in between different alliances, that isn't possible. alliance nations are always willing to help out their own small nations, but less willing to do so for small nations in other alliances.
  6. Sleds are intra-alliance chains... as an inter-alliance tech forum, we don't really have that option...
  7. Well I never did one tech deal as a small nation, and I turned out fine, so personal experience ain't quite the way to prove it. 3x3's were great when we had an even balance of large and small nations, but as the game grows and technology is in higher demand, we had too many large nations trying to buy tech. Ever since we've switched to 2x2's, small nations are making more money ande profitting more from the deals, while large nations are acquiring their tech faster because they do not have to wait in line. It's win-win!
  8. nope, 3x3's are things of the past. and for a nation that's 80 days old, you know an awful lot about the past, don't you?... you'll see. and yes, assassin, you're right hehe - i'm looking forward to it!
  9. my stance on the current war - privately, I have my personal views and those will be kept privately, but in terms of tech deals: #1 - nooo! stop!!! all of you!!!! all the tech that I've sold to alliances on both sides is being destroyed!! aaah! #2 - ooh... this is good. we're going to have a better large nation : small nation ratio now! but yeah, as i'm sure you can imagine, we're going to have to stop tech deals for now. period. until this is all over and done with. see what you quarreling kids have done? win
  10. I have no problem with the Gramlins' system, no doubt. And yes, our system uses up more aid slots. CN is a game where... welll... to each his own. I play the game to help not only myself but other nations as well - I don't just look out for myself, but like boosting others up as I do, even at the cost of "efficiency" in my own nation. In the long run, I don't think it makes that much of a difference. Regular activity, consistency, improvement swapping - that seems more important. Regardless, I couldn't do $3m/100 tech deals even if I wanted to. Soon you (Gramlins) will find that you can't either, and you'll be stuck paying more (and using more slots) to get tech. As I've explained, with the rising demand for tech, this is just a natural progression. Even if you find it crazy, you're going to be paying more, no matter how many expletives you use . It's not something I like (as a large nation) or something that you guys like, but it just... is.
  11. Yes, small nations do become big nations. Although we can't find a balance of large nations and small nations in the game of CN, we can find a balance of large nations and small nations applying for tech deals. Before we had too many large nations applying and not enough small ones. By raising the price of tech, less large nations apply and more small nations apply, thereby giving us a balance of applicants, which is what we're looking for. As for the future, yes, you're correct. If the game rules do not change, in a few months even this $2mill/50tech price will be considered cheap, and the price will rise to $3m/50. We have not reached that point, though, and are not even close to it. It is completely necessary to be flexible and adjust to the changing times.
  12. Exactly thank you learz, thank you dudluv, thank you choader!
  13. precisely. still, though, i am baffled as to why grant and i seem to not understand each other and will keep on trying until we do! I don't care how many buyers there are, or how many sellers. All I want is a balance between the two. I don't want to "shut people out" of buying tech, but what's the use of having 200 buyers and 20 sellers? No good. 200 sellers and 20 buyers? No good either. 100 sellers and 100 buyers? Yes. So what we have to do is continually adjust our prices until we get an even mix of buyers and sellers. Raise prices and you get more sellers. Lower prices and you get more buyers. Simple math Let me explain again. Let's say there are 30,000 nations in CN today. Of these 30,000, let's say 10,000 could be classified as small nations (SN's), and the other 20,000 as large nations (LN's). Let us say 100 new nations join each day. These 100 new nations become small nations, correct? Also, as small nations advance in the game and grow, they become large nations, right? So on day 0, we have 30k nations; 20k are LN, 10k are SN. Now, after 1 day, we have 100 new SN's (that have joined the game), but there are also 100 less SN's, because 100 nations have grown from SN to LN. So after day 1, we have 20,100 LN's and still 10,000 SN's. Next day? 20,200 LN's, 10,000 SN's. Eight days later? 21,000 LN's, 10,000 SN's. Twenty days after that? 23,000 LN's, 10,000 SN's. Do you see how the demand (LN's) is increasing while the supply (SN's) remains constant? As theone said, this is a business. It has nothing to do with "me" or "my people" - for the tenth time,I make no profit or any sort of benefit from tech deals. The price increase has nothing to do with me! There is not "plenty of supply", as I proved above. How can you claim that fact "regardless of the numbers"? The numbers prove[/i my point! Well, tech costs me about $4,000,000 per 10 tech. So until we get to the point where we're selling 50 tech for twenty million dollars, tech deals are still worth it for me. And no, that isn't going to happen. I'm making my point, and it's strong already. Nowhere in this did I mock you, although it would have been quite easy to do so!
  14. Um.. yeah? Generally, if anything is at a lower price, more people can afford it and will want it. With that same product at a higher price, less nations can afford it and want it. If you are trying to create a balance, acheive equilibrium, that's what you need to do. Higher prices = less buyers = balance. It makes sense. I fail to see how I benefit from raising prices, lowering prices, or anything. I don't benefit from anything having to do with this forum. I put my time and effort in and get absolutely nothing out of it. Zero. No tech, no cash, nothing except a few smilies and a few "thank you's" from happy customers. There is nothing in this for me. I don't benefit. I prefer having a balance of large nations and small nations so I can better serve the people who sign up for tech deals. If applicants are made to wait a week before getting in a deal, I'm not doing a very good job. By raising prices, I ensure that wait times drop and deals go more smoothly. I don't benefit - the tech deal participants do. I make no money from these deals. I simply do the logistics, handle the organization, and make sure everyone is happy. I get nothing out of it. Is it just me, or am I beginning to repeat myself? :lol:
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