Stargazer Alchemist

Yea, we rock.

You are all doomed... I mean, best of luck and congrats!

I would to see Vlad or Waterana speak up on this. With no offense to the friends I have over at Paficica, there is one fact that everyone has to get through their head, now. War. Isin't. Fair. Peace and surrender are controlled by the winners of the war. Pacifica has to reason or right to complain, at least not with their history of surrender terms. You would rather let their alliance crumble then surrender, which good and all. But pride is the one thing Pacifica has never been short of, but it's also your greatest downfall. Btw; Karma is now targeting that, and for all we know, you guys have hidden banks amongst None AA on Red Sphere. What better way to stay rebuilt then to have banks no one knows about, not even your own members? You say that we are all afraid of Pacifica rising up again, but I think it is Pacifica that is afraid. They have finally met their match, know they are dammed if they do and dammed if they don't. They have been put into a situation that has never been experienced before and it terrifies them.

What kind of alliance doesn't even trust their own members? Pride comes before the fall.

Indeed. It seems as though most post from NPO members seem to dig the hole deeper and deeper.

So you guys can disband alliances and impose all these restrictions on those who you defeat, but likewise isn't acceptable? You can dish out the punishment, but when the shoe is on the other foot, the Propaganda and Pity Machine goes into overdrive. As I said a few pages back; Personally, I believe after all the hell Pacifica has caused other alliances, you guys deserve whatever is coming to you.

Anyone ever notice that when the little man is being oppressed and treated harshly, no one seems to care but when the Oppressors become the Oppressed it's the greatest tragedy in the world? My personal favorite: "We have been told that until every member with GOLD in their AA is changed to NPO POW, The war will not be over."

Conveniently missed that post did you Vlad? And yes, I'm aware your claim is regarding 9 alliances, yet this link only provides 1. My points is, NPO has history of forcing disbandment in the past.

I'm sure you have the money.

Exactly. NPO surrender terms have not been forgiving towards those who lose the war, so why should the terms handed to you be given such a courtesy?

re-posted below

"In general, pride is at the bottom of all great mistakes." - John Ruskin Vlad, you'd rather see Pacifica be destroyed then admitting defeat. It's noble, but in the grand scheme of things a futile gesture.

Wow... just... wow

Star Trek wins, end of discussion. Gah... this is actually the SECOND Star Trek alliance that came around using UFP. I know, I posted in that topic too. http://forums.cybernations.net/index.php?s...c=17643&hl=

This is a great day for all parties involved. Congrats to Genesis/MK and the n00b of n00bs, AirMe!